Gathering info on this diet!! What fruits and veggies can be fed with it. Who's sugar gliders are o it? Do you like it??

Most importantly! Links links links!! And where could I buy it from?

The babies are eating their hpw complete very good. But I would like to know more about this one =) thanks ! All!!

Sellers
http://www.etsy.com/listing/84373237/lgrs-powder-pack-with-trader-darwins-soy
http://www.etsy.com/listing/84812193/lgrs-powder-pack-with-trader-darwins-soy
http://marsupialmadness.com/?page_id=1203#ecwid:category=907110&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal
Poll
http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=38355
Recipe
http://files.meetup.com/768852/LGRS%20Suggie%20Soup.pdf
Background
http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25960

Ps.I love it.

Thanks!!

LGRS has an overall balanced Ca:Ph ratio so it allows for more variety. All fruits and veggies can be fed alongside it but remember that a little goes a long way. The recipe also has a few relishes that LGRS recommends.

I might switch the babies over to it after I use this last batch of hpw complete. Thanks for info!

We feed it too...for 2 years now.

P.S. at the bottom of page six of the "backgrounder" link Miss Vicious kindly posted above, there is a sample side dish rotation:

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LuckyGlider</i>
<br />I borrowed this from another post to update this one. Below is a "rotation" that might work for you...

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<br />...it says to offer fruits veggies and meat on the side. im just used to offering fruits and veggies, so do you just use like turkey or chicken (no seasonings, oil, etc) along with fruits and veggies? so every nght, each glider gets 2tbs suggie soup, 1 tbs fruit, 1tbs veggies, and 1tbs meat? ...
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Great question. OK. let's establish first what meats are OK to feed:
1. Chicken, boiled or baked, no skin. Or canned with water or frozen and no preservatives
2. Turkey as in the same as chicken above
3. Lean, cooked hamburger.
4. Although technically not "meat" you can feed scrambled eggs

The problem with meat is each one of these is upside-down Ca:P-wise so you have to offset the phosphorus with calcium powder. The best D3-fortified stuff is Flukers brand because it mixes better than Repcal because it is a much finer powder. A pinch (1/8th of a teaspoon) is enough to spread out over 8 - 10 servings of meat. D3 helps in metabolizing the calcium so be sure to get the kind with D3 in it.

There are a couple of ways to feed meats.

One way is to just dice it up and serve it alongside the mixture of fruits and veggies.

Another way is to blend it with fruits or veggies that your gliders don't like. They are more likely to eat the fruits and veggies they don't like when you blend the meat in. In fact you can make little "meat balls" and bake them if you want. They will love it.

It's always a good idea to rotate the side dishes.

For example:

Sunday...
Orange Slices, Halved cherry tomatoes, diced cucumber and diced chicken (cooked) (add calcium)

Monday...
A plop of cottage cheese, watermelon, papaya chunks (8 parts), and corn (one part).

Tuesday...
Diced chicken (cooked), melon, broccoli, peas, and a plop of yogurt (add Calcium)

Wednesday...
Lean hamburger (cooked), mixed into a meatloaf with corn, peas, and berries on the side. (add calcium)

Thursday...
Scrambled eggs with green peppers, strawberries, and cucumber, and a few tiny pieces of plain cheese (add calcium)

Friday...
Turkey chunks with a medley of papaya, watermelon, and corn on the side (add calcium)

Saturday...
A plop of yogurt, cooked lean hamburger meatballs (tiny), apple and cherry tomatoes cut in half. (add calcium)

You can go here to resources/nutrition to try out the recipe calculator to play with the portions so you can see how changing the amount of one item vs. another will change the Ca:P ratio. As implied above, you can always "rightsize" the calcium by adding a tiny pinch of Flukers across multiple servings.

P.S. Most gliders are not lactose intolerant. They nurse for 15 weeks out of pouch and 70 days in-pouch so milk is not poison to them. Just don't over-do it on the cheese. Note how during a whole week there is one plop of cottage cheese and a few pieces of plain cheese.

P.P.S. Yes, they can have citrus and tomatoes. They love tomatoes in general. Just don't overdo it. The orange juice in the soup also has citrus for example.

