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PsycheGal Posted - Apr 13 2012 : 07:24:39 PM
One of my sugar gliders literally ripped off his tail today in his wheel :(
We stopped the bleeding immediately and rushed to the vet. The only thing they did was put a liquid bandaid type thing on the nub of his tailbone and covered the actual protruding bone (which is about 1/2 inch long) with the same stuff. The vet said that the excess bone would dry and most likely fall off on its own, and would not require surgery - however, I keep reading that everyone else with these injuries says it has to be amputated.
Zan seems to be totally fine. He can run, jump, and has no balance issues. He ate like a pig as soon as we got home and drank lots of water and if not for the fact that he has no tail and has this bone hanging you wouldn't even notice anything was wrong (behaviorally).
He is sleeping comfortably with his brother, his breathing is totally normal. I was told to treat his tail with neosporin to prevent infection at the wound site and pretty much just watch for breathing changes and signs of infection.
Any advice?
Some personality things about my gliders:
They are very docile and do not bite, scratch, or otherwise injure each-other or themselves. They have never practiced any sort of self mutilation. They are very well fed and cared for.
I will be changing their pouches daily to make sure there is no debris that can possibly infect the wound and will be handfeeding Zan until he is better just to make sure he is getting enough food/water and so on. I am just totally freaking out. My daughters are in tears. We know he looks fine but we are so worried that he might be in pain :(
Any advice would be helpful. Thank you!
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Omis n Kais g-ma Posted - Oct 08 2012 : 07:33:21 PM
good to hear he is doing so great. Thanks for the update |
PsycheGal Posted - Oct 08 2012 : 07:03:47 PM
Hi everyone!!!
I just want to say THANK YOU for all of your help that horrible week where my poor Zan ripped off his tail on the stupid wheel.
I would like to report that Zan is doing FANTASTIC. He recovered very well and everything healed fast. He didn't even have a noticeable fever. He now simply has a furry nub where his tail used to be. He does not seem to have any balance issues or gliding issues and happily plays, climbs and jumps as usual. He is actually playing right now and doing little flips all over the place :)
So sorry I disappeared, my motherboard fried and I only recently got a new one so I am finally up and running again.
Oh and I did have my baby girl :)~ She is adorable and loves watching Zan and Dargo play at night. 
Hope everyone is well and really, thank you all again!!! |
PatCC Posted - Aug 17 2012 : 09:25:35 PM
I just rmoved all three wodent wheels from my cages. I had no idea they would be injured by them. I will replace them with stealth wheels but no more wodent wheels. I won't take a chance that my gliders will be injured. Thank you for the heads up. |
Omis n Kais g-ma Posted - Aug 17 2012 : 02:31:57 PM
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Originally posted by kyro298
I don't care if they pick on me. What I'm asking is completely legitimate. The girl who said her glider's hand was caught and they had to be cut out of the wheel also said that her friend also had a wheel that was the same kind without a "string" in the middle. Either one of them or both are not Wodent Wheels. They aren't made differently. This is the kind of thing that makes me ask "are you sure it was a Wodent Wheel?".
I just don't get what okusandman is trying to prove I'm wrong about when I'm not stating anything. I'm asking if everyone is positive about the type of wheel causing injuries. If they are GREAT! Let's get some documented proof and help get them modified or off the market! But hey, that's just me...
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kyro298 Posted - Aug 17 2012 : 01:41:33 PM
I don't care if they pick on me. What I'm asking is completely legitimate. The girl who said her glider's hand was caught and they had to be cut out of the wheel also said that her friend also had a wheel that was the same kind without a "string" in the middle. Either one of them or both are not Wodent Wheels. They aren't made differently. This is the kind of thing that makes me ask "are you sure it was a Wodent Wheel?".
I just don't get what okusandman is trying to prove I'm wrong about when I'm not stating anything. I'm asking if everyone is positive about the type of wheel causing injuries. If they are GREAT! Let's get some documented proof and help get them modified or off the market! But hey, that's just me... |
SuggieSpoiler Posted - Aug 17 2012 : 11:01:46 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Omis n Kais g-ma
My question id this. How many tails have been amputated since the crossbar cover was implemented? Are they all friends of yours as well?
And another thing, picking on a senior member such as Kyro saying she can't afford a new wheel will get you nothing but in trouble.
