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Ultimate newbie with a 4 wk OOP joey
Ultimate newbie with a 4 wk OOP joey
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Oct 22 2010
11:48:04 AM
Sorry for this long post, I just realized how much help we need... =S We bought a sugar glider from a local hobbyist this morning and I regret not finding this site before today. =S I thought we did our research well by watching some "sugarglidervet" videos on youtube... Then after more research today, I'm finding out that those videos are inaccurate and harmful... >=(

But its too late to go back in time and I hope nobody will be too harsh on our newbie mistakes. =( I want to do good by our little joey now that she's with us.

Anyway, "Alicea Bandita" is our new joey. The seller said she is about a month OOP (he didn't remember the exact date), which I asked if she was too young to be released but he said it's fine because she is already eating on her own.

I'm very worried now that I'm reading that she should not have been separated from her mother til at least 8 weeks. =S The seller just told me to feed her some wheat and banana baby food and apple cubes.

I'm reading the "Hand Raising a Joey" article on the Suz' Sugar Glider site (which I found by reading another post here on this forum). I won't be able to find all the ingredients on the list locally though. Would it be ok to substitute the Briskys Booster Milk with any brand of puppy milk?

Also, Suz' site says I should feed a 4 wk OOP joey every 3-4 hours. Alicea has been sleeping most of the day and I have fed her baby cereal once about an hour after we brought her home. Should I wake her up to feed her or wait for her to wake up on her own?

After eating, I massaged her cloaca with a baby wipeand she defacated an urinated with no problem... Is she already old enough to do this on her own though or should I continue stimulating her after feeding for a few more weeks?

The site says she should be in a makeshift "incubator"... Since I live in the Philippines where it does not reach exceedingly cold temperatures, would I still need this? I put a bunch of fleece and felt "blankets" for her to snuggle in for warmth for now... but exactly how much warmth should I provide for her?

Sorry for these newbie questions. =S I really thought we did our research but apparently not. I'm very worried for Alicea and I hope you can offer us your guidance. Thanks!!

Here are some pictures of Alicea ^_^



(That's my 7 year old son's hand in the pics)

Edited by - lapinay on Oct 22 2010 02:42:10 PM
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Oct 22 2010
03:00:54 PM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3478 Posts
I wish the pictures were a little bigger! However, judging from the "spread eagle" stance in the first picture, I'd say you do have a quite young joey - and one that shouldn't have been parted from her mother.

If he is eating anything on her own- then you don't have to feed Suz's diet. Baby cereal isn't really a good option for joeys. Instead - try a variety of baby foods. Baby food chicken is a good start - she'll need the protein. Then add some baby food peas and green beans, some applesauce, some carrots. Make sure the baby foods do not include added salt or other seasonings. Onion and garlic are toxic.

Does she have a sleeping pouch? If she has a fleece sleeping pouch and you give her plenty of fleece blankets, that should help her. Additionally, you can wrap her in fleece and carry her down your shirt for warmth. Do not sleep with her in your shirt, however.

Anything you substitute can NOT have artificial sweeteners. That's why Gatoraide is discouraged ... it usually does have sweeteners.

Do you have a space heater you can put near her cage (not too near, of course!) at night? At 4 weeks old, she isn't really very good at monitoring her own body heat.

Make sure she stays hydrated. Make sure you see her drinking, and see if you can offer her some water or diluted fruit juice several times a day with an eye dropper. Fluids are important to her. Don't force her to drink - because she could choke and aspirate the fluids into her lungs. But do wake her up several times a day (maybe every 3-4 hours?) to encourage her to drink.

Good luck! She's adorable!
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Oct 22 2010
03:01:05 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
Welcome! And nobody is going to be harsh here. I can't help on the diet side but I can certainly tell you that you've come to the right place for help.
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Oct 22 2010
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Welcome and good luck. Sounds like you got some good answers...
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Oct 22 2010
08:01:19 PM
fire-eyez Super Glider Visit fire-eyez's Photo Album 209 Posts
I am currently caring for a 2 week old squirrel and i Have been using a heating pad on the LOWSEST setting with a towel and put my plastic they call it a critter keepter in most pet stores with lots of fleece in their . I have half of the critter keeper on the heating pad and the other half off and i put a thermometer on the side that has the heating pad so I can check the temp. I am not sure at what temp a suggie should be at but I keep mine at 80 degress because he has no fur. I personally use a 1/2 cc sringe because it has a smaller opening. I heard the best thing to hydrate a baby well at least for a squrriel is to get a cup of water 1 tablespoon of sugar and one teaspoon of salt and then warm itup in microwave so it dissolves... sorry if im not much help I know thins is good for a young squirrel but im sure other more experiences people will come on here and comment :) and help...GOOD LUCK AND WELCOME

Edited by - fire-eyez on Oct 22 2010 08:02:18 PM
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Oct 22 2010
10:07:58 PM
lapinay Starting Member Visit lapinay's Photo Album 8 Posts
Thank you so much for your input!!

Links to bigger version of the pics I posted are here:

www.shareapic.net/View-23683358-Starfish%27s-Exotics.html
www.shareapic.net/View-23683360-Starfish%27s-Exotics.html
www.shareapic.net/View-23683368-Starfish%27s-Exotics.html

Warning though, the photo service I use as A LOT of pop-ups and pop-unders which can get annoying, which is why I didn't link them in my original post. =)

She hasn't eaten much during feeding, just a few drops at most from a tablespoon. Her feces seem normal though and she urinates when I stimulate her cloaca so I'm pretty sure she is hydrated. I have not actually seen her drink water though so I will buy some Pedialyte and a small dropper or syringe to help her. Thanks for the warning aginst Gatorade!! Yet another thing I have to unlearn from the "vet-approved" videos we watched. :S I'm very worried aboutthe amount of food she is eating though and will buy some baby food jars as soon as the store opens.

I don't have a space heater but I made a bunch of felt pouches for her. She seems comfortable in them and doesn't seemto be shivering. BTW, I know fleece would have been the best option for pouch material but its hard to come by in the Philippines so I improvisedwith felt which is not as warm but at least like fleece it does't snag.

She was very active this morning and kept wanting to climb out of her pouch which I am wearing to lend her a bit of my body heat. She is now snuggled between my palm and laptop. I suspect because she likes the warmth of the laptop. She seems content right now so I'm happy. :)

She slept in hamster cage last night (only a temporary arrangement, I promise! =D ) But I will try the critter keeper set-up.

Thank you so much again! I will try yoursuggestions and continue reading up onhow to wean such a young joey. I'm very optimistic about Alicea and will keep you updated!!

One last thing... since there are A LOT of conflicting/confusing "caresheets" on the web, I'm not sure what's what. @_@ Would info in a Sugar Glider book be better to "trust"? I found this one in a local bookstore, would it be a good source of info?

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