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We feed LGRS... and they love it. So do I. I think it's the easiest diet out there. For me at least.

i absolutly love this menu i deffently going to start feeding my guys this menu for now on!! its great and seems pretty easy!!

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LuckyGlider</i>
<br />P.S. at the bottom of page six of the "backgrounder" link Miss Vicious kindly posted above, there is a sample side dish rotation:

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LuckyGlider</i>
<br />I borrowed this from another post to update this one. Below is a "rotation" that might work for you...

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by misscarl</i>
<br />...it says to offer fruits veggies and meat on the side. im just used to offering fruits and veggies, so do you just use like turkey or chicken (no seasonings, oil, etc) along with fruits and veggies? so every nght, each glider gets 2tbs suggie soup, 1 tbs fruit, 1tbs veggies, and 1tbs meat? ...
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Great question. OK. let's establish first what meats are OK to feed:
1. Chicken, boiled or baked, no skin. Or canned with water or frozen and no preservatives
2. Turkey as in the same as chicken above
3. Lean, cooked hamburger.
4. Although technically not "meat" you can feed scrambled eggs

The problem with meat is each one of these is upside-down Ca:P-wise so you have to offset the phosphorus with calcium powder. The best D3-fortified stuff is Flukers brand because it mixes better than Repcal because it is a much finer powder. A pinch (1/8th of a teaspoon) is enough to spread out over 8 - 10 servings of meat. D3 helps in metabolizing the calcium so be sure to get the kind with D3 in it.

There are a couple of ways to feed meats.

One way is to just dice it up and serve it alongside the mixture of fruits and veggies.

Another way is to blend it with fruits or veggies that your gliders don't like. They are more likely to eat the fruits and veggies they don't like when you blend the meat in. In fact you can make little "meat balls" and bake them if you want. They will love it.

It's always a good idea to rotate the side dishes.

For example:

Sunday...
Orange Slices, Halved cherry tomatoes, diced cucumber and diced chicken (cooked) (add calcium)

Monday...
A plop of cottage cheese, watermelon, papaya chunks (8 parts), and corn (one part).

Tuesday...
Diced chicken (cooked), melon, broccoli, peas, and a plop of yogurt (add Calcium)

Wednesday...
Lean hamburger (cooked), mixed into a meatloaf with corn, peas, and berries on the side. (add calcium)

Thursday...
Scrambled eggs with green peppers, strawberries, and cucumber, and a few tiny pieces of plain cheese (add calcium)

Friday...
Turkey chunks with a medley of papaya, watermelon, and corn on the side (add calcium)

Saturday...
A plop of yogurt, cooked lean hamburger meatballs (tiny), apple and cherry tomatoes cut in half. (add calcium)

You can go here to resources/nutrition to try out the recipe calculator to play with the portions so you can see how changing the amount of one item vs. another will change the Ca:P ratio. As implied above, you can always "rightsize" the calcium by adding a tiny pinch of Flukers across multiple servings.

P.S. Most gliders are not lactose intolerant. They nurse for 15 weeks out of pouch and 70 days in-pouch so milk is not poison to them. Just don't over-do it on the cheese. Note how during a whole week there is one plop of cottage cheese and a few pieces of plain cheese.

P.P.S. Yes, they can have citrus and tomatoes. They love tomatoes in general. Just don't overdo it. The orange juice in the soup also has citrus for example.

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remember that rotation is the side dishes that is fed in addition to the soup...

I looooove looooooove looooove lgrs! So do my fuzzles!

Luckyglider/ed is the creator and he always makes himself available to discuss anything you have to ask. And in my opinion my gliders coats are a million times better since being on lgrs for a while. I recommend and teach anyone who adopts from me to use it. I even give them the rare ingrediants for their first batch when they take home their gliders. My vet has looked at lgrs along with the other diets and has started to recommend it to other patients as it is closest to a gliders natural diet.

So I highly recommend lgrs but that doesn't mean there aren't other good diets this is my opinion.

Starting next month, I will be starting my babies on the lgrs. Do I need to do a slow introduction for it?? Or just switch them over right away?

I pretty much just switched mine, and he did fine. I was doing HPW, and for a little bit, i would put both in there, and as soon as I saw that he was also eating the lgrs, I took away the HPW.

