We just acquired 2 females. They have been in a neglected situation. One acted fine, the other was very aggressive. My husband and I took them with us to our Fleamarket to buy some bonding pouches from a guy who owns a business there. He offered to trim their nails and I was fine with that. While I was looking at pouches and he was trimming "the aggressive" one, my husband said that he trimmed her 2 bottom teeth also so she couldn't bite anyone anymore. I didn't ask him to do this and I didn't even know he did until we left. I had read on here that they can get infection. Do you think this little girl is in pain? After we left there she calmed down alot. She not crabbing like she was or trying to attack. But I can' believe that guy cut her teeth with nail clippers while my clueless husband just stood there. (He didn't know b/c we are first time owners and just got them 2 days ago) Now I'm really worried about her.

Secondly, while we were there, he said that the "nicer of the 2" had NO bottom teeth. They are not old gliders but her poor teeth are gone and her little tongue hangs out b/c of it. I did not notice this b/c we were trying to to "rush" the inspection and playing process. The people we got them from 1st off told us they were boys (we found out different today and have yet to decide on name changes) and 2nd they gave us a huge bag of parrot fruit blend dry food and said that is what they eat. The guy at the market said that could be the reason that the "nicer one" has no bottom teeth. Now I'm worried that she won't be able to eat right. Can she still eat dry food with no bottom teeth?

We are just glad that they are not in their prior home anymore b/c apparently they haven't been taken good care of. I just want to be able to provide the best for them. So I basically have one who came to me w/ no bottom teeth, and another who got her teeth cruelly trimmed today. I was furious but now I'm just worried.

Also, I'm getting so much different info about diets. I was told they love oranges but then told not to give them citrus fruit. I was told not to give them dry food & then told that the bird fruit blend wasn't good enough even with calcium powder. I live in an area where there are not many people who know much about them and then everyone who does thinks they are experts. I have researched alot on this site but I'm kinda at a loss. I don't want them to get sick. My 6 y/o son would be tore if that were to happen. These are all he's wanted for 3 years.

Oh, & 1 more thing (sorry this is so much), but the guy at the market told me that I needed to replace their water bottles. They are not drinking much and their bottles are the rabbit kind with the ball. I bought a new kind with a tray like thing but is this acurate? I'm worried about them getting dehydrated. They are in a new home, new people, being given different food, being tortured (i.e. teeth trimmed), and I'm worried they will get depressed and dehydrated. How can I get them to drink more?

The guy who trimmed their nails and teeth is apparently a complete idiot and probably sentenced your guys to a hard life. They aren't rodents, and their teeth do not grow-so by trimming them you have crippled them. I'm sorry to be rude, but this is why people need to research before they buy an animal. And I wouldn't trust a medical procedure to be done at a flea market. I would take them to an exotic vet right away to assess the damage. I am sure that they are in pain if he trimmed their teeth.

Did you get the gliders from a flea market? What diet are they on? You are probably going to have to give them a full liquid diet if they have no teeth. Your vet will know more than I will.

I'm usually very nice, and I'm sorry but this makes me mad. I am very glad that you came on here for information, but did you research before you got these guys? And please, a flea market? I get buying things from there, but you shouldn't have a procedure like this done by anyone but a vet or yourself. Also, you shouldn't let your gliders outside unless they are firmly secured in a pouch. They can and will run away-and then they have to face the elements, finding food, and becoming food.

I'm at a loss for words.

I'm sure quite a few people are at a loss for words, Ikaria, I know I am.

Keep those animals away from fairs and flea markets. I am almost too shocked to think.

First make an appointment with a Glider knowledgable Vet to get those gliders examined.

Second Pick one of the recommended diets, HPW, BML, Blended Diet which ever one seems best for you.

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Where do you live? If one of us is near you maybe they know of a vet or can help you out in another way.

oh my goodness... ok you have totally brought me to tears. It makes me shudder to think of what those babies are thinking and feeling right now.
First of all go to the resources tab at the top and click on nutrition and pick a diet. BML is what I use. I guess you need to blend thier fruits and veggies now too and DO NOT FEED THEM ANY PELLET FOODS! That is all I really have to say right now. I am going to love on my babies and thank God that I am not dealing with what you are at this moment. Please get them to an exoctic vet ASAP.

