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  |  Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
 USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 09:00:31 PM   |
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Widget is getting neutered Wednesday.
The Vet Tech said I should keep him seperated from Willow (his Wifey) over a night or two, after his surgery.
I know how frantic he gets when he can't find her, in the cage or the tent..She dosn't seem to spaz over him at all.
She has joeys in her pouch, but not out yet..The timing seems to be another 2 weeks until they are oop..I want what is best for Widge, but I obviously don't want to stress out Willow.
How many glider friends seperated their male after neutering?
How many of You just returned him to his family?
My other post sounded like I only wanted glider "experts"..Sorry if it sounded snobbish.
Thanks to anybuddy who shares/already shared their opinion.
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 | Kozi
Fuzzy Wuzzy
  WI, USA
1278 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 09:10:02 PM   |
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The main reason for keeping him apart is so that she doesn't open up his surgery site.. You know gliders and over grooming. ): Some will mess with it some have no interest, it depends on the individual glider.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 09:38:24 PM |
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Gotcha Kozi..Thanks!
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| hypnotist321
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1630 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 09:59:57 PM |
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I'm not suggesting you not follow the vet's orders, but with both of my males I scheduled the neuters early morning and picked them up in the evening so I could get them back in their cages before everyone woke up.
I watched closely (open pouch etc), never had any problems. The first male was already prone to being upset and anxious, the second was a joey - I didn't want to chance stressing them.
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| petluv15
Fuzzy Wuzzy
 1500 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 10:10:36 PM |
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With joeys IP(and possibly out of pouch when the time comes), he needs to be put back in with them right away as long as there are no complications. You will need to watch for her overgrooming him(he should be in an e-collar/e-jacket to start with). If there are complications or overgrooming, you should allow them supervised interaction daily until the incision is healed. I would not risk keeping them apart if there aren't complications/overgrooming - it just adds to his stress.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 10:26:29 PM |
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I know everyone wants to hear what they want to hear..But honestly my gut tells me to put him back in too.
I think I will just "sleep" downstairs with them, and keep a close watch.
But I'm going to discuss it directly with the Vet tomorrow.
Hypno~> I am dropping him off in the morning & picking him up after work, so hopefully they will sleep most of the day, and not miss each other.
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| kazko
Little Bunny FooFoo
TX, USA
6605 Posts
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Mar 08 2012 : 11:09:50 PM |
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I am suggesting that you do not put him back in the first night. You have no idea what it's like when a sugar glider opens up a wound. One night of separation helps to almost guarantee that the thing drys up and heals shut. If the wound gets bothered with, it can lead to over a month of separation and some serious stress on your part. Imagine having to keep him in an ecollar for 45 days in a solitary cage...
I have a process I do for neuters. It is discussed in my journal but essentially ends up being to keep the boy docile under a bright light all night long.
Here are some things to read:
http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?ARCHIVE...
http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?ARCHIVE...
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 09 2012 : 09:47:46 AM |
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Thank You? Kaz..I DO appreciate your input..and the bright light thing makes sense..I am going to read the full article.
Now I am sick to my stomach...
Which I know is ridiculous because I am a Vet Tech, and have assisted spaying/neutering prob close to 1,000 cats/dogs..even rabbits.
I just love these guys sooo much!..I can't remember being this attached to a pet before..It feels..ummm...unreasonable.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 09 2012 : 09:54:22 AM |
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My cage can be seperated in half..That is what I'll do..Plus the bright lights in the room overnight.
I will be so relieved when this is over..I am now certainly a spokesperson for not breeding..I just pray nothing else bad happens..My nerves are a wreck.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 09 2012 : 11:16:40 AM |
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Kaz~> Wow your journal is extensive..and I've watched alot of Nibbler..How cute!..How can I find the entry about the bright light?..Thanx!
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| Mollysmom
Goofy Gorillatoes
MI, USA
2011 Posts
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Mar 10 2012 : 10:08:33 PM |
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Willow--I would highly recommend laser neutering if at all possible. My boys had excellent results with the laser neuters.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 10 2012 : 10:14:22 PM |
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Thanks for your input Moll'sMom..I was sooo hoping for laser, but unfortunately, it is not an option w/ my glider Vets..And they do pom-off too. =0{
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 10 2012 : 10:17:55 PM |
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On the bright side..They don't use glue, and the "mattress suture" they do, is not easy to pick at, as it is under the skin.
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 | JeremyLexie
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1190 Posts
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Mar 11 2012 : 03:18:29 AM |
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Keep in mind you dont want to stress her, if you have to keep them apart supervised tent time and close cages at least. Or she may reject the joeys:(
and personally I think an e collar or jacket would be fine, a bright light sounds kinda harsh:(
Edited by - JeremyLexie on Mar 11 2012 03:19:44 AM
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 11 2012 : 11:41:10 AM |
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Thanks for your input ~JL~..I am going to close the hole to seperate the levels..They will have a wire floor/ceiling to interact through..They can see each other, and interact, but won't be able to touch.
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| Cora1
Face Hugger
TX, USA
763 Posts
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Mar 11 2012 : 02:19:20 PM |
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Pom off no laser, Lordy keep both eyes on this glider, hoping all goes well. Make sure they send you home with torbuteral for pain.I am here if ya need me. 903 808 1142
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Mar 11 2012 : 02:49:59 PM |
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Thank You Cora!..I SOOO appreciate your phone number!!..Of course, I'm praying I won't need it, but it is very kind of You.
They use Buprenorphine, and we use that for cats, where I work, that need more pain relief than the Torb.
I'm also a little disappointed that they didn't have a hand-out, or info on joey rejection..They said it is VERY rare..I have obviously been reading Suz's website, and have a rejection kit on hand.
Cora ~> Do You have any experience using VetWrap as an E-jacket?..It almost looks too easy to be workable?
....back to researching...
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