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2 sizes of "peas" inside a new mama?
2 sizes of "peas" inside a new mama?
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May 09 2012
04:48:23 PM
Ok. This is probably gonna sound weird but I was looking at Emma and she looks preg. Well I felt her pouch(very lightly), and there were 2 different sizes of "peas" Is this possible? I thought I read somewhere that it is possible, but I can't find it anywhere.

Also if there is 2 females in a colony of 6 with only one male not fixed and one gets preg. Should I separate the male/female or does the rest of the colony help? I've already lost a "pea" from one of the girls when I didn't separate. One day she was preg. the next she wasn't.

I welcome any and all advise. I already know that he needs to be neutered. I've been spending most of my extra money "saving"gliders from very bad homes. 3 of the four that I have gotten are very overweight. They were on Cat/dog food and mealies.
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May 09 2012
04:55:34 PM
StellaAnLuna Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit StellaAnLuna's Photo Album 1063 Posts
uhh...
unfix male + 2 females = Babies.

If the girls are with a male that is not fix, yes, they can be prego. Why do you have a not fixed male with the females?? You need to get him fix ASAP!! you need to read up on Suz site about joeys, and you need to get a joey rejection kit.
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May 09 2012
04:59:28 PM
GizmoJ Joey Visit GizmoJ's Photo Album 34 Posts
I was just wanting to know if it is possible for the babies to be different sizes. One is the size of a pea and the other is about half that size.
I already know about the whole neutering thing.

I also already have 2 joeys that were oop 3/29. Different pair, and we bought her w/o knowing she was preg. Got dad fixed.

Edited by - GizmoJ on May 09 2012 05:01:55 PM
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May 09 2012
05:01:31 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
yes. they have 4 nipples and to put it in basic words they can hold a joey inside them while having anther joey in pouch. then when that joey in her is ready to come out it goes into the pouch with the other joey.

Edited by - shadow on May 09 2012 05:02:12 PM
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May 09 2012
05:03:01 PM
GizmoJ Joey Visit GizmoJ's Photo Album 34 Posts
Thank You Shadow. I thought I had read that somewhere, but wasn't sure where it was.
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May 09 2012
05:05:42 PM
karensink Face Hugger GliderMap Visit karensink's Photo Album 802 Posts
you probably will need to separate, i have heard that the other females might "pull" the joeys because she is jealous. but someone who is more knowledgable than me will come along and tell you what you need
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May 09 2012
05:11:07 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
http://planet.uwc.ac.za/nisl/biodiversity/loe/page_193.htm this explains it in better words. its not for gliders but kangaroos are similar enough for you to get an idea of how it works.

"The egg which is still enclosed in the vestiges of a shell a few microns thick and has only a small quantity of yolk within it, and descends from the ovary into the uterus. There, lying free, it is fertilised and begins its development. If this is the first time that the female has mated, the fertilized egg does not stay there long. In the case of the red kangaroo it is only thirty three days before the neonate emerges. Usually only one is born at a time. It is a blind, hairless an only a few centimetres long; its hind legs are mere buds, but its forelegs are better developed and with these it hauls its way through the thick fur on its mother's abdomen. The neonate's journey to the pouch takes about three minutes. Once there, it fastens on to one of four teats and starts to feed. Almost immediately, the mother's sexual cycle starts again. Another egg descends into the uterus and she becomes sexually receptive and she mates and the egg is fertilised. But then an extraordinary thing happens, the egg's development is temporarily halted. Meanwhile, the neonate in the pouch is growing prodigiously. After 190 days, the baby is sufficiently large and independent to make its first foray out of the pouch."

Edited by - shadow on May 09 2012 05:12:14 PM
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May 09 2012
05:16:30 PM
petluv15 Fuzzy Wuzzy Gliderpedia Editor Visit petluv15's Photo Album petluv15's Journal 1500 Posts
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by karensink</i>
<br />you probably will need to separate, i have heard that the other females might "pull" the joeys because she is jealous. but someone who is more knowledgable than me will come along and tell you what you need
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But separating her probably will cause more stress - its risky either way. I'd keep them together and risk one of the other gliders pulling the joey over separating them and causing stress to everyone in the family. I've had a colony of 5 with two joeys and all the other gliders helped raise the joeys(however only the dominant female carried joeys - the other female had joeys that were pulled).
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May 09 2012
08:31:28 PM
lilangels Super Glider Visit lilangels's Photo Album 315 Posts
I had a momma with 5 1/2 week old joeys when she had 2 more joeys come oop so YES they can have them in there at different sizes.
I would worry greatly about the other gliders pulling her joeys if they have already done that before to another glider.
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