It looks like you got the same info from both sites.

So this is odd. Your husband actually witnessed the lower teeth trimming happening, yet the vet didn't find anything? I'm not trying to poke holes, just trying to understand this. I cant imagine using a clipper on my sugar gliders bottom teeth without doing some noticeable damage to them. I wonder what's going on with this?

I sure would like to see some close up photos of this if you can ever manage. I have never seen clipped teeth before.

So I am guessing that the goal of such an endeavor isnt to shorten the teeth, it is essentially to remove the tiny point so they cannot pierce skin as easily. So it is probably more akin to a filing/dulling that a trim.

Still sounds awfully painful to me unless you re a Ferengi .

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<br />The guy who trimmed their nails and teeth is apparently a complete idiot and probably sentenced your guys to a hard life. They aren't rodents, and their teeth do not grow-so by trimming them you have crippled them. I'm sorry to be rude, but this is why people need to research before they buy an animal. And I wouldn't trust a medical procedure to be done at a flea market. I would take them to an exotic vet right away to assess the damage. I am sure that they are in pain if he trimmed their teeth.

Did you get the gliders from a flea market? What diet are they on? You are probably going to have to give them a full liquid diet if they have no teeth. Your vet will know more than I will.

I'm usually very nice, and I'm sorry but this makes me mad. I am very glad that you came on here for information, but did you research before you got these guys? And please, a flea market? I get buying things from there, but you shouldn't have a procedure like this done by anyone but a vet or yourself. Also, you shouldn't let your gliders outside unless they are firmly secured in a pouch. They can and will run away-and then they have to face the elements, finding food, and becoming food.
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I think you missed the part where she said she only took them to get their nails trimmed and that he took it upon himself to trim the teeth. So it's not very nice of you to tell her that she crippled them.

She rescued them from a bad situation and she is here to get as much information as she can so why don't you just help her with that instead of being rude.
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I think you also missed the part where she apologized.

The vet said that she may have retracted her teeth as he was trying to clip them and he may not have actually got to them. My husband told her he's positive that he did it. She is still able to bite b/c she has bitten me 4 times though she did not bring blood. I want to try to take some pics and post up to get some other opinions b/c I'm sure there are people on here who have seen trimmed or filed teeth and I'm not positive of what they should look like. It's just that she's not used to us yet and I'm afraid that she will think I'm torturing her if I do.

Now, if I attempt to try this, should I hold her back with a hand towel and push upward on her lower jaw? I seen the pics the other person posted but I'm not for sure if I understood exactly how to do it without hurting her. The vet did it fine but I wasn't standing over her shoulder watching.
My DH said said the same thing you did, that maybe he trimmed the tiny sharp point off and it's not noticeable.
It's just an awful situation and I hope that someone sees this that didn't know and never lets anyone who appears to be knowledgable still not touch their babies. I have even read horror stories on here and other sites about VET TECH's breaking their jaws and causing harm. It's awful!! My heart goes out to all these little helpless babies. They are wild animals who learn to trust us and I just want to do best by mine from now on.
I made the mistake of trusting someone else but it won't happen again b/c even though she ended up to be fine, it was torture enough to my family not knowing.

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Didn't know they had retractable teeth.

Well wouldn't that be what they do? When they pop out or go in? Anyway, are you trying to be a smart elic or what? I don't understand your comments. That is what the vet said, she showed me a diagram of what her teeth should look like compared to gliders with damaged teeth and said that her teeth looked fine and antibiotics were not needed but she would reassess her closely when I bring them in for their wellness visit.

Guys seriously, I get it okay. Yes I felt attacked at first by some of the comments. I felt like I wasn't getting any useful info. I got most of the info I needed through private messages but it's fine. I have no hard feelings against anyone and I understand why everyone was so upset. From my original post you would think that I was just somebody who obtained a couple gliders, not knowing a darn thing about them at all, and let some flea market booth guy do what he wanted. That wasn't the situation and that's been clarified. There's no need for bickering or picking. I did recieve an apology from more than one person and I appreciate it. I completely understand how I came off originally and I understand why people would get upset. I'm new to this forum and like the lady said before, she assumed I was somebody who looked at how cute they are, said I want em' and didn't know anything. I completely understand and there shouldn't be any hard feelings against anyone. Everyone part of this forum is on here to learn and share their experiences to help one another to give these babies a good life. I did not once disregard anyone's comment just b/c of the tone it was written in. I'm not upset, I'm not mad, and I hope everyone can just get over it and move on. The most important thing is Macy is fine and I have learned a valuable lesson for my continued journey of care for them.
I have done nothing but continue researching because even though I did so much before, it seems that the information is endless and I want to know as much as I possibly can.