Agreed! |
Omis n Kais g-ma Posted - Aug 17 2012 : 10:05:10 AM
My question id this. How many tails have been amputated since the crossbar cover was implemented? Are they all friends of yours as well?
And another thing, picking on a senior member such as Kyro saying she can't afford a new wheel will get you nothing but in trouble. |
kyro298 Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 09:33:01 PM
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Originally posted by okusandman
What are you talking about? I gave the two of you "unless the tail is hanging from the crossbar" types two perfect examples.
When the animal is STILL stuck in the wheel, or the amputated tail is later found in the wheel, I think it's safe to come to the conclusion that it is 100% certain that the wheel caused the problem - by your own definition.
But like I said, GO LOOK. There's plenty out there you just must not want see it. If you can't afford to upgrade that's one thing, but pretending there isn't a problem is ridiculous.
A. Your examples aren't considered proof to someone like a manufacturer of an item. ANY ITEM. The proof isn't for my peace of mind. It's for the safety of others...but you can't seem to grasp that concept. You AGAIN saying I'm pretending there isn't a problem is what's ridiculous. Show me ONE place I said these things didn't happen? ONE PLACE. I will publicly apologize...except, I won't have to BECAUSE I DIDN'T.
B. If I can't afford to upgrade? That's cute. Pretty sure anyone on here that knows me would know that's pretty funny too. Just to appease you one last time, I will say for the THIRD time. I have other wheels! More expensive ones, even! *gasp*
C. You can't seem to read and I can't seem to even afford to keep up with you. Let's make a mutual agreement to not reply to each other anymore. Problem solved. |
okusandman Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 09:16:27 PM
What are you talking about? I gave the two of you "unless the tail is hanging from the crossbar" types two perfect examples.
When the animal is STILL stuck in the wheel, or the amputated tail is later found in the wheel, I think it's safe to come to the conclusion that it is 100% certain that the wheel caused the problem - by your own definition.
But like I said, GO LOOK. There's plenty out there you just must not want see it. If you can't afford to upgrade that's one thing, but pretending there isn't a problem is ridiculous. |
kyro298 Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 08:48:47 PM
Just because they're on GC means my questions aren't valid? My questions haven't changed. Just in case you didn't see, let me copy and paste for you from above:
quote:
Like I said in the other thread, I am NOT saying the Wodent Wheel wasn't the cause. I'm just wanting to know if everyone is 100% sure it is and if anyone has documentation of any kind?
No need to get defensive. I think these are reasonable questions, as they would be for any device causing harm
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okusandman Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 08:25:01 PM
From glidercentral - which if you look has lots of these:
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My best friend of 17+ years, had her glider get her tail caught around the cotter pin, and her tail broke and had to be amputated. The glider was found still caught in the wheel.
Another close friend, we were on the phone when she found her glider. The wheel literally ripped off her tail, and left a stub. They found the rest of the tail in the wheel later.
Just a few months ago, I fostered a male who had his tail broken because of a Wodent wheel, and it had to be amputated twice (granted, the second time was because the first surgery went badly- which was why I had him). Three of the four gliders in that cage lost at least part of a tail. Since she trashed the Wodent and got a better wheel, they've had zero problems.
And I've heard dozens of other horror stories. Those are just the injuries I've heard of from my "real life" friends. I was lucky- I saw the potential problem with my own, pulled them out and ordered Stealths that same day. I had a breeding trio at the time; I heard crabbing, looked in the cage, and saw my 4 week old joey hanging on for dear life to the cross bar while Mom raced in the wheel. I was able to stop the wheel before the baby fell, and they never got it back.
There is absolutely nothing they can change on the Wodents that would convince me they're a good wheel for gliders. Better to spend an extra $20 on a wheel, than hundreds in vet bills. An ounce of prevention and all that jazz.
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Omis n Kais g-ma Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 06:07:36 PM
Kylah, I'm on your side here. Unless the tail is hanging from the crossbar, we can't rightly say it is the wheel. There is just no proof. So people will speculate. My Gypsy has had her wheel for about 2 years I'm guessing. She used to run in it constantly but barely fits now. quote:
Originally posted by kyro298
I'd also like to know how it's cutting off appendages. It would be great if anyone could document some of this, especially with photos. Are the vets confirming this was an injury caused by the wheels as well? It's just strange that all of a sudden, people are having injuries with Wodent Wheels in large numbers. I've had 3 Wodents, a Stealth and a Raptor wheel in with mine for years. (Well, the Raptor is newer than a few years) It seems like only lately we're seeing lots of people suddenly saying there are these major injuries from a wheel that was once considered glider safe.
