angelic4296 its the same thing on GC. Most of the responses on the first page <b>here</b> say go to a vet, the first was 7 minutes after Taraclb posted.Give me a break!

Its pretty crappy to come on here and send PM's telling them to go to another site(a little sneaky?). And then bitch about the info over there(GC).Classic!
You could have posted the info public so everyone could see it.

"Private message sent, please check you messages Tara...."
and
"Check your messages again..."


What are they looking for a <i>another</i> mod on GC?

i actually think this site is a lot nicer than gc normally. also i hate the rules there especially that you cant talk bad about mill breeders (even though mill breeders talk bad about these sites!)

this site has been the most helpful to me and i have felt the least "attacked" here. but thats just in my experience. I think everyone just jumped on her because most people know not to take a glider to a flea market for anything, especially not something a vet could and should do.

Um, you're being a little dramatic and once again, trying to create a problem where there is no problem to be created. I think you must enjoy this and be a bit bored with yourself to spend your time doing this.

I wouldn't call me saying that people weren't "addressing the issue at hand" bitching. It was one sentence, a statement. Bitching is going on and on about something, making deragatory comments, and/or complaining alot. That's not near what I said/did. This is exactly what I mean about you liking to cause trouble and stir the pot, even exaggerating things/statements at times (i.e. saying I was "bitching" with my single pretty neutral sentence that I wrote - the sentence didn't say anything negative or personal about any member here, it was just a statement, and you exaggerated it with the word "bitching"). It's pretty immature.

While people on here did say to go to a vet, there were still other issues that needed to be addressed in the meantime while trying to find a vet to go to (keeping her warm and hydrated being one of them and making sure she didn't SM from pain). The point of my private posts to her was 2% telling her to go to GC if she felt attacked on here (it was literally 2 sentences I think telling her to register and post in the Emergency Forum for quick responses) and 98% other information about the problem with the teeth. The point of my messages to her was NOT to tell her to go to another forum. Not that my private messages are ANY of YOUR business AT ALL, but some of what I addressed with her privately included:

- Looking for a vet specifically in Bowling Green, KY, where she lives, which I did find for her and included in the message
- the fact that they'd need a soft, pureed diet, that she could blend up the fruits and veggies and obviously if she was feeding something like HPW or BML, that was already liquid.
- that if she DIDN'T have HPW/BML/Blended etc.., that babyfood would be a good alternative
- not to feed them any pellets
- keeping her hydrated because Tara stated she didn't seem to want to eat or drink.
- Advised HOW to do that: getting a medicine dropper that you'd give an infant medicine with and giving unflavored Pedialyte or even diluted apple juice for flavor one drop at a time to avoid aspiration in order to keep her hydrated
- keeping her warm by keeping her on Tara's body
- locating an emergency vet in the event her regular vet was not open

Let me say again, I was texted by someone else and ASKED to contact Tara and offer help, which is exactly what I did. Plus, I knew over on GC Connie would be able to give her a full list of vets in KY. I had contacted Connie myself by text and asked HER to go to GC with that list and the list of consulting vets as well. I am not as familar with this forum, so I wasn't sure if a list like that existed on here and where I could find that list on here to give her.

Catman, as has been said, the issue has been dropped by everyone, including Tara. Good advice has been given, apologies were nicely made, Tara got the appropriate help, everyone but you has moved on. Tara is doing a good job caring for these little girls. Some people might think it's fun or even exciting to engage in a back-and-forth debate with you. I'm not one of those people. I had nothing to hide, which is why I posted my ENTIRE post from GC, not just the part that you so convienently wanted to show.

You're starting to make yourself look a little silly because it seems that all you want to do is carry this thread on and stir the pot by posting quotes from other forums and trying to call people out on being "sneaky" when really that was the LAST of my intentions. My intentions were to do what I was asked to do - contact Tara and offer her help and advice. That's what I did.

