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  |  Nibbler-N-Kadis Mommy
Face Hugger
 USA
685 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 08:40:39 PM   |
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im just curious how old is to old to breed a glider? i really would like nibbler to have babies,but i dont really know much about it. is that a bad idea to have babies without ever having them before?
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|  | Skyfire
Face Hugger
 AZ, USA
456 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 08:51:05 PM  |
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Heres a good link for info on breeding.
http://www.suzsugargliders.com/breedingsugargliders.htm
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| lilangels
Super Glider
315 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 08:57:00 PM |
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How old is nibbler? Do you have lineage on your gliders? If they were rescued gliders without any lineage it is not suggested you breed them. Babies without lineage are very hard to sell and that is just the tiniest reason why we say don't breed without lineage. You can not know how closely the gliders may be related without lineage and an awful lot of joeys being cannibalized is due to the parents being related and causing abnormalities in the babies. I would have argued the other side of this issue until I started taking in rescues who were expecting and so far out of a lot of pregnancies I only have one joey who survived and she only survived because I caught the parents trying to eat her and took her and hand raised her. I want to point out with all these gliders they were pregnant when they came to me before I could get the male fixed. Now with my lineaged carefully planned pairs I have not had any problems with joey cannibalizing. My parents have all done amazing jobs. I really have to believe this is because they were carefully choosen and are not closely related.
There is nothing more horrible than being so excited about baby joeys and finding bits and pieces of them on the cage floor or in the pouch.
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| Nibbler-N-Kadis Mommy
Face Hugger
USA
685 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 08:57:11 PM |
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| Nibbler-N-Kadis Mommy
Face Hugger
USA
685 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 09:07:25 PM |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by lilangels</i>
<br />How old is nibbler? Do you have lineage on your gliders? If they were rescued gliders without any lineage it is not suggested you breed them. Babies without lineage are very hard to sell and that is just the tiniest reason why we say don't breed without lineage. You can not know how closely the gliders may be related without lineage and an awful lot of joeys being cannibalized is due to the parents being related and causing abnormalities in the babies. I would have argued the other side of this issue until I started taking in rescues who were expecting and so far out of a lot of pregnancies I only have one joey who survived and she only survived because I caught the parents trying to eat her and took her and hand raised her. I want to point out with all these gliders they were pregnant when they came to me before I could get the male fixed. Now with my lineaged carefully planned pairs I have not had any problems with joey cannibalizing. My parents have all done amazing jobs. I really have to believe this is because they were carefully choosen and are not closely related.
There is nothing more horrible than being so excited about baby joeys and finding bits and pieces of them on the cage floor or in the pouch.
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well i wouldnt sell the babies i just want babies from nibbler. she is prob about 7yrs old
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| JeremyLexie
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1190 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 09:40:40 PM |
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The oldest glider I have heard about having babies has been 6 years old. You will prolly have to get another pair.
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| TheHomermomma
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1328 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 09:48:02 PM |
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There is a lady here in FL who has had joeys from a 9 year old female and in another pair, joeys from a 10 year old male. However, the even if you are planning to keep them, it isn't a good idea if you don't know the lineage. There are SO many things that can and do go wrong.
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| tjlong
Glider
136 Posts
| Apr 14 2012 : 11:07:02 PM |
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I know every one is mentioning lineage but you should also realize that most times, if a female doesn't have joeys in her 'prime' years so to speak they dont want to start being moms in Later years. I think you would risk a higher chance of issues with joeys from an older mom (statistically speaking birth defects, etc) and higher possibilities of cannibalization or rejection if joeys aren't pulled. Also, older females who don't want to mate run the risk of getting mating wounds from trying to fight off their mate.
In the wild there are certain females who are allowed to mate and have joeys in the colony and others who may always be 'auntie'. An older female may very well believe she is an aunt, not meant to be a mom. Just things to consider.
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