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Petition to legalize Sugar Gliders in California
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Apr 22 2012
12:35:44 PM
Hey everyone,
So I have started a petition to get Sugar Gliders legalized in CA.
Ive been posting on other forums and so I'm trying to reach as many people as possible.
You are my first degree of support. You are Glider owners, potential owners, breeders, lovers, and enthusiasts.
If I can't get your support I don't see how I can get any support.
I've contacted a senator in Georgia who help legalize them there.
Below I will post the link. Please sign it.
Give me feedback. Post the link on your Facebook, Twitter and any other site or forum you may be apart of.
Thanks!

Link to petition:

www.change.org/petitions/californial-state-legislators-legalize-sugar-gliders-as-pets-in-california
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Apr 22 2012
02:50:43 PM
jjmurph Face Hugger GliderMap Visit jjmurph's Photo Album USA 836 Posts
Not to burst your bubble or anything, but I kind of understand why they are illegal. Same with Hawaii if one escaped it could be a huge danger to the local eco system.

Edited by - jjmurph on Apr 22 2012 02:51:50 PM
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Apr 22 2012
02:58:24 PM
mhall10 Joey 40 Posts
jj i can kinda see where your coming from but at the same time no, there are plenty of state the same as Cali and they are legal there, but Hawaii is totally different from Cali, they have different climate and different vegetation, so where i can see your point i dont agree with it, If a glider got out in northern Cali it would stand no chance of living at all, to to judge cali as a whole based on southern cali having the same general climate as florida is at the same time a bad example because they are legal in florida and florida has nt had a ECO crash. And for tem to impact the local eco system they would have to be a mass escape from a mill breeder because 2 or 3 would most likly be picked off by morning
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Apr 22 2012
03:24:52 PM
JimmyB Starting Member 9 Posts
Exactly
, also every state surround Cali allows them. So they could easily make their way into California
If such a thing were to happen And it hasn't. And it won't,
Honestly hawaii is the only state I understand because it is a small group of tropical islands.
They are no danger to Cali's Eco system. Also southern Cali is a lot of desert.
I appreciate your feedback though jj.
This petition has only a positive outcome.

Thanks!
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Apr 22 2012
03:28:49 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
Thanks for posting! I will sign
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Apr 22 2012
03:30:45 PM
mhall10 Joey 40 Posts
and also jimmy california from what i know has a general exotic ban on pets, so to lift the ban on just one exotic animal would be very very difficult, it stinks that they law is in place though, most animals that are classified as exotic have becoem very common house hold pets in other states, but best of luck to you
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Apr 22 2012
03:36:40 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
Oregon also has pretty strict laws for exotics.. but gliders are legal here.. I think it can be done! Good luck!
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Apr 22 2012
03:45:45 PM
mhall10 Joey 40 Posts
Category: B

Summary of Law: It is unlawful for persons to possess wild animals unless the animal was in possession prior to January 1992. Wild animals include, but are not limited to the following orders: Primates; Marsupialia; Insectivora (shrews); Chiroptera (bats); Carnivora (non-domestic dog and cats); Proboscidea (elephants); Perissodactyla (zebras, horses, rhinos); Reptilia (crocodiles, cobras, coral snakes, pit vipers, snapping turtles, alligators); etc.

and here is a link to a list of animals illegal in California, www.bornfreeusa.org/b4a2_exotic_animals_state.php?s=ca good luck but there are things that are so common that are illegal
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Apr 22 2012
03:48:27 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
Oregon just passes a similar law.. But I dont belive marsupials are on the list
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Apr 22 2012
03:55:34 PM
mhall10 Joey 40 Posts
and im not saying i dont think they should legal i just want you to know whats in place now so it kinda gives you a idea on what you have to over come
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Apr 22 2012
04:06:19 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
I also think it will be difficult.. but I also think it can be done.. but itg won't be easy!
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Apr 22 2012
04:12:20 PM
Chosen12020 Super Glider 205 Posts
I went to the link that was posted, but I couldn't find the petition. I'd LOVE to sign it, but all I could find was a bunch of stuff about Beyonce and that was about it. Is there something in *particular* that I need to click on first maybe, in order to get to this petition??? Help me out here please, because I'm confused...
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Apr 22 2012
04:19:58 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
Thats weird.. The link posted took me right to it..
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Apr 22 2012
04:20:45 PM
Noone145 Glider GliderMap USA 59 Posts
I live no where near California, but I signed goodluck!
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Apr 22 2012
04:50:19 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
I signed as well. mhall, how would a glider not survive if it got out in Cali? Heat? I believe they originate from Australia? Not hot there? I'm pretty sure one could adapt. It may not last long because of predators and lack of nutritious food.
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Apr 22 2012
04:57:18 PM
FeathersNFur Super Glider Visit FeathersNFur's Photo Album USA 232 Posts
Actually the way that law is written it may be easier than you think to get sugar glider exempted.

If you put your best case forward and get a letter from the lawmaker in Georgia that helped make them legal there you have a good chance.

You are not trying to make it legal for Marsupials, the reason they made marsupials illegal is that they don't want people having Kangaroos and Wallabys as pets.

You need to put it in your letter that you want them to change their law to read :marsupials (except sugar gliders).

You need to give them facts, keep your emotions in check and proof read your document.