Again, where was your good advice in this entire thread? All I see is you causing trouble, and quite honestly, it seems to be a pattern for you because I've seen you do this several times before. Have a good night.

wow really , first off I am the one who told her to go there , because you all were rude and not really helping her with what she needed help with , just going around some flea market dude , that wasnt the point of her post , every one was nicer on gc and didnt say any of the things any of you started out saying before you started helping her ,and saying sorry , you should of help her so you didnt have to say sorry later on , even how much you love your gliders shouldnt make you be so rude to a new person your here to help not judge and that what i see mainly going on ,on gg .catman if you read the gc post you wouldnt have try calling angelic4296 out for something she didnt do you read under her me who said they were being rude first off , just like your acting like a little spoil brat making trouble that why I told her go to other site if made her feel better and not upset that she wasnt getting help . No one like a smart ass Catman , thank god I stay off this site , my last post here !!

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<br />wow really , first off I am the one who told her to go there , because you all were rude and not really helping her with what she needed help with , just going around some flea market dude , that wasnt the point of her post , every one was nicer on gc and didnt say any of the things any of you started out saying before you started helping her ,and saying sorry , you should of help her so you didnt have to say sorry later on , even how much you love your gliders shouldnt make you be so rude to a new person your here to help not judge and that what i see mainly going on ,on gg .catman if you read the gc post you wouldnt have try calling angelic4296 out for something she didnt do you read under her me who said they were being rude first off , just like your acting like a little spoil brat making trouble that why I told her go to other site if made her feel better and not upset that she wasnt getting help . No one like a smart ass Catman , thank god I stay off this site , my last post here !!
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NO ONE WAS RUDE. If you thought people were being rude, then you have thinner skin than you thought. The people who weren't helping had no idea what to say from either shock or lack of knowledge.

Lots of people like smart asses btw.

Catman is what he is. He is himself, doesnt put on a fake charm or persona and is direct from what I have seen him post. You cant see our faces behind the computer but its not always bad. Read whats written, dont try to read into it or interpret it.
Most importantly to me is how is this glider doing????

This thread just needs to be locked. It's gotten way out of control.

Y'all are grown adults.. act that way.

I would be soo mad..that i would have gone back n thrown a show in the guys shop...he would have prob had to call the cops on me..... Im sooo sorry this happened to you n ur gliders and im sooo glad ur on this site to get as much help as you can... :)

Threads here don't just get randomly locked because people don't like it...that IS GC. Everyone, however, has the choice to quit responding and for the ones that hate it here, that's exactly why there are multiple forums.

For the record, I also gave vet info. I wasn't focused on ANYTHING else until that baby was seen.

Sorry Kyro..

I am the admin/owner on a car forum and a moderator on another. When things get out of hand they should be locked. It calms people down because then they can't respond to the post anymore and eventually have to let go.

If no threads ever get locked around here it's no wonder everyone is so crabby and sarcastic all the time.

Honestly on any other forum I'm on catman would have been given a day or two ban from the site for stirring up so much trouble.

It doesn't matter if she posted on another glider forum. She has that right. And it doesn't matter if another member there said that this site wasn't giving the right info. That's her opinion. It is not ok to do what catman did. Gotta learn to let things go.

If threads were locked everytime there was an argument that would just limit free speech. Even the regulars on here get in little tiffs on occasion. This board is great for the reason that it is so open, and people don't have to censor eveything they say, which can actually be a good thing. This allows some usually heated subjects that are hush hush on other forums to be discussed in detail on here (such as mill breeders, diets, ect.).

I don't think anyone is crabby or sarcastic all of the time. There are people who are very opinionated, myself included, but not malicious or mean. Some people are just what they are. If someone is being overly harrassing or mean or trolling then yes by all means contact Kazko and let him know. I know a few weeks ago we had a guy who was harrassing everyone and cursing and just being obnoxious. Enough people reported his behavior and something was done about it.

While I agree with some of what you said.

I still believe that while forums are for discussion and sometime heated debates. This is not a heated debate. Catman went so far as to follow another member to another forum and bring their convo here as well as PM'ing which is uncalled for.

I don't think that sensitive topics like mill breeders, diets, etc should be censored. But when things get like this something needs to be done.

And honestly, while I've found a lot of information on here, and my gliders have benefited from it. I don't post very much because I do find that guys come off rather harsh sometimes.