So again, can someone explain the proper & safe technique in detail how I could try to take pics of her teeth and I will post them on here.

Their teeth shouldn't pop in and out. They are not retractable,they're fixed.

Okay, so the vet examined her and told me this. Is my vet wrong? She is a glider experienced vet and all on the national lists. Also, in the pics the guy posted before of his glider, in the first pic his teeth were back in the gums and in the second he was trying to show me how to push up on the lower jaw to get them to come out....

I dont think he's pushing up on the lower jaw, I think he's pulled the gums back so you can see the tooth

The teeth are not retractable, but they do have retractable gums that cover the teeth when not in use which is probably what your vet meant.

Hey Taraclb,

I really apologize if you feel attacked.. I think everyone just gets really protecting over these animals that they love so much. Please continue to ask for help and support. I'd PM KAZKO.. he'd be great great resource.. also.. call Val WHENEVER you need something.. she's such great support and will help 24/7..

I have her # if you need it again..

Thanks,
Missy

Okay, thank you for clarifying that. I thought she meant that their teeth actually go back into their gums but if "Catman" knew that then why the sarcastic comments?? Why not just correct me??
Thank you Missy, I will def. contact you for that number if something comes up again (heaven forbid). I have heard alot of great things about her. :0)

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<br />Okay, thank you for clarifying that. I thought she meant that their teeth actually go back into their gums but if "Catman" knew that then why the sarcastic comments?? Why not just correct me??
Thank you Missy, I will def. contact you for that number if something comes up again (heaven forbid). I have heard alot of great things about her. :0)
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no problem at all. I sent you a PM as well.

Maybe he didn't know that...I didn't.

Good point. :0)

I am not sure if you got the answer you were looking for yet or not but If I wanted to look at my babies' teeth I would put them on my shirt, lay my hand over them with my palm on their back then put my thumb under their tummy and flip them over. She should hold on to your thumb when you do it. Pet her head with your other hand and talk to her the whole time.. keep telling her everything is ok. Then when she is calm, use the hand you are petting her head with and pull her bottom lip down. I would have my husband or a friend take the picture. You may be able to pull her lip down with the thumb that is on her belly/chest but my thumb is short so I am not sure if I could do that but if you can then you could take the picture with your other hand (the petting her head hand) Try to do this during the day time when she is sleepy. Don't worry about getting the picture the first time.. worry about keeping her calm and comfy. It may take a few trys but you will be helping her bond doing this. You could give her a treat in this hold so she is calm and intersted in the treat.. you could also put her in a built in bra in your shirt and wait until she falls asleep .. then she may not even notice you pulling her lip down. I hope this helps hun.

Thank you so much. I tried earlier and I was able to see her teeth but I wasn't able to take a pic b/c she was squirming and trying to get away. I didn't try to soothe her while doing it although I did quietly ssshhhh her like I do when she crabs or tries to bite. My husband is at work so I think this will be something he will have to help me with. Thanks again though!!

No problem girl! Just take your time and don't stress yourself or her out over it. If she is acting normal and the vet says she checks out well, then I wouldn't worry anymore. I would def like to see a picture, just to see if it looks the same as my babies teeth but you bonding with her is more important. Her teeth aren't going to change so it is not something you have to rush at all. I would love to just see them though! You should make a bragging post and show off their cute selves <3

Since you just acquired them,they were neglected and the vet said they were OK, I would just leave them alone for a few days.

But I also wouldn't let some dude at a flea market touch anything I own.

Yeah I can get a little sarcastic

Are retractable gums the same thing as lips?

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<br />Since you just acquired them,they were neglected and the vet said they were OK, I would just leave them alone for a few days.

But I also wouldn't let some dude at a flea market touch anything I own.

Yeah I can get a little sarcastic

Are retractable gums the same thing as lips?




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No, check out the pictures on the page to see how the gums retract from the teeth.

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Oh for Pete's sake..Who would have thunk it????????

Taraclb, please try not to get offended, the people on this site can be very blunt, but it is only because they are concerned for sugar gliders and want only the best for them. a lot of times if someone comes on here who does not seem to have done enough research before purchasing their gliders, members get upset because we know what a serious commitment it is to have them and that they are not like most pets and require tons of research and knowledge prior to buying them. So, that being said, I do not mean that you do not have enough knowledge, only that many people here would agree most glider-knowledgeable owners would not go near a flea market with their pets and would say no if a man in a booth said he could trim their nails. so please dont think we are all rude and sarcastic, we just sometimes get frustrated and worried.

also remember it is hard to read something someone wrote and know exactly how they meant it. you may be reading something blunt and taking it as an attack when it is just a statement.

we are all here to help so please do not let this incident keep you from this community. it is very important to ask questions and continue your research.

