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Mar 13 2009
10:42:26 PM
What honey do u use to give gliders? In the store there is stuff that says raw or natural or something. Then the wal-mart brand says clover or something. I was just asking cause on all honey bottles there is no ingredients listed.
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Mar 13 2009
11:03:50 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
There shouldnt be any ingredients other than honey.

I dont give my gliders honey very often, but have always used the Great Value brand from Walmart. It is clover honey.

When that runs out, I plan on getting raw honey from a health food store. Raw honey has been somwhat filtered so it doesnt have bee legs and honeycomb in it, but it isnt perfectly clear like honey we generally purchase out of a store.
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Mar 13 2009
11:04:38 PM
Peaches17 Glider Visit Peaches17's Photo Album 137 Posts
ok thank you!! :)
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Mar 13 2009
11:50:22 PM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3478 Posts
When I buy honey - I buy the lightest colored honey on the shelf. The lighter colored ones seem to have a less strong "thick" flavor and the gliders like it better.

They say never feed Raw honey. I've read that everywhere - but I don't know why?
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Mar 14 2009
03:52:45 AM
snusie Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit snusie's Photo Album snusie's Journal USA 2962 Posts
I've wondered that too. One thought is that raw honey contains beeswax, and so may cause intestinal blockage. I don't know, it's just a thought I had.
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Mar 14 2009
07:06:48 AM
dizzysmom Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit dizzysmom's Photo Album dizzysmom's Journal IN, USA 3882 Posts
I've also always heard "never raw honey" but never learned why. In addition to wax, it could be microorganisms that haven't been removed.
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Mar 14 2009
03:25:20 PM
Todd120 Glider GliderMap 89 Posts
I use it to flavor the veggies. Otherwise, they never eat them. I have been using the generic brand as well.
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Mar 15 2009
05:31:38 AM
snusie Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit snusie's Photo Album snusie's Journal USA 2962 Posts
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Originally posted by dizzysmom

I've also always heard "never raw honey" but never learned why. In addition to wax, it could be microorganisms that haven't been removed.



I bet you're right. Doing a little research this morning, I learned that raw honey frequently contains spores of the botulin bacteria; apparently the spores aren't harmful to healthy humans, but infants or people whose immune systems are compromised can get very sick. I guess the pasteurizing of honey will destroy those bacteria spores. Incidentally, the spores are all around us all the time ...

From the Wikipedia article: (this information also appears other places, this one is less technical and thus more readable)

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Growth of the bacterium can be prevented by high acidity, high ratio of dissolved sugar, high levels of oxygen, very low levels of moisture or storage at temperatures below 38F (type A). For example in a low acid, canned vegetable such as green beans that are not heated hot enough to kill the spores (i.e., a pressurized environment) may provide an oxygen free medium for the spores to grow and produce the toxin. On the other hand, pickles are sufficiently acidic to prevent growth; even if the spores are present, they pose no danger to the consumer. Honey, corn syrup, and other sweeteners may contain spores but the spores cannot grow in a highly concentrated sugar solution; however, when a sweetener is diluted in the low oxygen, low acid digestive system of an infant, the spores can grow and produce toxin. As soon as infants begin eating solid food, the digestive juices become too acidic for the bacterium to grow.


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Mar 15 2009
04:08:31 PM
DeSalvionjr Joey 12 Posts
I recommend you buy direct from a beekeeper or buy from an organics food store.
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Apr 25 2009
06:37:27 PM
kethryxitachi Joey Visit kethryxitachi's Photo Album MN, USA 11 Posts
what if you use raw honey but with hot water? is that still bad?
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Apr 25 2009
06:46:42 PM
OnyxRiddle Super Glider Visit OnyxRiddle's Photo Album USA 304 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by DeSalvionjr

I recommend you buy direct from a beekeeper or buy from an organics food store.



I buy organic wild flower honey.
I'll mix a little into some vanilla yogurt as a licky treat. They go crazy for it

I also use it to make my HPW.

also, if you buy it at organic farmers markets, you can buy a lot for really cheap!

Edited by - OnyxRiddle on Apr 25 2009 06:48:15 PM
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Apr 26 2009
11:16:41 AM
brandi_willsgirl Super Glider GliderMap Visit brandi_willsgirl's Photo Album USA 213 Posts
i use the generic stuff from walmart to make my BML (the clover honey) but i never give honey as a treat. I use yogurt for that! =)
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Apr 26 2009
02:03:54 PM
our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit our2girlz's Photo Album United States 2362 Posts
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Originally posted by brandi_willsgirl

i use the generic stuff from walmart to make my BML (the clover honey) but i never give honey as a treat. I use yogurt for that! =)

I do the exact same.
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Apr 26 2009
07:57:10 PM
suggielover74 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggielover74's Photo Album USA 933 Posts
I like the wild flower honey and vanilla yogurt licky treat idea. I will have to try that one.
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