Yes the gliders are like babies/family to you (and me) but doesn't mean that someone should be yelled at for not knowing something when they are a newbie to something (not saying this is the case all the time, but I've seen it more than I am comfortable with)

vhenke- like I said, <b>7 MINUTES </b> after Taraclb posted she was told by filly47 to take them to a vet. She also apologized for being rude in her first post twice.I didn't think she was rude, a little blunt but not rude. Within an hour she was told multiple times to go to the VET, THAT was the issue at hand and NOTHING anyone said can address the problem but a VET!
angelic4296- Its also irresponsible to tell some one " I sent you another one on pushing fluids with a medicine dropper, she HAS to stay hydrated..." to someone new to gliders and obviously cant even trim the nails. The only advise should have been go to a VET!What business was it of yours to come here and question the advice given here?

This site has been around for a log time and helped 1000's of people. I'm still trying to figure out why some people think its their "job" or "business" to direct people away for here and to a different site.

asherby85 ohhhhh I see!! "Catman went so far as to follow another member to another forum and bring their convo here as well as PM'ing which is uncalled for." Uhhhh this convo started here at GG and some people thought bringing it to another site using PM's was appropriate? Uncalled for?

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asherby85 ohhhhh I see!! "Catman went so far as to follow another member to another forum and bring their convo here as well as PM'ing which is uncalled for." Uhhhh this convo started here at GG and some people thought bringing it to another site using PM's was appropriate? Uncalled for?



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You made it seem as though taraclb went to another site and created a topic there to get information. Is that not the case?

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asherby85 ohhhhh I see!! "Catman went so far as to follow another member to another forum and bring their convo here as well as PM'ing which is uncalled for." Uhhhh this convo started here at GG and some people thought bringing it to another site using PM's was appropriate? Uncalled for?



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You made it seem as though taraclb went to another site and created a topic there to get information. Is that not the case?
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Didn't you just say that this thread has gotten way out of control and needs to be locked and then say "Y'all are grown adults.. act that way."

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asherby85 ohhhhh I see!! "Catman went so far as to follow another member to another forum and bring their convo here as well as PM'ing which is uncalled for." Uhhhh this convo started here at GG and some people thought bringing it to another site using PM's was appropriate? Uncalled for?



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You made it seem as though taraclb went to another site and created a topic there to get information. Is that not the case?
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Didn't you just say that this thread has gotten way out of control and needs to be locked and then say "Y'all are grown adults.. act that way."
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I'm acting like an adult. I'm just asking a question. I'm not going off on anyone. Starting fights. Acting rudely. Or being sarcastic such as yourself.

Thank you

I understand the whole Flea Market thing. I understand everything that everyone has said. The guy has a standing business there & has had it for several years specializing in Gliders. I just went there to buy pouches b/c you can't get them anywhere around here. The pouch that I recieved with the girls was not an appropriate bonding pouch and I felt wasn't safe, on top of that it was FILTHY! I hated for them to have to stay in it. But the last people were using it for a sleeping pouch, bonding pouch, etc. It was awful! The people at the booth seemed VERY knowledgable and since I have been to that booth SEVERAL times before to play with the gliders (although I never bought any, I rescued mine), I trusted him to cut their nails. Their vet visit wasn't for almost 2 weeks and I couldn't bear them to have to put up with those awful nails. They were horrible but I didn't want to attempt to clip them myself and them associate me right off the bat with something negative. I ASSUMED (and yes I know assume makes an ass outta you and me) that the guy, being a glider breeder) knew that don't trim teeth. I didn't think that was something you would ever have to address out of a vet situation since everything I had read about it was saying "Don't let your vet-tech or vet ever trim or file teeth".

The thing is, Macy is fine. (Like I said before) Yes I am knew at this but I'm not completely ignorant and being since these animals are "wild" and don't belong in captivity in the first place (but now that they are here, it is our jobs to take care of them), I have done tons of research & have learned that you can NEVER research enough. There are so many opinions, ideas, etc. I have seen people admit (that have owned gliders for yrs & yrs) that they are still learning. I appreciate this forum & the other. I have joined both b/c I have realized that alot of information comes mostly from experience and it is nice to be able to relate to someone else to try & figure out what is best for my gliders as individuals. This shouldn't be a battle between GG & GC. Both forums have provided me with adequate information and like I stated before, yes I had people from both forums telling me to take her to a vet but I felt like I was at a loss b/c my vet had told me she would be fine as long as the root wasn't exposed. The closest vet besides her is in Nashville and yes I would drive to Nashville to take her if I had to, but I was also concerned with her not eating or drinking in the mean time while I was trying to figure out where a 24- emergency vet was in my area.