I'm wondering if people are assuming that's what causing the issue since they can't find anything else that did it? Is anyone actually seeing it happen? Does anyone have photos of the injuries that could be reported to the manufacturer? Has anyone gone after the manufacturer for vet bills?
Like I said in the other thread, I am NOT saying the Wodent Wheel wasn't the cause. I'm just wanting to know if everyone is 100% sure it is and if anyone has documentation of any kind?
No need to get defensive. I think these are reasonable questions, as they would be for any device causing harm.
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kyro298 Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 12:42:46 PM
I'd also like to know how it's cutting off appendages. It would be great if anyone could document some of this, especially with photos. Are the vets confirming this was an injury caused by the wheels as well? It's just strange that all of a sudden, people are having injuries with Wodent Wheels in large numbers. I've had 3 Wodents, a Stealth and a Raptor wheel in with mine for years. (Well, the Raptor is newer than a few years) It seems like only lately we're seeing lots of people suddenly saying there are these major injuries from a wheel that was once considered glider safe.
I'm wondering if people are assuming that's what causing the issue since they can't find anything else that did it? Is anyone actually seeing it happen? Does anyone have photos of the injuries that could be reported to the manufacturer? Has anyone gone after the manufacturer for vet bills?
Like I said in the other thread, I am NOT saying the Wodent Wheel wasn't the cause. I'm just wanting to know if everyone is 100% sure it is and if anyone has documentation of any kind?
No need to get defensive. I think these are reasonable questions, as they would be for any device causing harm. |
okusandman Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 11:49:34 AM
I don't think you can fix it. There was a guard available but more injuries occurred with the guards in place. |
SuggieSpoiler Posted - Aug 16 2012 : 11:05:13 AM
I have two questions,
How would it cut off tails, hands, etc?
And with this wheel how can you fix it to where it doesn't cut off or break anything?
Thanks! :) |
okusandman Posted - Aug 15 2012 : 09:58:43 PM
Here's a thread - only 2 gliders in the cage. Another person had to take her glider to the vet to have the Wodent Wheel cut off her glider's hand. |
nlkklsix67 Posted - May 01 2012 : 10:45:30 PM
ok ................im buying new wheels and trashing the wodent wheel ASAP!!! OUCH! Sorry, that sounds so painful, and if it happened to me i would have passed the heck out! O-U-T.......zzzzzzzzzzz
im still freaking out |
DoubleBogey Posted - May 01 2012 : 05:10:37 PM
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Originally posted by rocat
before you throw your wodent wheels away, you can create a toy out of them. clean them good. take the axle/stand out of them. lay them in the cage and stuff with fleece strips. There is also someone that Double Boogie knows that can make a stealth like wheel from the wodents that are safe and they use them for the rescues. So don't throw them away, recycle :)
LOLOLOLOL!!! I am Double Boogie! See, and I think that name fits me a little better than DoubleBogey lately since I have had a sinus infection. Ewwwwwww!
Anywho - THANK YOU RoCat for thinking of the effort - you ROCK!!! If you have wodent wheels...PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider donating them to Sari's rescue. They rebuild these wodent's into SAFE modified wodent wheels for the rescues. I have a couple of these and they are SUPER cool. They have NOTHING in the middle and are mesh based like other safe wheels by the time they are done with them.
Please message Kim Colfer (kcolfer) or myself to make arrangements to send them in. It's best to message KColfer (as she is part of the rescue) here or on FaceBook but I am happy to help as well.
