Hi,

I was wondering if there was another fruit nectar you could substitute for the mango juice. I'm deathly allergic to mango, like anaphylactic shock allergic.

I'm not sure but you could ask Ed (creator of the diet). He has username LuckyGlider on here. If you go up top to "members", you can search for and contact him that way or he usually checks in and will probably see this.

I answered in a PM but for everyone else, you can just double the Papaya juice if you have to take out the Mango. We have been very busy at the ranch lately, so if I do not respond to PMs or Posts right away you can email or call: 903-482-6026 or ed@luckyglider.org

Thank you, Ed! :)

I wish we could use something other than stinky papaya

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You can use apple, but you will have to add a pinch (1/8th of a teaspoon) of calcium powder with it. Or you can use just mango and the ratio should be just about 2:1 if you leave all the other ingredients the same

Does mango actually have the same amount of calcium as papaya?Ahhhhhh if it does. Papaya goes bad too fast and really smells awful when it is ripe.<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LuckyGlider</i>
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You can use apple, but you will have to add a pinch (1/8th of a teaspoon) of calcium powder with it. Or you can use just mango and the ratio should be just about 2:1 if you leave all the other ingredients the same
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<br />Does mango actually have the same amount of calcium as papaya?Ahhhhhh if it does. Papaya goes bad too fast and really smells awful when it is ripe.<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by LuckyGlider</i>
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You can use apple, but you will have to add a pinch (1/8th of a teaspoon) of calcium powder with it. Or you can use just mango and the ratio should be just about 2:1 if you leave all the other ingredients the same
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no it does not, but if you double the mango the OVERALL Ca:P for the entire recipe will still be about 2:1

what exactly is the honey in LGRS for? ive been asked several times and told its bad for gliders....
ed lol could you tell me exactly what the honey is for ?

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<br />what exactly is the honey in LGRS for? ive been asked several times and told its bad for gliders....
ed lol could you tell me exactly what the honey is for ?
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Gliders eat a lot of nectar in the wild, honey simulates the nectar. Honey is not bad for gliders, it is one of the only closely related components we have to a wild gliders diet.

But this question was for Ed, would it help if I linked him?


http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25960&whichpage=4

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<br />what exactly is the honey in LGRS for? ive been asked several times and told its bad for gliders....
ed lol could you tell me exactly what the honey is for ?
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Gliders eat a lot of nectar in the wild, honey simulates the nectar. Honey is not bad for gliders, it is one of the only closely related components we have to a wild gliders diet.

But this question was for Ed, would it help if I linked him?


http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25960&whichpage=4

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Honey is not "bad" and whomever is saying that apparently knows little about marsupial nutrition.

First, let's establish that honey is derived from the pollen of plants. In the wild sugar gliders thrive on nectars, saps and a lot of pollen. Many field studies have been done over the years based on scat analysis that show how glider consume a lot of pollen and nectars and sap.

Honey approximates the value of the protein and complex polysaccharides that are found in the natural saps of acacia and euc trees. Essentially, sap is like maple syrup. It's sugary, full of protein, and is a hit with gliders.

That's where the "sugar" in sugar glider comes from. The fact that they love the sugary sap from trees. Honey is a derivative "sap" manufactured by bees based on the pollen from plants.

We use honey then because it euc and aciacia sap is not commercially available here.

Most all of the zoo-based diets for gliders and other marsupials use honey as part of their diet and pollen too.

The use of honey and eggs in glider diets has been traditional since the early sixties.

perfect!! thanks guys! i have something solid to refer people to now! :)