Gliders do not have to be weaned off a diet. They can just be switched, although it does take some 2-3 days to eat a full serving of their new diet.

Just finished making my first batch a few hours ago! I had to split the mixture into two pitchers after blending the warm honey and juices together and halve the rest of the ingredients between each pitcher. Worked out pretty well, but I would suggest having two pitchers handy before you start blending is all. I lucked out and had two identical ones so I was able to split it easily. It'll definitely go far, and it smells incredibly sweet from all the honey.

My boys woke up when I went to clean their cage after, and one tasted it and definitely seemed to enjoy it!

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by residualvisuals</i>
<br />Just finished making my first batch a few hours ago! I had to split the mixture into two pitchers after blending the warm honey and juices together and halve the rest of the ingredients between each pitcher. Worked out pretty well, but I would suggest having two pitchers handy before you start blending is all. I lucked out and had two identical ones so I was able to split it easily. It'll definitely go far, and it smells incredibly sweet from all the honey.

My boys woke up when I went to clean their cage after, and one tasted it and definitely seemed to enjoy it!
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Congrats on your first batch! If they get chubby on it after a while, you can cut back on the honey by as much as half or give smaller portions. Remember to feed a rotation of side dishes with it for variety and to keep those side dishes at about at 2:1 Ca:P ratio. You can call us if you want to chat:
903-482-6026

I bought a 7 cup and 14 cup Rubbermaid containers. I just use a submersion blender and freeze in those containers. I always double the recipe. I did start cutting the honey in half. My girls both had gloobies. =D! Cutting the honey down does change the consistency. You can scrape it with a ice cream scoop and it reminds me of a snow cone. =D Do make it exactly the way Ed has it written. If not I noticed some separation once thawed.

Does anyone use clover honey in their recipe? I know it has to be filtered/pasteurized, but i wasn't sure if clover honey was anything different.
What kinds of types/brands does anyone use? specifically for the recipe. I'll be making my first batch tomorrow and want to make sure I have everything right.

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<br />Does anyone use clover honey in their recipe? I know it has to be filtered/pasteurized, but i wasn't sure if clover honey was anything different.
What kinds of types/brands does anyone use? specifically for the recipe. I'll be making my first batch tomorrow and want to make sure I have everything right.
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Clover honey is fine. Most clover brands will say "filtered." It is usually safe to assume it is filtered *unless* it says "unfiltered" or "Raw."

You may wish to buy it from Costco or Sams Club because in smaller batches, it's kind of expensive.

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<br />We feed LGRS... and they love it. So do I. I think it's the easiest diet out there. For me at least.
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Easy? Where do you find the Mango and Papaya necters?

You can just puree mango and papaya. Or it is sold in supermarkets. I've only seen it sold in the Goya brand. I use fresh mango and papaya though. <blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by BookGoddes</i>
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<br />We feed LGRS... and they love it. So do I. I think it's the easiest diet out there. For me at least.
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Easy? Where do you find the Mango and Papaya necters?
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I just use fresh mango and papaya. Jumex had a mango nectar available at my local Pick 'N Save but it contained high fructose corn syrup.

Kylah, looks like you may have some competition on being the link queen from Miss Vicious

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<br />We feed it too...for 2 years now.
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My grandfather raised bees for over 20 years, and just for the record, there is no such thing as "clover" honey, it's a marketing gimmick. Bees will travel miles for pollen so there is no way to guarantee (unless you keep them in a glass enclosure lol) that all of the pollen comes from strictly clover :)
Sorry thats a soap box of mine haha I helped him care for his bees and that was always a pet peeve of his when he saw honey labeled "Clover" honey.

As far as the papaya and mango, I can find fresh mango everywhere, the papaya on the other hand was almost impossible, I did find creamed papaya at a health food store not far from here. I bought a bottle for $8 and I am going to freeze the remaining portion as the bottle will probably make about 4 or 5 batches. It is 100% papaya no additives (water, corn syrup, ect) The owner of the store told me that it is papaya that has been liquified or creamed and is used as a concentrate for people who drink it and he said you mix it with water, when I told him what I was using it for he said "oh well no need to dilute".