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Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 13 2012 : 09:07:59 PM
Ok so ziggy got neutered Monday morning. He now has a hole where his incision was. I guess he got the surgical glue off? It's not bleeding. Its about a centimeter big. Just a hole. I can't get a picture I tried. Is it ok? No right?
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makalove Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 11:25:10 PM
i got my emergency cage free by posting an ad on Craigslist. i think it's probably the cage you-know-who sells. Anyway, it folds flat to about 2"-3" thick, so it can slide behind a bookshelf (or their full-size cage), under a bed or sofa, etc.
DoubleBogey Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 08:17:20 PM
My best advice for you is to stick with who you trust and are currently talking to (Val, right?) and a vet regarding the QuickDerm. I know that it has been used but I don't know if it will make the situation worse (i.e. make him really go at it trying to get the glue off).

I am just weary of steering you off in another direction if someone is already counseling you. I would talk to Val and/or the vet before using that stuff. I believe you have to order online or get at a medical supply store anyway so should give you some time to ask.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 05:02:39 PM
Val is the bomb! I am so glad that all is working out good!
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 17 2012 : 05:00:36 PM
Latest update.. Ziggy is okay. I did not separate them, and I have not been worrying, because everything is fine-- Val's advice :). It reopened this morning :( but she said it is okay if that happens, and not to bring him back every time it opens. It opened from him running around all hyper, not him picking at it this time. Val said to let it be, so I am and trying hard not to worry..

He is on antibiotics, so that puts me at some ease, but I also want to put some kind of ointment on it to make it heal faster. I read that quickderm is the stuff to use, but couldn't find it at the store. I also read that neosporin was okay to use with them, but is it okay if he licks it off? Theres no way of me covering it up and keeping him from it. Hopefully someone knows that and answers...
LHill Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 08:44:39 PM
Hope things have calmed down for you both. Keep us posted.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 10:24:39 AM
I'm glad you guys made it through the night okay!

http://www.walmart.com/ip/SportPet-Pop-Open-Kennel-Small-Dogs/5192526

Something like this would work, and they also have some hard sided ones for $15-$30.
petluv15 Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 09:52:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Skyler_and_Ziggy

I don't have room to store another metal cage after I'm done using it. And I don't want to spend up the little money I have left (these guys cost muchhh more than expected) so I have money should I need to go to the vet once again, you know?


Walmart and Target both sell small pop-up carriers for dogs that are $20-30(depending on size). Fold flat when you aren't using them.
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 09:50:49 AM
I don't have room to store another metal cage after I'm done using it. And I don't want to spend up the little money I have left (these guys cost muchhh more than expected) so I have money should I need to go to the vet once again, you know?
crazed_girl Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 09:42:57 AM
I got a cage from PetSmart / PetCo. Just a simple small bird cage for their travel cage. It works when I need it. I am able to put food and a water bottle in it so if they are going to be away from their main cage for a night they will at least have food/water.
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 09:40:08 AM
Ok.. I will try to construct a travel cage then.. I was thinking about just buying one of those cheap mesh pop up hampers and sorta ringing something to stay on top.. Maybe using a second hamper for the top closure..

Is that a bad idea? That's something I can probably run to the dollar store for and have ready in like 15mins lol
crazed_girl Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 09:29:37 AM
Something you will want to do is to get a second cage or at least an emergency cage. My Gizmo after his Neuter SM. After a week in the e-collar with his cage mates one of them re-opened the incision site causing me to go to an e-vet at 12am. I had to keep Gizmo separate from his two buddies for about 30 days to ensure the incision site was 100% healed, and he would leave it alone after it was healed. Once he was back in with his brothers I watched them like a hawk to ensure NO ONE re-opened the healed incision site.

Having an emergency/travel cage will help and is needed should there ever be an emergency. Also having an extra full size cage works great should there be an emergency and you -must- separate but don't want to place one in a super small cage for over a week. Craigslist is good for used cages.

I hope things are better now and good luck. :} It isn't an easy thing to go through. I would really like to see a picture of the incision site. Hope all is well today.
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 08:54:51 AM
I know this sounds weird but I think they both learned that I didn't want them picking at it (I have been awefully persistent) lol.i don't have a spare cage that they can stay in :/. They did sleep separate on their own, but that because I kept removing skyler from where ziggy was sleeping I think :) .. He either barked or crabbed or hissed at her every time she was picking at it and I was sleeping lightly, so I'd like to think I stopped it all and ziggy didn't want her to do that.