I will also get a post up to get the word out. I have just started collecting for them. BUT, I am going to see them THIS Saturday - so if you have any NOW, I can take them for you or if you are out of state - you can send directly to KC. |
Mollysmom Posted - May 01 2012 : 02:42:36 PM
I have sixteen of them...I don't see me throwing them away! LOL I am the recycling queen. As I said, I've used Wodents for close to six years with no issues. Very strange, sad things that happened to these babies. :( |
rocat Posted - May 01 2012 : 02:27:50 PM
before you throw your wodent wheels away, you can create a toy out of them. clean them good. take the axle/stand out of them. lay them in the cage and stuff with fleece strips. There is also someone that Double Boogie knows that can make a stealth like wheel from the wodents that are safe and they use them for the rescues. So don't throw them away, recycle :) |
Mollysmom Posted - May 01 2012 : 11:46:06 AM
Wow! I am so sorry that you all have gone through this. I just don't see how it would be possible for his tail to get caught on the axel if the guard was in place? What a weird, freaky thing to happen. I've used Wodents for over six years, and have never, ever had an incident. :( |
lilangels Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 11:44:17 PM
This thread breaks my heart...your poor baby. I hope he heals quickly and that you have a healthy wonderful baby soon...congrats on the baby!!! |
Omis n Kais g-ma Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 09:05:37 PM
You may want to contact the OP directly because it doesn't look as if they've made anymore posts. Your girl may be adjusting. Perhaps she's afraid she'll hurt hertail again. So glad you got her to a vet and she's fine. Oh and welcome! We love pictures so please post pics of your colony/ies. |
Dd Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 09:05:27 PM
Im sorry to hear about your glider and his tail. :-( I have a stealth wheel I dont know if this happens to you but sometimes I catch them running at the same time even though there are two wheels idk but that may have happened they run right on top of each other scares me half to death. Good luck |
AmberLynn Posted - Apr 16 2012 : 08:56:37 PM
Hi Everyone!! I am new to the site, I have a big suggie family (10 total) and just recently about 2 weeks ago had one of my babies 10 weeks OOP break her tale in the whodent wheel as well. She didn't rip it off but broke it and had some hair ripped off  . I did take her to vet immediately and she was put on antibiotics and pain meds until it healed. She is doing much better now. Hairs not growing back yet but the area has scabbed and is healing nicely and she seems to not be in much pain now and is running and jumping better.
I removed the wheel that night after looking up and reading other horror stories (thought I had bought the safest wheel available when I got it) and am very thankful for just the break versus a full removal like your little guy.
I am glad your little man is doing better!!
I ordered 2 new stealth wheels as I have 2 cages for my kids  and they love there wheel and have been missing them. Its taking forever for the shipment to get here!!
Question?
My little girl, her name is spice, she runs and jumps so funny now. Does your little guy do the same? Its rather cute if you ask me but I feel bad for her seeing her run and hop funny. Do you think it will really impact her/them??
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JazzNZoeysmom Posted - Apr 14 2012 : 10:25:42 AM
Update? How's that sweet baby doing today? |
stefaniey86 Posted - Apr 14 2012 : 08:38:41 AM
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TJones09 Posted - Apr 14 2012 : 07:36:13 AM
My wodent wheel is OUT of the cage!!!! Again, I'm so sorry to hear of your poor glider's injury. I wish a quick recovery for him. |
Aiden Posted - Apr 14 2012 : 05:26:47 AM
Chris and I had 2 Wodents before our Casey issue, but when we were bought 2 new cages, we went with better wheels. I am so glad we pitched ours when we got 2 stealths. I had asked her if she wanted to save them for back-ups, but she said "Hell No!". Guess she read some issues people were having with the middle bar and this story is just more gasoline to the fire. I am truly sorry for your accident, and Chris and I are sending out the best good vibes we have for your little one to heal. |
BookGoddes Posted - Apr 14 2012 : 05:14:07 AM
I think you reacted just the way you should have! Great job getting him right to the vets office!
I am not expert but in your shoes I would watch them very closely and when you do go to bed I would put your little guy in a hospital (travel) cage with a pouch that smells like his home of course. The reason would be to keep him from being overly active and to keep his mate from over grooming, just in case. Then when you get up and keep an eye on them put them together again.
There are a few lines of thinking on this from what I have noticed. Some believe the separation is safer but more stressful socially, where as keeping them together is more risky but less stress socially.
As for the vet.... no pain meds? No precautionary anti-biotics? Gliders get infections so easy and can look wonderful and go down fast. I am not saying it to worry you, I am sure your a mess of worry already, just that if you take him back to that vet, have him call the back up vets to get more information.
I think wanting to take him 7 hours round trip is wonderful and I would too but in your situation, waiting on baby.... maybe it would be best to stay close to home and have your vet contact a more experienced one in these matters.
Thinking of you and yours! |
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