I feel nauseous. That person should be reported! That IS abuse! Yes, please get them to a glider knowledgeable vet as soon as humanly possible.

You need to go back and inform the guy you dont trim gliders teeth.

guys you missing the point of this , she didnt tell the guy to cut the teeth lay off that , second the other one had no teeth I am just glad she got them and is trying to find help so they can live a better life , so please dont be rude about that she asking for help not for you to judge her . Ok now that being said , I am fairly new to gliders and had alot of help from nice people on other sites , what I know is try hpw diet I use it and it great www.hpwplus.com/default.htm here a like to get them some for cheap my girls love it , now that they have no teeth i would blend the fruit and veggies so it easier for them , get to a vet to have them check out since the teeth got trim today most likely she is in pain , you can use either water dish or water bottle I use both so I know they getting water , most time they get their water from the fruit so they dont drink that musch from I been told . So relax you came here for help so by doing that you taking one step closer doing better for them then the last owners , do you know their age ? and how big is your cage for them ? It should be atleast 3ft tall and 2 feet wide and 2 feet dept and 1/2 bar spacing so they cant get out , I am sorry that you got these poor gliders in bad shape but over time and right diet you be able to get these glider love and in good health . I hope all goes well .

Who should tell him more than just not to do it....
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I did alot of research before we decided to take these little girls on. Like I said before, the one girl has no bottom (the 2 long ones) teeth at all and I recieved her like that. The guy sells sugar gliders but we wouldn't ever buy one from him because I felt he had them priced too high. So we would take my son and let him play with the ones they had. When these 2 girls came up for needing a forever home ASAP, we jumped on it. I have them an appt. for a vet that sees gliders but their little nails were so long and snagging everything. One of them had her whole body twisted b/c her little nail was stuck to FLEECE! I wanted to trim them myself but since I had never done it before I thought Why not? He had everything there to do it b/c he trims his own that are on display so they do not scratch customers.

The thing is, these little girls appear to have been through alot. They have been neglected and not cared for properly. When we went to the people's house to get them, they were living in filth. Their cage had not been cleaned for 7 months and they told me that. They were more than happy for me to take them off their hands. Since I was the one who did all the research, I tried to relay as much info as possible to my husband. I never dreamed that the teeth trimming would be an issue so I never said anything to him. I read it on here that you shouldn't and I thought "Okay, no biggie, that's something that I should not consider." The thing is, I didn't give the guy permission to do it. I knew better! But my husband said that even if he had known, he wouldn't have had a chance to speak up. She bit the guy while he was trimming her nails and he simply appeared to be looking at her teeth. No big deal. My husband said that within a blink of an eye he reached up and clipped her bottom teeth as he was saying, "Lets get those a little shorter so you can't bite like that." It wasn't like he asked if he could do it. He just did it! It happened so quick that my husband said he would've been done before he could have even said stop (if he'd known to). I feel horrible now! I wanted to give these babies a good life and I feel guilty b/c even though I had no control over the one girl who had no teeth when I got her, I should have just waited the 2 weeks until their appt. to get their nails trimmed. I didn't go there to have it done, I went to get bonding pouches b/c you can't buy them anywhere else around here. I just thought nail trimming was no big deal and their nails were really really awful. I don't know how they've managed this long w/ nails like that.

I called my vet this afternoon after I posted my original post and she said that as long as her teeth weren't cut down where the root would be exposed, she should be fine. She said she will check her out when we come in for our appt. in 2 weeks, but she said that even though you should never trim their teeth, she should still be fine with them a little shorter than before. I don't know what he thought he was doing b/c she can still bite.

Then a guy at Petco who used to breed gliders said that sometimes their teeth grow so long that it is uncomfortable for them and to trim just a tiny bit off is no big deal.

