Meagan I am so sorry you lost your joey. I understand all too well how awful that is. I have taken in rescued gliders that rejected their joeys and have done everything possible to care for them and still had them die. Some times GOD just did not intent for those lil ones to make it. The other fact is not many people have what it takes to hand raise a very young joey. For weeks you get absolutely no sleep feeding every 30 minutes. Not to mention it is not even possible to work while doing this. Then if something happens and all your hard work fails and your baby dies you end up completely heart broken.
I am hoping that instead of throwing stones or unkind words everyone on here that had a male and female unneutered gliders together will go to one of the sites that sells everything you could possibly need to hand raise a joey and place an order. You may never plan on having joeys but if your gliders are not neutered please just take this time to order everything you could need just in case. Read up on what you need to due in case of rejection. Take meagan's tragedy and make something positive come out of it. Use this joey's loss as a reminder to everyone to be prepared just in

Awww, so sorry for your loss. If you plan on having more Joeys, please just make sure you have all the things you need if one is rejected. Not everyone knows they need a rejection kit. But plz plz make sure you have the stuff on hand if you plan to have more babies

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<br />Awww, so sorry for your loss. If you plan on having more Joeys, please just make sure you have all the things you need if one is rejected. Not everyone knows they need a rejection kit. But plz plz make sure you have the stuff on hand if you plan to have more babies
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Amen!! I almost didn't buy formula & stuff!! I know I was such a bad glider mommy at that moment. But I just had such faith that she would be a good mommy & I was wrong she rejected one. Thank god I ordered the formula
& had my stuff together or she would be dead!! PLEASE PLEASE buy a Joey rejection kit if you have joeys on the way it's soooo important!!

I am so sorry for your loss. I don’t see why people are beating you up about not having a rejection kit. Yes, you should have had one, you didn’t. You owned it and I am sure you won’t make that mistake again.

Don't let Erica get to you. She posts on every single thread and she doesn't even own any gliders. It's easy for her to criticize others about the way they handle their gliders when she only has imaginary ones to play with.

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<br />I am so sorry for your loss. I don’t see why people are beating you up about not having a rejection kit. Yes, you should have had one, you didn’t. You owned it and I am sure you won’t make that mistake again.

Don't let Erica get to you. She posts on every single thread and she doesn't even own any gliders. It's easy for her to criticize others about the way they handle their gliders when she only has imaginary ones to play with.

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Excuss me?! You really got to be kidding me. Yes, I don't own glider's, and what? does that mean I can't give advise? AND..I don't post on every thread, do you see my name in EVERY thread? I don't think so. I am deicating MY life, helping other's learn, and my self learn something new everyday, when I don't have glider's yet. I am sitting here EVERYDAY helping people, when I don't have glidr's, I can Honestly wait 2 or however many years it takes till i'm ready and come back, but I'm NOT I am going to sit here learn and help other's wither you or anybody else like's it. I am here to learn and help other's, like I said if you like me yay, if you don't then too bad-my life is not going to end because people dont like me, i'm not going to stop helping glider's because people don't like me, so love my babies be ready to see my name helping other's.:D

~Erica~

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<br />Don't let Erica get to you. She posts on every single thread and she doesn't even own any gliders. It's easy for her to criticize others about the way they handle their gliders when she only has imaginary ones to play with.

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How rude! Just because someone doesn't have gliders in their possession doesn't mean they haven't done their research and have knowledge of them. Erica (StellaAnLuna) was simply trying to help and did nothing wrong. Her comments to Chosen were spot on.

I'm sorry for the loss of your glider!

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<br />I am so sorry for your loss. I don’t see why people are beating you up about not having a rejection kit. Yes, you should have had one, you didn’t. You owned it and I am sure you won’t make that mistake again.

Don't let Erica get to you. She posts on every single thread and she doesn't even own any gliders. It's easy for her to criticize others about the way they handle their gliders when she only has imaginary ones to play with.

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Excuss me?! You really got to be kidding me. Yes, I don't own glider's, and what? does that mean I can't give advise? AND..I don't post on every thread, do you see my name in EVERY thread? I don't think so. I am deicating MY life, helping other's learn, and my self learn something new everyday, when I don't have glider's yet. I am sitting here EVERYDAY helping people, when I don't have glidr's, I can Honestly wait 2 or however many years it takes till i'm ready and come back, but I'm NOT I am going to sit here learn and help other's wither you or anybody else like's it. I am here to learn and help other's, like I said if you like me yay, if you don't then too bad-my life is not going to end because people dont like me, i'm not going to stop helping glider's because people don't like me, so love my babies be ready to see my name helping other's.:D

~Erica~
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Wow. They way you described yourself in that last little rant was pretty intense. You act like you are a martyr. You aren’t. You are just repeating what someone told you to say, you have no basis for comparison. I have had owned gliders for over 10 years and my very first glider is still alive. Now, one would think that I would answer all the questions, but I raise my gliders differently than the “norm”, so I let the “experts” give the advice. I get a bad rep on here because I usually only post something after I see something that gets under my skin. I am not trying to be cruel, but I see you on here always giving advice, telling people who are new to “just ask” if they have any questions. People should not ask you anything, you don’t have any gliders!!!!!!!! I have already received a few PM’s with members saying that they have often wondered why you are always so quick to post when you don’t even have any gliders. So, at least if you disagree, others don’t.

