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  |  Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
 USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 27 2012 : 11:11:10 PM   |
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I'm frazzled.
After beebee #1's sad demise, I had been so careful, keeping an eye on the other one..I noticed a tiny scrape on her face about a week ago..and it seemed Willow's singing while nursing, was sometimes sounding more like crabbing.
Little one looked/felt well fed, and with obsessive checking on her, things seemed to be okay, altho' "iffy"..Daddy, Widge, was really being attentive, so I was trying to not over react.
On Monday, I had to go to New Orleans, w/ Hub, on business..I had no choice but to be hopeful, and have faith..My GrandDaughter did an excellent job of caring for them, and gave me updates everyday.
When we got home last night, of course I was ecstatic that "Weedles" seemed ok, other than she didn't look any bigger, at all...About 5am I came down, as we've had a cold snap & I wanted to check the pellet stove, and the fuzzies.
The baby was alone in the pouch, ice cold, and barely moving..I warm fleeced her, and put her in a sports bra..She warmed up & started crawling around..I put her in on Daddy's back, and he took her to the pouch, and stayed in with her for a good 1/2 hour, before Willow went back in with them.
They seemed to snuggle up, so I went back to bed.
This morning I saw that the babe has another scratch on her nose, and with close examination, I noticed another under her chin..She seemed maybe a bit dehydrated..So I decided to pull her.
Although, I don't know if it's possible to be mentally prepared, I was "rejection kit prepared"..And went back to re-read Suz's site.
Weedles is taking the pedialyte/formula well..and seems to be hungry every 2 hours..She's peeing with just a slight amt of stimulation.
I'm alternating between having her in a bra pouch, and putting her in the incubator.
Right now I feel terrible, because after I fed her a little while ago..She was crawling around the incubator, and crab/crying(?)..I think she can hear her parents bouncing around, and running on their wheels, because we are right next to the cage.
She just went back to the heated side of the incubator & got in her pouch, on her own, so I'm feeling a little better, but I'm sure she must miss her parents.
I'm wondering if it might be ok to put her back in with her Dad for a little while? (I can separate Willow & Widge on different levels of the cage)..I'm 99%sure it was Mom who scratched her, to get her off a nipple.
Any thoughts about this?
Any tips on this adjustment are more than welcome..Thanks so much.
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 | JeremyLexie
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1190 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 12:32:23 AM  |
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I haven't dealt with joeys but I wouldn't take the chance. It sounds like she is past 2 weeks OOP? I believe the first 2 weeks are the hardest, from what I have read.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 12:38:49 AM |
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Thanks for the reply JerLex..I have also read the first 2 weeks are the hardest..She is 24 days Oop now.
I know I have a digital scale..I absolutely need to find it, to keep an eye on her weight.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 08:54:48 AM |
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Morning update: She did great through the night..I kept her incubator next to my bed, and she woke up every 3 hours to eat, like clockwork.
She also played in bed with me this morning..Cute little hops, and attempts at scurrying..lol
She urinates with just a gentle wipe, but I haven't seen anything that resembles a poo..I'm going to add in a small amount of baby cereal today.
Hoping to get a pic or two also.
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| TJones09
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1991 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 09:32:05 AM |
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Thanks for the update, please keep them coming.
Sorry I have nothing to contribute, no knowledge or experience on the matter.
Best of luck.
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| MamaBird
Super Glider
 USA
391 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 12:33:31 PM |
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Good luck and keep us updated, I'm rooting for little Weedles.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 01:39:00 PM |
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Thanks so much TJ & MaBird..She just had a good p@@p, and is snuggled back in my shirt.
A few minutes ago, I let a friend's little girl have a peek at her, and she let out a stream of crabbing that sounded like a hundred pound locust..Scared the little girl so bad, she jumped, and I think her feet came off the floor.
Weedles has an unbelievably BIG voice..lol
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| fazioli
Face Hugger
906 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 01:47:13 PM |
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I don't have any experience nor knowledge about joeys either, but just wanted to say how observant and diligent you have been with the little one. Sounds like little Weedles is making great progress!!
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 01:54:35 PM |
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Thanks Ange!
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| StellaAnLuna
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1063 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 02:33:33 PM |
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Glad things are going good.
Good luck with the little joey. You and the little joey will be in my prayers.
~Erica~
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| Chosen12020
Super Glider
205 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 03:49:11 PM |
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You're such a great mommy Willow Tree! You're doing GREAT!!! Keep doing what you're doing, and keep the updates coming in. Weedles will be fine with a loving, and caring mother like you. God bless you and your babies
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| Chosen12020
Super Glider
205 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 03:54:15 PM |
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*Willows Tree*. Sorry
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| Chosen12020
Super Glider
205 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 04:01:39 PM |
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P.S.
Kudos for pulling Weedles out. Even though I know that it hurt you, you did the RIGHT thing... for Weedles' sake. God bless, and keep it up:)
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 04:27:54 PM |
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Thanks Stella & Chosen!
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| lilangels
Super Glider
315 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 09:13:57 PM |
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Sound like you are doing great. When weedles cries for mommy and daddy just slip her in your bra for a bit and pack her close to you. Babies are not meant to ever be alone so that helps a ton. I hand raised my baby Daisy and she spent most of her time in my bra. She is the most amazing bonded glider ever. All the work will be well worth it when you have an amazing healthy big glider who really believes you are the mommy.'
If you have any questions you can alweays call me my number is 406-723-7339.