You had to see when I put the bonding pouch with ziggy in the cage though.. Skyler went right too him as I said before, but after I took her out a dozen times she settled for sleeping right under the bonding pouch so she was still close to her brother. It was really cute.

And rukyia, I woulda duct taped him to me already if that wasn't animal cruelty! :D haha I'm going to keep ziggy on me all day so I can keep an eye. Hopefully he stays up a lot of the day again (is that being cruel??) because he definitely slept most of the night ;).
DoubleBogey Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 10:30:09 PM
I hate it, but if she is the one picking at it, I would keep them separate tonight. That's just me, I am no pro and someone else might tell you different but I am all about eliminating/lowering risk.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 09:07:58 PM
do you have a hospital/spare cage?
LHill Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 09:03:18 PM
They are sneaky little boogers. Good luck you are both in my prayers tonight.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 09:00:36 PM
Then again...DEE YOO SEE TEE...Tape. Duct Tape!

I'm just sayin.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 08:58:35 PM
Dang! I really thought we had his a$$ with that one man! Well I'll start the coffee.
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 08:53:33 PM
Skyler may have been the culprit originally :( . He was in the cage for a second (exhausted since he was up most of the day) and as soon as she noticed he was in the cage again she ran up to him and within seconds was picking at it!

Prewrap lasted the whole time that he slept.. Then he got out of it within seconds of trying to get it off ... -_-

I give up. I'm just Gunna wake up all night long. Ugh.
LHill Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 03:42:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rukiya

Good tip LHill! I never would have thought of that one! Good on ya!


Thanks but I can't take credit, it was a recommendation since Jax is an over groomer and I was worried about SM. I was told that some licking of the glue is to be expected and distraction is best. I was also advised that if you can distract them then it probably isn't SM just grooming.

Good luck!
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:40:57 PM
I called and left a message a while ago.. No answer.

Thank you.. I appreciate it.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:36:12 PM
Good tip LHill! I never would have thought of that one! Good on ya!
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:35:01 PM
I checked wally worlds site and they have some called coach sports care (link below)
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=13423345&findingMethod=rr

I am sure you can find anywhere that has a pharmacy area. Good luck!
LHill Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:30:35 PM
Did you call Val? She could give you info regarding what you are going through.

I was told when getting Jax neutered that if they used glue it might be a good idea to have them put a little on other parts of his body too. That lets the glider focuses on those spots since they tend to want the glue off. Maybe put a little honey on his shoulder to give him something else to clean? Not sure if it would help or not?
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:27:05 PM
Ok. I lose. My stuff wasn't stickey enough. Gunna buy something like it but new. Mine was really old so I guess it lost some stickiness. I would have had him in it twice If it stuck better -_-.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:26:28 PM
Yeah, the link that J&Z's mom gave is what you should use. That other stuff is for (the birds) protection from casts rubbing.

I'm sure it is frustrating but keep at it. Y'all will either figure it out, or wear him out! Either way he's not picking at himself! Always a silver lining!
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:17:21 PM
I used the foam feeling kind. It's self adhesive but not really. Jazzs mom posted the link with the wrinkled stuff that's very self adhesive. Gunna try that next. This is awfully frustrating :(.
Rukiya Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 02:08:52 PM
I tried to tell ya...dee yoo see tee tape. Duct tape. But seriously these are wiggly little buggers so don't give up! (Hence my Riggley's name: Riggley = wiggly, southern fried!)

I wouldn't think the athletic tape would stick to his glue but I am as far from an expert as you can get! So take any advice I give with a big chunk of salt!

Is the wrap you used first the stuff they put under a cast? The pre-wrap/athletic tape is wrinkled fabric feeling stuff. Not plasticy foamy feeling at all.
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 01:53:57 PM
But I just looked at that link. That's not what I used. I have that stuff too tho. Lol I'll try again in a few after he is calm again. Ugh.
Skyler_and_Ziggy Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 01:52:11 PM
Omg. I can't get it on him. Every second I'm not like pinning him down heroes to pick at it too :( . I just want to take a shower :(.. I guess the good news is he will sleep all night so I won't have to worry then, right? :/

I had him sit there nicely while handing him treats and I didn't wrap it tight enough that time. He won't sit still again -_-
Magdals Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 01:30:21 PM
will the tape stick to the surgical glue though?


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