I respect everyone's opinons and help from here & there and the most important thing is, Macy is doing perfectly fine now and we can all take something away from this & maybe help someone in the future who is faced with a similar situation. As long as mill breeders are set up selling and conning people, and people are not fully informed (including breeders who think it's okay to trim teeth) these situations unfortunately are going to happen. It's sad but everyone knows it's true. Hopefully, people who read this forum will take something away from it and not let the same thing happen to their glider. There can be something positive out of this whole situation & luckily for Macy, there are more than 1 positives.

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asherby85 ohhhhh I see!! "Catman went so far as to follow another member to another forum and bring their convo here as well as PM'ing which is uncalled for." Uhhhh this convo started here at GG and some people thought bringing it to another site using PM's was appropriate? Uncalled for?



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I'm acting like an adult. I'm just asking a question. I'm not going off on anyone. Starting fights. Acting rudely. Or being sarcastic such as yourself.

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I wasn't being sarcastic, I was asking a question. It doesn't seem like you're acting like an adult to me, you continue to comment on every thing after saying you want this to come to an end. If you really want this to stop, you'd stop commenting.

Taraclb a lot of people are members of both sites(me included), not to mention a ton of other glider related sites. Im not sure how you can say,"This shouldn't be a battle between GG & GC." When there is a link to GC on GG's home page http://www.sugarglider.com/ .

Tara, if you've received the info you needed, that is really all that matters in this entire situation. I don't think either Catman or Angelic were "wrong" for carrying anything over from any forum. Everyone has that right. I sent Tara a pm also. Big deal.

I will also say I see nothing wrong with directing someone somewhere else they feel they can truly get better info. HOWEVER, if you're going to do that, at least bring the helpful info back over so when someone does a search for "trimmed teeth" HERE in the future, this thread will actually HAVE that helpful info as well. I also think it's the whole "that OTHER forum basically sucks" attitude when posting on GC is what rubs people the wrong way. Some of the same people that direct people away from here for "better" info on GC are the same people that bitch about GC on yet other forums. THAT is what gets me.

If you want to be HERE and contribute helpful info, awesome. In the past, I've asked people on other forums to quit bitching about all the newbies and bad info here if they're not going to come help and contribute to the problem. If you don't like it here, however, then don't be here. That would solve your problem.

GC is too strict and has too many rules, GG is too liberal and doesn't have enough, TSS is not social enough, is too harsh, blah, blah, blah.... It isn't about which forum is run better.

Again, if you want this thread to be done, quit responding. Some of the people posting about how "rude" people here were, were equally as rude! Tara got help no matter WHERE it was or how she got the info. So, if you want to argue about forums and how they should be run, you have the freedom ON THIS FORUM, to start your own discussion about it. Let's at least try to keep this one on topic for future searchers.

By the way, I'm a member of at least 6 different glider forums...MOST of us are members of multiple.

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<br />Taraclb a lot of people are members of both sites(me included), not to mention a ton of other glider related sites. Im not sure how you can say,"This shouldn't be a battle between GG & GC." When there is a link to GC on GG's home page http://www.sugarglider.com/ .
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I wasn't aware of that, so there really is no issue.

I have gotten alot of information from both and respect what anyone has to say. I will continue to post on both forums for advice, etc. You can't please everyone & I have noticed from other people's posts (on different topics) that some might agree, some might not. It's important to take all views into consideration and not have tunnel vision for the sake of the gliders.

Haha Catman I had to laugh at you saying it's irresponsible to tell someone to push fluids. Seriously? First of all, I gave her explicit instructions on how to do it...one drop at a time with a baby medicine dropper with unflavored Pedialyte or diluted apple juice. What was she supposed to do while she was trying to locate a vet, let the glider get dehydrated and then have an even bigger issue on her hands? She said the glider did not want to eat or drink, and we tell people, newbies and veterans alike ALL THE TIME, that their glider HAS to stay hydrated and fluids NEED to be given. It's one of the most basic rules out there when it comes to gliders. NOT telling her to keep the glider hydrated would have been the irresponsible thing to do.