Like I said before, I did lots & lots of research. We didn't get 2 babies, they are already grown so yes, I researched everything I possibly could before we picked them up, after we got them, and have been talking to anyone who will talk to me about them. I've read lots of things on this forum. I didn't take them with me there to submit them to that. We just packed them in with us to pick out their bonding pouches. No big deal. When we got back to the car I made the comment that "the more aggressive one" was alot calmer acting. My husband said yeah, she got those nasty nails trimmed and those enormous teeth. Her teeth were so large that she couldn't close her mouth all of the way but I still wouldn't have cut them. I freaked out when he told me. My husband feels awful but that wasn't something I thought would ever be an issue.

So do you guys agree with what the vet said? That there shouldn't be any serious issues as long as they weren't cut where the root would be exposed? I'm worried that she is calmer now b/c she is in pain and I don't know what I can do for her.

We already decided that we will not even buy supplied from this guy ever again. I can't support a business that would do that to a helpless animal and to top it off, he didn't even ask permission. I found a website that sales handmade products to help with rescued gliders so I will be buying from them from now on.

Thanks Vhenke. I felt like I was being attacked.
Their cage is about 7 feet tall and about 3ft by 3ft. It's a pretty big cage. It's not metal but it has a base and then the whole cage has soft netting completely covering it. Their nails were getting snagged on the cage where they climb around on the walls and twisting their feet and legs up.

I am so sorry for you and your little gliders. What a horrible thing to happen.

Is the vet your seeing glider knowledgeable? Im asking because I dont think you should wait 2 weeks for an appointment!!! The person who clipped this little one's teeth should be shot as he has damned her to a life of pain.

Please make certain your vet is an exotic vet that knows about gliders. These little ones really need good medical care right now.

Thank you for coming here and telling us about them. Please keep us updated on how things are going. If you need help finding an exotic vet, let us know and we will help you.

Aww thats sucks , that sounds like a big cage . is it cloth net over it if so I would change it to hardwarenet which is a plastic netting which
I use for my girls cage , they cant chew through it that easy if they are chews but yours dont really have teeth so that wont matter then lol the link I sent you is for hpw plush which has calcuim made in it so you dont have to worry about calcium lvls at all and worry about the hlp happening , it pretty cheap and my girls been on it for a little time and they just love it , they have what you feed in the diet on the page and how much , give it a try you can even get a free smaple of it . I just love it made my work easy as to feeding my girls the best diet to me . You on your way to being a loving mommy. You can get them a www.petco.com/product/105026/PETCO-Small-Animal-Mesh-Exercise-Wheels.aspx?CoreCat=OnSiteSearch this wheel Peggy told me about it and put a few piece of sand paper on it to trim their nails as they run on it , thats what I do for my girls I have to get the lager one it only 8 dollars for it and since peggy said it ok , I use it I got the med one but getting the big one soon , the big one really big ^_^ they love it well good luck you can write me anytime and post pics when you can , I got the best glider buddy ever to help me so she alway be glad to help you with anything you want to know .

imagine it this way.... We go to the denist and have to get teeth trimmed and pulled out etc. And the doctors give us pain meds.... I am pretty sure a little baby glider can barely tolerate that without any meds!!! I am sorry if u r offended. The only person I am prosecuting is the stupid flea market dude.
And that is really who everyone else is prosecuting too

She is not the vet I normally see. I searched for a glider knowledgable vet before I even went to pick them up just to make sure I had one close. She is advertised to work with lots of them and she seemed to know what she was talking about on other things when I spoke to her. I just wasn't sure about the teeth thing. She said that she is probably in a little pain but there's not much that could be done about it and the thing that we need to watch for is inflammation in & around her mouth. But 2 weeks was the soonest I could get them in for a wellness check and I thought they might work something out with this happening but she said unless I start seeing inflammation, she should be fine. I just can't stop thinking about it! I don't know for sure how old they are. The people told me about 2 years old but they also told me alot of other things that haven't been accurate, including that they were both boys until I found out they were girls today.

I'm not sure the wheel Venke posted it "glider approved". No one that has had gliders for a long time has ever recommended that model. Injuries caused by wheels are common if the right wheel is not used. Tails, necks, ect are snapped by a bad wheel.

Wodent Wheel and the Stealth Wheel are the most commonly used and approved of by the glider community. There's another one but I can't remember the name of it.