From GC angelic4296


"Thank you Tara for posting here, I'm glad you came here, the people on the other forum weren't addressing the issue at hand..."


Posted here within minutes of the original post.

"I would take them to an exotic vet right away to assess the damage. I am sure that they are in pain if he trimmed their teeth."
"First make an appointment with a Glider knowledgable Vet to get those gliders examined."
"Where do you live? If one of us is near you maybe they know of a vet or can help you out in another way."
"Please get them to an exoctic vet ASAP."
"Yes, please get them to a glider knowledgeable vet as soon as humanly possible."


angelic4296, what issue at hand wasn't addressed?

angelic4296 what was wrong with the information given here?

I'd like to know that too. The information given on the "other forum" is the exact same information that given here.

If you read the earlier posts, she did not take them to a flea market dude! It was a Gliders R Us, so she and anyone would assume that he was knowledgeable and capable of "trimming" thier nails! So its not like she just took them to a random pet booth!
She has very politely asked everyone to drop the arguments on what happened and focus on what to do next, so I think we should all respect that and focus on helping and giving her(a new suggie mom) a good experience here!

The topic of the thread- TEETH TRIMMED!!... now what? is the main reason for the first bunch of responses.

How is saying to take the gliders to a knowledgable vet to assess the poor gliders condition an attack? or even a bad response?


I am glad that the vet could find no damage. I hope that these gliders live a long and happy life.

Anyone selling gliders as an impulse buy, like at a flea market, is doing a major disservice to the animals. And the real cause for all this trouble.

Catman, since you sent me both a private message on here and on GC linking me to this thread (thanks by the way, I'll fully aware of where the thread was located), I have no problem posting MY ENTIRE post over on GC. Here it is:

"Thank you Tara for posting here, I'm glad you came here, the people on the other forum weren't addressing the issue at hand...

I sent you a message on what to feed, you got that, I sent you another one on pushing fluids with a medicine dropper, she HAS to stay hydrated...you have my phone number, please call at any hour, I'll have my phone next to my bed...I also sent you a vet in Bowling Green, where you live, but I asked Connie to send that list above so you could find somewhere open or who recommends an emergency clinic...please get her to a vet tonight, he may have hit a nerve in the tooth or gotten down to the root and like I said even AIR hitting that root is excruciatingly painful, so she very well could need pain meds...."


End of post.

All of the rest of what you quoted above which makes it look like or implies that I said all of that too, was NOT ME, although I did privately tell her to get to a an emergency vet ASAP. My reason for saying what I did has to do with the BEGINNING of this post, which when I posted that over on GC. This post was only on the first page still, maybe a little bit onto the second page, and people were coming down hard on Tara and NOT telling her what to actually do about the teeth issue (maybe with the exception of a handful of posts). Have people NOW that the thread has gone on given more useful advice? Absolutely they have. Especially the post with the pictures of the teeth, also not present when I posted on GC. If you look back at this thread, with the exception of a few posts, most of the posts were either "I'm so sorry that happened, that's awful" types of posts (which are totally fine, I felt awful too) or posts nailing Tara to the cross for "allowing" it to happen (which people have apologized for and that's really nice of them).

I was ASKED to come onto this thread and get ahold of Tara by another member who had my phone number. That member texted me an emergency text saying please come help, her gliders teeth got trimmed and people aren't being nice on the thread, so could you come help her. I really don't visit here often, but I came onto the thread, privately messaged Tara with advice, vet name and number, and my phone number, and told her that if she felt she was being attacked on here, to post over on GC, where I knew people wouldn't judge and be more about addressing the issue at hand because at that moment, that's all that was needed FOR THE SAKE OF THE GLIDERS.

Like I said, this thread didn't start off so well and that's where my post on GC came from. People have apologized (and I can even understand because we ARE all passionate about gliders, I've had them for 6 years and adore them) and the good advice on here came LATER in the thread.

So Catman, instead of trying to stir the pot and make things look alot worse than they actually are, why don't try giving good legit advice beyond your catty comment about you not being aware that gliders teeth are retractable. Where was YOUR good advice in all of this, beyond posting a quote from me and making a smart alec comment?

By the way, if you look at my last post before these two, it was at 9:50pm that night....I posted that post on GC at 11:18pm...Kazko's post, which was about the beginning of the helpful part of the post (and that post was an extremely good one with pictures) was I think around 12:11am....so before my post at 9:50pm telling Tara to check her private messages, you'll see that alot of the post was Tara having to explain herself over and over and explain about her son having an interest in them and NOT the kinds of posts that started with Kazko at 12:11am, FOR THE MOST PART. Catman, honestly, stop.