Good Luck,

Feather
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Apr 22 2012
05:09:32 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
Man! And I wanted a Koala!
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Apr 22 2012
05:16:12 PM
JimmyB Starting Member 9 Posts
Thank you guys for such a large response!
I did research the laws in California. They have a blanket ban on all marsupials and certain other exotics.
I myself own a snake and gecko which are exotic animals but perfectly legal here even though both could technically live in the wild if released. (though I would never do that)
I haven't heard back yet from the senator in Georgia. If I don't this week I'm going to try and reach him by phone.
Yes they could possibly survive in Cali but thy have a very specific diet as you all know and I don't think they could get the proper nutrition.

Thank you all for the great response and feedback.
Let everybody know about it and send the link to everyone.

Thanks!

Here's the link again:

www.change.org/petitions/californial-state-legislators-legalize-sugar-gliders-as-pets-in-california
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Apr 22 2012
05:19:24 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
I posted this on my facebook.. hope it gets you a few more signatures
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Apr 22 2012
05:28:04 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
They were legalized in 2008 in GA...and I have seen 2 reports of a "found" sugar gliders. Now, that doesn't mean that is all that were lost...but in 4 years of "less than optimal" owners having gliders in GA - we are yet to be over run by the fuzz-butts and our ecosystem is fine and dandy short of the pollen explosion. Just my two cents on the eco thing. I realize that our weather is quite different from Cali and Hawaii. Just sayin'...cats are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse when let out on the loose than sugar gliders. But, what do I know!
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Apr 22 2012
05:31:55 PM
josiec Super Glider Visit josiec's Photo Album OR, USA 226 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by DoubleBogey</i>
<br />They were legalized in 2008 in GA...and I have seen 2 reports of a "found" sugar gliders. Now, that doesn't mean that is all that were lost...but in 4 years of "less than optimal" owners having gliders in GA - we are yet to be over run by the fuzz-butts and our ecosystem is fine and dandy short of the pollen explosion. Just my two cents on the eco thing. I realize that our weather is quite different from Cali and Hawaii. Just sayin'...cats are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse when let out on the loose than sugar gliders. But, what do I know!
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Totally agree..
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Apr 22 2012
05:47:07 PM
JimmyB Starting Member 9 Posts
I also agree. I see stray cats everywhere here. The sad truth is that Sugar Gliders would just become prey to all the predators Cali has. There are A lot of predators here.
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Apr 22 2012
06:27:13 PM
apricot0205 Glider GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit apricot0205's Photo Album 97 Posts
I posted on my facebook if that would help
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Apr 22 2012
06:33:40 PM
JimmyB Starting Member 9 Posts
Every little thing helps. So thank you!
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Apr 22 2012
06:51:30 PM
LizGirl Glider Visit LizGirl's Photo Album 117 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by josiec</i>
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<br />They were legalized in 2008 in GA...and I have seen 2 reports of a "found" sugar gliders. Now, that doesn't mean that is all that were lost...but in 4 years of "less than optimal" owners having gliders in GA - we are yet to be over run by the fuzz-butts and our ecosystem is fine and dandy short of the pollen explosion. Just my two cents on the eco thing. I realize that our weather is quite different from Cali and Hawaii. Just sayin'...cats are WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse when let out on the loose than sugar gliders. But, what do I know!
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Totally agree..
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I agree too. What do you know!
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Apr 22 2012
06:56:44 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
feel free to post it here http://www.facebook.com/SGliders and/or here http://spam/ there is a lot of SG FB page people who go to sgaa.

i do have a question for you. are you planning on trying to also make sure that other laws are put in place to protect gliders from people abusing them or selling them in petstores? like at least cage size requirements. it would be great if something like that could be done.

i have to agree with matt on the Hawaii thing. Hawaii and cali are way different from each other.

Edited by - shadow on Apr 22 2012 07:00:19 PM
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Apr 22 2012
10:04:33 PM
JimmyB Starting Member 9 Posts
I def want to make sure that the people who release them are prosecuted and that they are well cared for but it would be hard to keep them out of pet stores.
But I promise I will make sure to address all that and try to take care of it.
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Apr 22 2012
10:07:51 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JimmyB</i>
<br />I def want to make sure that the people who release them are prosecuted and that they are well cared for but it would be hard to keep them out of pet stores.
But I promise I will make sure to address all that and try to take care of it.
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well if you are able to do some kind of cage law like so big for so many gliders and that they need a place to hide and stuff it will make pet store owners rethink selling them.
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Apr 22 2012
11:02:36 PM
JimmyB Starting Member 9 Posts
Thats a good idea. Thank you for that. I'll make sure to bring that up.
But first we need to get them to listen.
So the more voices the louder we are.
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Apr 23 2012
09:13:59 AM
lancegtx Glider 194 Posts
Ive never seen a little dog in a purse here in illinois. However I think I saw atleast 3 before I left the airport in cali. Just saying, it could go eaither way. It could be great because it might raise awareness about the species. However I would be very afraid It would become the next glamour pet the first time paris hilton shows up with one on TV. I would be all for licensed ownership though!

Not really a relevent argument eaither way, just a thought.

Edited by - lancegtx on Apr 23 2012 09:17:05 AM
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Apr 23 2012
10:23:10 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Paris Hilton was already known for having one...and no longer having one. LOL
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