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Glider22 Joey 11 Posts
Hello, I just received two sugar gliders as pets for my graduation from visiting family members who purchased them in NJ from Pocket Pets. However, I found out after they gave them to me that the gliders are illegal in my state...and I am not sure what to do. I would love to keep them but I have no idea how to care for them. I know my family meant well but I am worried this will turn into a disaster. Because they got them from PP, I cannot return them and I am scared I won't be able to care for them properly but I am willing to try. I am more worried about their illegality. I have only had them for two days (since Friday) and I haven't yet started to bond with them. I followed the Pocket Pets instructions (which I have been reading appears to be wrong). Are there any owners in PA that could give me advice? Help?
Glider22 Joey 11 Posts Also: My house is EXTREMELY cold lately. Around 54 degree. I know the heat rocks are apparently bad but I am scared to take it out for fear that they will freeze. I have a heat lamp on and a blanket wrapped around a cage. Is there anything else I can do?! Glider22 Joey 11 Posts I do not have fleece pouches, just what was given in the starter set from my family. I hate to say this but I might have to sell them ( I would give them away but I want to be able to tell my family that they didn't waste their money). I know they paid 1000 but in reality, what can I sell them for without ripping someone else off? It a male and female, wheel, food/water feeder, and cage. Kozi Fuzzy Wuzzy WI, USA 1278 Posts I would hope someone is going after PP for selling you gliders ILLEGALLY... They should've had to get some info from your parents, a drivers license, something so that they knew where you live and NO reputable breeder or broker, as is the case here, should be selling to illegal states if they're licensed, especially. It isn't really your fault as a: you didn't buy them and b: I'm SURE your parents had no idea they were illegal and I highly doubt PP brought that up to risk loosing a sale. This is really shocking to me. X_X However, all of that said. I DO know people on here own them in illegal states. It's never advised as you can have them taken away and put down if found out, but maybe someone that knows more about it will come along. ): Sorry I'm not of much help! I'd just start reading up on diet and care info for now if you can find it as unfortunately much of what PP 'teaches' is really inaccurate. D: And please, never stick your finger in their mouths! ;-; EDIT: Probably 200-300 bucks, in all honesty. They're mill gliders for one, that cage is WAY too small by any standards, for two. I've see gliders go for even less than that on CL. ): PP is known for over charging. I sell two gray joeys for around 300 and a cage like 4 times that size you can easily get for around 100. I don't know how PP stays in business. X_X Glider22 Joey 11 Posts Where could I put them up for sale? I have thought about it and I am fairly certain I cannot keep them, as much as I would to. It is just not responsible to me or the the little critters. Glider22 Joey 11 Posts I am in Northern PA on the border of NY/NJ. I am really very upset that I can't keep them but I know rehoming them is best.I am just worried no one will buy them because they are from the dreaded "pocket pets"
Glider22 Joey 11 Posts I can completely understand WHY no one likes the company. I do not know anything about Sugar Gliders or their care...yet they are selling them (where my family got them) in MALLS?! To other people who know nothing about these adorable animals? That is just...it's not right. When people see them they assume they will be like a hamster who doesn't require much and purchase them for fun. But they seem to take a LOT of time, love, and care and most people aren't thinking about that when they get them. I would LOVE to keep my two but it would be so irresponsible of me when I can't guarantee their safety due to state laws. If I ever move out of PA, though, I will defiantly look into these lovelies as pets. angelmom Goofy Gorillatoes USA 2002 Posts angelmom Goofy Gorillatoes USA 2002 Posts you might want to call a local place- i found this on bornfreeusa.org <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Pennsylvania Category: L (Requires the "owner" of the exotic animal to obtain a license or permit or to register the animal with state or local authorities to privately possess the animal (excludes states only requiring import permits)) Summary of Law: No person may keep exotic wildlife without first receiving a permit from the wildlife commission. Exotic wildlife includes, but is not limited to all bears, coyotes, lions, tigers, leopards, jaguars, cheetahs, cougars, wolves, and any crossbreed of these animals, which have similar characteristics in appearance or features. However, there are no state requirements for a person possessing non-human primates and reptiles. Citation: 34 PA. CONS. STAT. ANN. §2961 and §2963<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> I don't think sugar gliders are in any of these categories, so maybe a local fish and game person could help you out? Do a little more research before you give up on these little guys! Glider22 Joey 11 Posts I have spent the past three days combing the internet about them and it seems that the permit required has not been issued in PA for years. People are routinely denied permits for Sugar Gliders. As I said, they were a graduation gift (college) and I am terrified that in addition to the legality, that I won't be able to provide them the care they rightfully deserve. If they get sick I can't afford to take them to the vet, I am trying to save up to move OUT of my current residence. I did consider moving to NJ/NY but I cannot afford it at this time. Also, I received them from my family members who did not consult with my father (the person I currently live with) before purchasing and gifting them to me. It was irresponsible of them and he is not pleased. No, I think it is better if I find them a new home. Glider22 Joey 11 Posts This is one of the reasons I can't believe they were so irresponsible. They gifted me two babies on Friday and flew back out to Minnesota on Saturday morning. I have already called and spoken with them about it and there are very sorry but since they are so far way now, there is nothing they can do and I am NOT shipping the poor little creatures to them. That would be cruel and inhumane. valston Super Glider NY, USA 319 Posts If you're set on rehoming, there is a classified section on the this site that you can list them on. These little guys are alot of work (very well worth it), but when put in a situation like you have been put into, I can see where you're coming from. They are not a pet for everyone, like you had said, they are not like a hamster or small pet like that. You can also post on craigslist. You probably will not get the money back that your family has invested in them, but you should be able to find them a new home. If you list in craigslist, you might want to list it in NY near the PA line (Chautaqua, Twin Tiers, ect.) I would also ask alot of questions of people who may be interested in adopting them from you to make sure they are knowledgable about them. If I was in a position to purchase them from you, I would, but if you needed help with fostering until a new home could be found, I would be more than happy to help. (I'm not far from you, I live about 30 miles south of Buffalo)Good luck with whatever you decide. Glider22 Joey 11 Posts Thank you all so much! I am currently talking to some people who are interested in them but if they decide to change their mind I will absolutely be in contact with Valston or GB8502. The people are supposed to take them this weekend but of that does not work I will contact you guys. Thank you all so much for your help with this. It is stressing me out for them and I am so worried cause I know they need love but I do not want them to begin bonding with me!
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