Second, your argument makes NO sense. LOTS of people, including veterans who have been doing this for years, have a hard time trimming nails. Lots of people get their vet to do it for them, or have a second person help. Trimming nails and giving fluids has nothing to do with eachother; they are two completely separate topics. Now, if I had told her to push fluids by sub-q'ing, THAT would have been irresponsible because if she has never even been trained to do by a vet, who am I to tell her to do it? But giving liquid one drop at a time with a medicine dropper was pretty basic. At some point, almost everyone who owns gliders will have the unfortunate experience of having to give fluids this way. Anytime a glider has a health problem, it's always one of the first pieces of advice given - make sure the glider stays hydrated and push fluids THE CORRECT WAY if you have to. By your argument, anyone new to gliders who hasn't owned them long or anyone who has difficulty trimming nails shouldn't be told to push fluids or taught how....are you really being serious??? Honestly??? A little silly, don't you think? Makes absolutely no sense.

Since you're soooo very interested in what I have to say, here is the private message I sent Tara. Read for yourself and you will see that you are making a massive deal out of NOTHING.

"Tara (I assume that's your name),
My name is Jessica, I'm the "glider buddy" that vhenke was talking about in her post. You have alot on your hands right now and I'm sorry about that. What happened to your little girls is AWFUL and CRUEL. When all of this is over, for the sake of other gliders that pass through that flea market, PLEASE go back to that guy's booth and tell him about not trimming teeth. They are NOT rodents, their teeth do not grow back. If he becomes indignant, threaten to call the SPCA on him...MAKE him listen.

If you feel you are being attacked in your thread, you can visit another forum. The forum is GliderCentral. Register there and post in the Emergency Forum (the first forum at the top of the page) about what's going on.

My concern is that your vet didn't examine the gliders to see if the root had been accessed at all. The root does not take much to get to, their teeth are tiny. The thing is, even if just AIR is hitting the root or nerve, it causes EXTREME pain. Like unbearable, self-mutilate pain. If I were you, I'd be hunting down an emergency clinic right now and just showing up. Get the address and phone number and just GO.

As for diet, you need to pick a good one. I use HPW (will be starting HPW Plus soon) and it's easy and fairly inexpensive. Click on the link vhenke posted in her post. You need to order the HPW powder and bee pollen online - order them from Snow Baby Gliders. She has fast shipping and great customer service. In the meantime, they do need a liquid diet forever now because of their teeth, so until you get the supplies for HPW Plus, I recommend chicken babyfood (it will say Chicken with Chicken Broth OR Chicken with Chicken Gravy, either is fine), yogurt, and blended up fruits and veggies (think fruit and veggie smoothies). They cannot eat solid food anymore and you can't let them starve obviously, so even if you need to find a 24-hour Walmart or Target tonight and get that stuff, you really need to. Pick up a few different kinds of fruit and a bag of mixed veggies (the corn, peas, greenbeans and carrots) and some bok choy for calcium and blend all the veggies together and then blend all the fruits together. Also serve them maybe half a jar of the babyfood and a tablespoon of yogurt, plus 2 tablespoon of fruit smoothie and 2 tablespoon of veggie smoothie (a tablespoon per glider).

My number is (number removed), feel free to call anytime, at any hour. I'm usually up til 3am or so with my gliders, so don't worry if it's late. Call me if you need some support."

End of post.

Now, do you see how big a deal you are making over absolutely nothing at all? This will be my last post in this thread unless Tara asks me to post something or needs help again as it has gone way off topic and quite honestly, I don't feel as though I should have to defend or explain what I said to you of ALL people. What you say means really nothing to me, especially since what you say makes no sense half the time and is just meant to try to pick apart my posts and what I said. I noticed you still haven't shown me anywhere in this thread where you gave legit solid advice or even through a PM. Your only role here has to been to antagonize and instigate trouble, which like I said is pretty much a pattern for you.

Kyro, I definitely don't think GG sucks; I wouldn't have registered in the first place and be a member here if I thought that. My intention throughout ALL of this has only been to get Tara the help she desparately needed. Yes, that called for getting them to a vet, but other things needed to be immediately addressed as well, which was what I gave her.

