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Sep 20 2011
04:49:12 PM
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Anonymous</i>
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<br />Why did they get banned?

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Because CSG is crazy.
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I don't mean crazy like, "oohh I'm angry!"

I mean it like, "Today my name is going to be Sarah and I'm a whole new person with a whole new life, but tomorrow, tomorrow I'm going to be Kendra!"
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Sep 20 2011
05:15:09 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
csg was Megs06 for anyone interested. She has about a dozen forum names, literally. She was banned once, came back under a new username and was banned again. Anyone that gets banned is banned for a reason. I definitely don't want to turn this thread into anything other than a "grapes" thread but I'm just answering the question.
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Sep 21 2011
10:16:03 PM
Leenie Glider Visit Leenie's Photo Album 69 Posts
My guys like grapes. They dont get them often as the hubby eats them all on the poor babies lol
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Sep 22 2011
01:51:53 PM
THEHYLAND Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit THEHYLAND's Photo Album FL, USA 4774 Posts
<font color="green">When I first got mine I read up that on the grape issue. I found pros and cons. So the question is do I feed grapes to my babies. Yes once in a blue moon. I don't think once in a blue moon will cause life long kidney problems. Grapes are not part of thier normal diet.</font id="green">

http://www.sugar-gliders.com/glidervet-53.htm




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Sep 23 2011
07:16:10 AM
LuckyGlider Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit LuckyGlider's Photo Album LuckyGlider's Journal TX, USA 5266 Posts
OK so we have 79 in rescue and 15 pets. At capacity once again... Figured we'd share what we have learned and what we do...

It's actually a pretty simple decision because all you have to do is read some articles, take them to your vet and let the vet help you decide.

We read the ASPCA articles and poison control center articles on renal failure in dogs. We talked to our vet about it. She did some research on her own which was inconclusive, but she was alarmed about the number of deaths in dogs from grapes. (That is very real). She said it's not worth the risk so to avoid grapes. We took her word for it. This vet has a triple degrees including biochemistry and nutrition in addition to the DVM so I reckon she's pretty qualified to hand out that advice.

I don't call this a controversy really. It's just our standard operating procedure to ask our veterinarians for their advice if we are not sure of things. So you do a little research, take them a few articles, and see what they have to say. Then you decide. Simple.

Regarding "lactose intolerance" we've yet to find a glider that has adverse reactions to small amounts of cheese or cottage cheese, but we do not feed it in large quantities. Not sure where the rumor of "lactose intolerance" came from anyway. I think that's more internet suggie lore than anything else. Considering how long they nurse both in-pouch and out, it is not very logical to think milk byproducts (yeah - suggies are not cows) would hurt them.

Ditto citrus or tomatoes. Don't know where the advice came from to steer clear of those either. We use orange juice as part of the LGRS suggie soup and that recipe has been successful in nursing a lot of sick gliders back to health over the years. Cherry tomatoes are a favorite of most of the rescues. They get them along with other foods once or twice a week alongside the soup. But we rotate all different fruits, veggies, yogurt, cheese and meats as side dishes with great variety.

Truly the best advice we can offer is to present diets, along with their published nutritional analysis, to your vet - or to even several vets - to get their opinions. Then decide.


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Sep 24 2011
10:23:24 AM
roxiesmomma Super Glider GliderMap Visit roxiesmomma's Photo Album 389 Posts
Thank you luckyglider!
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Sep 24 2011
10:25:12 AM
sjones5254 Goofy Gorillatoes Visit sjones5254's Photo Album SC, USA 2415 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by roxiesmomma</i>
<br />Thank you luckyglider!
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yes thank you ed
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Sep 26 2011
12:15:49 AM
tatlsmom Joey Visit tatlsmom's Photo Album 49 Posts
Tatl, my new little one got a few pieces of grape before I read this thread. Still dont see to much of a problem in letting her have some so long as its not a regular part of her diet, but I personally LOVE grapes lol. Green ones, I refuse to eat the reds so theres no worry there xD I thought the reason for tomatoes being a non would have been the seeds, so I made hubby gut one before giving it to Tatl and she gobbled it right up. Glad some to know people are looking into this kinda thing to find out the truth. I think I'll keep the grapes for now :)
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Sep 26 2011
04:36:01 AM
Konotashi Super Glider Konotashi's Journal 271 Posts
If the main concern for not feeding grapes is the fact it can kill dogs, what about eucalyptus? Is that not fatally toxic to most animals, besides koalas and gliders? Gliders seem to love euc, despite its toxicity content.
It doesn't really seem like a good idea to feed or not to feed gliders a certain food based on how it affects other animals. Yes, it's a good thought in theory, but different species can and can't handle certain things.
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Sep 26 2011
08:33:02 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Again, that is why the info is there...for people to read and make their own decision. I will also keep repeating that you cannot prove grapes are negatively affecting their health any more than you can. Some don't care for the risk and I don't think anyone should tell them they are wrong for that. The eucalyptus can be in a separate thread if anyone would like to discuss it.

Edited by - kyro298 on Sep 26 2011 08:35:04 AM
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Sep 26 2011
08:53:28 AM
SugarLoafin Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit SugarLoafin's Photo Album CO, USA 1755 Posts
In the big picture are they going to really miss grapes? Probably not. Some of us just choose to not even risk it. I have given my girls 1 each in their 8 months of life. I don't know if I will feed them again or not. They are definitely not a fruit I would put into their rotation. To each their own with the unknown risks they are willing to take. The information is offered so we can make educated choices.
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