You said your 6 year old wanted gliders? And he's wanted them since he was 3? I personally find that a little concerning because they aren't very docile or cuddly creatures- I wouldn't recommend them for anyone under 13, and even then it would have to be a VERY mature 13 year old. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your child, I'm more concerned about him getting bit, or not being able to handle them correctly (purely for the reason that children's motor skills are generally lacking). A hamster or guinea pig seems more fitting for a 6 year old, thats when I got my first hamster. Thats just my opinion though.

Let me tell everyone here and you can spread the word, just because someone claims to be an exotic vet DOES NOT mean they know anything about sugar gliders. There is one on the approved list that trimmed the teeth on my glider, I trusted them, they are the vet, they are supposed to be schooled on the animals they care for but that is not always true. I urge you not to wait 2 weeks to go to another vet-- do it as soon as possible. You need to make sure the pulp of the teeth is not exposed.If it is exposed your glider can get an abscess and it can go to the jaw. I know you can file malpractice against a vet but I am not sure about the vendor that did this at the flea market. I would contact the state you live in to find out what you can do to assure this person never does this to another glider.Serve your baby puree food for a few days -- mine did not eat until I started doing that. He still wants/needs his food atleast mashed before he eats it. Please feel free to message me if you have more questions.

OMG! I feel so sorry for your little guys! People can be VERY misleading about the care of gliders! I know people on here can be a little aggressive when it comes to the mistreatment of gliders, but thats because they care :). Just by you getting on this site and asking questions shows that you care! I hope that everything turns out of for your gliders! Dont be afraid to ask questions on here! NO question is a stupid one!

ummmmm I dont think the gliders are just for him I am sure he get to pet them with mommy around and then again these little girls dont really have teeth so I think she find with the 6 year old playing with them and her at the same time guys lol stay on point , my 3year old girl love the glider but she never get to hold them , they have biten her and me and she didnt really cry about it , and still wants to see them and pet them all the time , it how you let your kids treat them that matters and I am sure she feeding him and taking care of them not the little boy relax rofl some people .

Vhenke- My concern was that the child was the one who had "forced" the purchase, it happens ALL the time. Parent's buy to make kids happy, and take on something they aren't expecting. My concern is purely for the glider.

U tell her angelmom lol

hehee i understand but I wouldnt buy someting to just make my kid happy like a animal that cost so much like a glider, i think she more wanted it and the child most likely did too so it was a join thing to do , i was going to do hamster but they to fast lol and the little pig , oo i swollen up so bad i look funny . I think glider are good pets if you take the time with your kids with them and i do understand what you saying but they can be cuddle buddies in time , kids can learn to be great pet helpers if you teach them and long as the mommy and daddy are up for the jobs ^_^ just what I think . Lets help this new mommy like people that help me ^_^

I can't read this thread, it just makes me cringe with pain.

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<br />imagine it this way.... We go to the denist and have to get teeth trimmed and pulled out etc. And the doctors give us pain meds.... I am pretty sure a little baby glider can barely tolerate that without any meds!!! I am sorry if u r offended. The only person I am prosecuting is the stupid flea market dude.
And that is really who everyone else is prosecuting too
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You've had teeth trimmed? o_o That frightens me.

Those poor babies! I agree you need to get them to a vet with glider experience and get them on a proper diet.

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<br />I can't read this thread, it just makes me cringe with pain.

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<br />imagine it this way.... We go to the denist and have to get teeth trimmed and pulled out etc. And the doctors give us pain meds.... I am pretty sure a little baby glider can barely tolerate that without any meds!!! I am sorry if u r offended. The only person I am prosecuting is the stupid flea market dude.
And that is really who everyone else is prosecuting too
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You've had teeth trimmed? o_o That frightens me.

Lol at least not exactly how the "flea market dude" did it to the gliders lol

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Lol at least not exactly how the "flea market dude" did it to the gliders lol

Private message sent, please check you messages Tara....

there wasn't ONE person that attacked the original poster here either, for the record. Not one. We're disgusted with the guy at the flea market that should be reported!