Most of the time, you repeat what someone else has already said. I am also calling you out because you were one of the one's who jumped on baby.girl or whatever her name was for her spelling.
-Your spelling is atrocious; you are the pot calling the kettle black.


You may not post on every single thread, but you do post on most of them. And nine times out of ten, you aren’t adding any new information. You are saying the same thing as others.

My point is- you have no basis to agree or disagree with advice. You do not nor have not ever owned any sugar gliders. You don’t have the right to criticize anyone who does own them on how they handle their gliders.

<b></b>BUT SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER OWNED A GLIDER SHOULD NOT BE GIVING GLIDER ADVICE. PERIOD. <b></b>

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Wow. They way you described yourself in that last little rant was pretty intense. You act like you are a martyr. You aren’t. You are just repeating what someone told you to say, you have no basis for comparison. I have had owned gliders for over 10 years and my very first glider is still alive. Now, one would think that I would answer all the questions, but I raise my gliders differently than the “norm”, so I let the “experts” give the advice. I get a bad rep on here because I usually only post something after I see something that gets under my skin. I am not trying to be cruel, but I see you on here always giving advice, telling people who are new to “just ask” if they have any questions. People should not ask you anything, you don’t have any gliders!!!!!!!! I have already received a few PM’s with members saying that they have often wondered why you are always so quick to post when you don’t even have any gliders. So, at least if you disagree, others don’t.

Most of the time, you repeat what someone else has already said. I am also calling you out because you were one of the one's who jumped on baby.girl or whatever her name was for her spelling.
-Your spelling is atrocious; you are the pot calling the kettle black.


You may not post on every single thread, but you do post on most of them. And nine times out of ten, you aren’t adding any new information. You are saying the same thing as others.

My point is- you have no basis to agree or disagree with advice. You do not nor have not ever owned any sugar gliders. You don’t have the right to criticize anyone who does own them on how they handle their gliders.

<b></b>BUT SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER OWNED A GLIDER SHOULD NOT BE GIVING GLIDER ADVICE. PERIOD. <b></b>

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Just playing devil's advocate here, but isn't it better to have someone like Erica who does her research and tried to learn all she can BEFORE she gets her gliders, than someone who gets a glider on a whim and had NO CLUE what they are getting themselves into? I know that I would rather someone know their limits and wait to get their gliders until they are ready. I have seen advise that Erica has posted and I not found any of it to be untrue. Most of us are posting advise that we have been told or read elsewhere. We may or may not have a personal experience to reference from.

When this thread started and Erica commented all she did was provide phone numbers to those who could help the OP. You don't need personal experience to give phone numbers. It wasn't until Chosen started talking about the OP getting no help that she offered more than that. At this point, it simply seems like you have a need to pick on her for some reason and are calling her out for no reason. Erica did nothing wrong.

Wait, I have a question for you love my babies:

Do exotic vets who don't have sugar gliders not get a say? Do people who JUST BOUGHT a (as in 1) sugar glider on a whim have MORE of a say then Erica because they have a sugar glider and she has none? I have had sugar glider's since Feb, does someone who has had them longer then me but feeds them a pelleted diet and has them sleep in a shirt on a heat rock have more say then me?

I think that what you said was ridiculous.

I'm sorry for your loss OP, but it seems you had said you thought your joey was getting rejected...you should have ordered or somehow obtained the supplies for rejection since you apparently didn't already have the kit.

Glide free lil' joey.

love my babies is this really something that has to be brought up on the forum in someone else's thread?? im sure you can deal with this problem through a PM instead or just make your own thread to talk about it. so how about letting this thread get back to what it is about and showing some respect for the death of a glider. ^_^

I suggest a "switch back" to the OP Topic in agreement with Shadow.

From what I read most members tried their best to help advise or then to console the loss of RJ.

Sorry for your loss!

I'm also sorry to hear this.

Just want to reiterate not to be upset with the others. There's no way to know why it was rejected. Leaving the Joey out of the "nest" is how they keep predators away in the wild. I do not think it was malicious on their part. If you aren't getting dad neutered and this happens again, there could be something going on with mom, and neutering would be best.

I hope you've had your male neutered by now.

It would be a tragedy for you to go through this again, let alone how difficult it is for the gliders. They don't need this again.

there is no sense in being rude, she lost a joey! Just because she didnt know to have a rejection kit does not make her a bad person. Everyone comes here to learn! And by being rude does not help. Everyone had to learn from somewhere. And this is the best place to do so. Being rude or blunt isnt helping. When giving advice, I think its better to be nice and caring and not make the person feel like an idiot or as if they are stupid. I think when giving advice, being caring and nice gets the point across much better than jumping on someone. Just my opinion.......sheesh

Thank you all for caring <3 I do remember reading on here in another thread that while one is OOP she may have another one in pouch. I will buy a rejection kit right now just in case she may be carrying another Joey. Also, she was given a proper burial at the beach during the sunset, so I feel atleast shes rested forever in a beautiful place (love south florida sometimes!).

As for the side conversation going on here...I understand giving advice on a subject if you feel you know the answer, whether that be from personal experience or research. I'm new to this (as of October) and I have learned a lot and I do like to chime in on some other threads about things I have acquired through both research and learning from all of you guys. I really do appreciate the help.