OK, I'm done, I have put everything out in the open, including my PM, which quite honestly, I shouldn't have been made to feel like I had to do in the first place. However, I just wanted people to see that there was no "bitching" about GG or "bashing" - it was a simple 2 sentences that if SHE felt as though SHE was being attacked, SHE could post on GC. I did not say "Oh Tara, get away from GG, it's terrible here."

Tara, if you need anything further, you have my number and support. Please keep us updated on how your babies are doing and PLEASE have your husband go back to that evil man and threaten him if he has to to make him NOT trim teeth anymore.....

Have a good day everyone.

He is going back this weekend to talk to the guy. I was thinking the same thing about pushing fluids and trimming nails. I am a nurse, emt, (which doesn't have alot to do with animals)and volunteered at a vet's office a few years ago. I saved 2 puppies from parvo that my parents were told by 2 different vets there was nothing that could be done. They are 7 y/o now and living happy, healthy lives. I am the person everyone brings their animal to when they don't know what to do. I rescued a baby deer from the side of the road after her mother was hit by a car, bottle fed her for 3 days until the game warden was able to find a place for her. I have pushed fluids intravenously in dogs & cats, I have pushed fluids with a syringe. I helped my dad save my little sister's horse's life. I have done a lot of things with animals that people obviously are not going to know about. I'm not ignorant. I simply did not want to make these gliders to think of me as a negative thing right off the bat. I was going to wait until their vet appt but the guy offered to do it. You cannot judge people's knowledge or lack there-of based on posts on these forums. These are words and like someone said before, you cannot see expressions or hear concern from someone unless they express that clearly in their writing.
So maybe now since this is cleared up, we can move on.

BTW- I am still keeping a close eye on Macy. I recieved a PM from someone who was concerned and like I told them, even though the vet gave her the ok, I realize they are good at hiding illnesses. She seems to be happy and doing good but I am still concerned that she may be having discomfort since I'm not completely sure that the guy didn't cut off a tiny bit. I'm just keeping a close eye on her, making sure she's eating okay, drinking okay, and playing normally. Thanks for the concern everyone. It makes me feel better knowing that I have people to turn to that have more experience with these little guys & gals.

I don't think anyone thinks you're ignorant. What WOULD have been ignorant, is NOT asking for help. You were not at fault here.

Tara! I am so glad she is doing well! That is great! I am also glad he is going to talk to him// he needs someone to tell him that it is not ok. <3

Yeah, he was going to go down there last Sunday but he was so ticked off I told him to give himself a week to cool down. We printed out some information and I told him to very kindly offer the man the information and to portray himself in a Christian manner. People are less likely to listen to you if you come across hateful b/c it's our natural instinct to become defensive. The most important thing is that the owner understand completely why it is not okay. I found several sites about teeth trimming/filing & why it is wrong to do that. I am praying that he realizes what he has done b/c chances are he has done it to every glider in his care that has bitten him & will continue to do that. You can't stop him from breeding but maybe that will prevent him from selling gliders that have had clipped teeth. I've realized now that every time we have ever played with his gliders, when they have bitten, they do not bring blood and it doesn't hurt so I'm thinking now that they all have clipped teeth. It's funny how you don't really pay attention to little details like that. He has them out on a table for everyone who walks by to pick up and play with as they like. It has to be part of the selling gimmick b/c who would want to buy a glider that bites hard & brings blood? I think it's another way of making quick cash w/o having to worry with trying to educate people on the "cons" of glider ownership.

I don't know.. my girls were on the table and they didn't bring blood and their teeth aren't clipped.. maybe it was just bc they were babies? But I did feel like something was off bc my crabby abby is very nervous of people besides me and she is very crabby with new people and I only heard her crab once the whole time we were there and that was when we were leaving. Honestly is seemed as if she was drugged or something =(

Maybe they do give those particular ones on display some sort of nerve medicine so they can tolerate being handled by so many different people. They seem to still be active there but I recently spoke to someone who also got their glider from him & they said their glider acted like a completely different boy after she got him and she had been eyeing the same one for a about a mnth. She knows it was the same one b/c it was albino & blind. But he was fine with her there and the next day, but the 2nd day she had him, he started acting really wild.