So ive been working on introductions between my female google and my 2 neutered brothers craig and butters. Weve been pouch swapping for about a month now, and they have had about an hour of supervised playtime every night for a little over a week. During the first few days we had a few ball-up problems but for most of this week the only aggressive behavior that I see is when Google will occasionally run up to one of the boys bite him and the get chased off. Neither of the boys ever instigate or act aggressive.
So yesterday I completely sanitized the boys cage, washed all pouches and toys and decided to try a over nighter. I had originally planned on camping out on the floor in their room last night but just me laying on the floor was enough to start a full on barking riot all night. I eventually wound up sleeping in the hallway so they would interact rather than keep barking at me. There was deffiently some aggression, and one semi-ball that only lasted for mabye 3 seconds. But for the most part they were just ignoring each other. I havent seen ANY sent marking between them yet, so thats starting to worry me. I was really starting to get discouraged. But eventually at around 6am this morning they all decided to go in the same pouch and go to sleep. They are all sound asleep in there now and only wake to bicker at each other once and a while.
So ive got to work eairly tomorow morning and will not be able to stay up with them tonight. So do you think I should leave them together tonight unsupervised or not? I kind of feel like I will be taking 2 steps backwards if I separate them now. Not to mention that I will have to re-sanitize the cage and re-wash everything to start over later in the week.
Any Insight that you guys might have would be greatly appreciated!
KritterCareFace HuggerUSA633 Posts
May 08 2012 : 03:06:21 PM
Hmm... that's a tough call. If you have someone else that will be home (I don't know your living situation) that could watch them and would seperate them, if need be, I would say let them be. If you don't, on the other hand, I don't know that I would risk it, especially if you work all night. You might feel like it would be taking two steps back, but it might not be. My girls had a fight after about a month together and one got a pretty nasty mating wound. I had to seperate them for a month while the wound healed, and when it was time to go back together, you would have thought they were together for years the way they ran too and greated each other. Maybe if you seperate them, they will realize they would rather be together and act nicer next time. Ultimately, it is your decision to make, though, and if you decide to leave them together (unsupervised) I would check on them when you get home, even if it means you have to wake them up to do so.
petluv15Fuzzy Wuzzy1500 Posts
May 08 2012 : 03:16:22 PM
I would separate them. Balling up is not a good sign and I wouldn't leave them unsupervised if that has a good possibility of happening again.
I'm not sure how you've been doing introductions, but I would recommend working with one of the boys one on one with the new girl. I would pick the more dominant brother if you can distinguish that. Put them together in neutral territory(I use a bathtub) during the day, allow them to sniff/mingle, and then offer them a neutral bonding pouch to go into together. I keep that pouch on me all day. Make sure to clean an empty cage so that its neutral, perhaps allowing them some playtime in the tent/bathroom before putting them into the neutral cage for the night(assuming all has gone well throughout the day).
I would leave them as a pair for at least a couple days(continuing scent swapping during this time with the other brother). Then try the other brother with the female(again, one on one). If they do OK, bring in the first brother you introduced first :)
TJones09Goofy Gorillatoes2001 Posts
May 08 2012 : 03:56:55 PM
I agree that's better to take steps backward, if it even does for them, then to take risks of serious injuries or even death. I know it means re-cleaning everything again, but that could just mean completely cleaning everything at once instead of in parts. I don't know your work schedule, but you could try to figure what will work best and you would have the most time for an all-nighter for maybe 2 nights at least. Then during the week within a few day before your all-nighter, try the intros as suggested, while they're sleepy, and see if they sleep nicely in pouch for the entire day.
Also, when separating them, keep the pouch swapping going, and maybe some toys as well so more of each others scent is in their cages. Then, when you feel safe leaving them unsupervised, you'll realize how worthwhile the steps taken back were. It's up to you, I'm just suggesting what i would do in this situation, always "better safe than sorry"
May 08 2012 : 09:59:46 PM
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I have decided to take your advice and separate them for the night. I thought I would go ahead and give a little more info on what ive observed today/tonight and and see what you guys think.
After posting last time I took them all out to give them some yogies and check for any kind of battle scars. There are NONE thank god. After that I went ahead and separated Google into a different pouch in the same cage so that they could get some undisturbed sleep but she hopped right out of that one and back in with the boys. So it seems like she want to be near them. After last night any kind of snippyness seems to have dissipated however I keep seeing google bite the boys on the neck and try to hold them down and get on top of them. At this point they both just seem to give up and hold still rather that snipping back. Is she trying to mate, or is this just a display of dominance?
Right now they are separated into different cages for the night, but playtime will resume tomorow night when they wake up.