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| Gizmo-n-Roos Mommy
Fuzzy Wuzzy
OH, USA
1623 Posts
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Apr 28 2012 : 09:21:00 PM |
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I am glad that she is doing well.
I know it was a hard decision but every time you doubt it, remember that you may have saved her life.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 01:32:35 PM |
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Thanks much again lilangels & G&R'sMommy..I so appreciate your phone offer, just don't want to "take advantage" with questions that a "notlazyperson" would look up using resources generously provided.
Weedle is doing well, eating her formula out of a water bottle lid, every 3 -4 hours..I barely notice her in my bra, and am going to sew a couple custom bra pouches so she will be safer..Her grip is amazing..and what is with the burrowing so deep?, I fear she might suffocate.
I uploaded pix of her, but the site won't let me edit, to add a description..The new pix don't show up on my edit page at all.
I am hoping Y'all can see them..I can clearly see her poor lil face on my pc, where the bad scratch is. 
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 01:46:40 PM |
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Oh my gosh..They showed up very well..Now Y'all can see why I decided to pull her..Poor beebee..I just love her sooo much..I'd even sleep with her, if I wasn't afraid of laying on her..So she goes in her incubator at night..but I have her close to my heart every waken moment.
And she does wake me up to eat, being right next to my head, at night.
I still haven't found my daggone scale..I'ma buy another on my way to work.
It is too cute when she sees anyone elses face, and she gives them crabatude.
She already makes eye contact with me..AND turns away from the camera..amazingly smart little fuzzbees they be!
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| TONYA1W1
Super Glider
 USA
216 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 02:13:15 PM |
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Well your doing great and your baby is so cute good luck
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 04:35:36 PM |
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I haven't had Willow & Widget in their tent, since returning from New Orleans, Thursday.
While taking care of the baby, because of Mama's rejection..I'm guessing I shouldn't bring Weedle in the tent, at all?..Guess I should wait to re-introduce the family, until Weedle is closer to their size?
Also I just felt her scratching/itching the scab on her face, with her back foot..I haven't put anything on the spot, but am wondering if I should?..It is sooo awful close to her eye..Would a drop of honey be helpful?..or should I just leave it alone, and watch it?
Thanks!
Edited by - Willows Tree on Apr 29 2012 04:45:41 PM
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| lilangels
Super Glider
315 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 04:36:57 PM |
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She is absolutely adorable. I would get some stuff called vetricyn and start putting it on her face for that sore so it will heal fast without infection. The vetricyn is absolutely amazing stuff. you can usually buy it at a farm ranch store. If you go to their site it has a spot to click to see the closest place to you selling it. If you can't find it let me know and i could mail you some. I buy it in a huge container.
I'll keep weebles in my prayers....she's one very lucky little girl that she had such a good mommy watching over her.
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| Chosen12020
Super Glider
205 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 06:02:55 PM |
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Wow! That's one <b>GORGEOUS </b> little baby!!! Their wounds will heal, don't you worry Never needed to use the medication mentioned above (thank God), but that's good to know that it heals wounds quickly. I'll buy some and put it away... just in case...
Also, as far as intoducing them this soon... again... I'm no expert, but I read somewhere online, that when introducing a baby glider to an adult glider, that the baby glider should be at LEAST 6 months old. By that age, they should have more meat on their bones, and be able to kind of "hold their own" so to speak. If I can find where I read that, I will post it up for you.
I personally think that it's too soon to try to introduce them again. Especially given the fact that Weedles was attacked already, and has wounds that aren't completely healed up.
If anyone disagrees, or has more information to add, please feel free to jump in. This is just my humble opinion. I want little Weedles to thrive and be happy too:) Weedles will have a place with Mom and Dad. I just feel that it may be too much too soon right now.
P.S. I don't know WHY, but I just had a flash back about something that I read on the internet a little while back. One glider mommy, took a joey away from their parents, just for a moment. She took them out of the cage, while the parents were still IN the cage. She placed the joey in front of the cage, very CLOSE so that the mother and father could see them, and touch them. They grabbed the baby so HARD and so FIERCLY, as if to try to pull them back into the cage, through the bars. The MORE the lady tried to pull the baby away, the DEEPER their claws sunk into the baby. It did not end well...
Don't know why that popped in my head all of a sudden, but since it DID, I thought that I'd share it. Be strong, like you've been doing, and don't try to rush or force anything to happen. They will all be one big happy family in time...You're doing awesome!
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| Chosen12020
Super Glider
205 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 06:30:56 PM |
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www.pawprintonline.com/central-glider-#8203;lonely.html
The above link isn't the link where I first read about not introducing younger gliders to adult gliders until they are 6 month old, but since they talk about it briefly here, I decided to post it. I don't have to software to make this link clickable, and I apologize for that.
You have to scroll down to to where it says, "Glider Combos," highlighted in purple, then scroll down just past where it says, "Two males." I don't remember where I read about the woman with the unfortunate mishap with her baby joey either. I really apologize for that. From now on, when I find little interesting things about gliders, I'm going to jot the site that I found that info from. That way, I can share it, or go back to it for MYSELF as a point of reference if I need it.
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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Apr 29 2012 : 06:44:18 PM |
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LilAngels ~> We have Vetricyn where I work..It sounds like a good idea to keep on hand..And again, You are too kind to offer to mail some!
Wow Chosen!..That sounds terribly traumatic..I'm going to wait and re-introduce later..much later...I'll make time to have separate tent times.
I get NO clues from Willow that she is missing the baby.
Papa Widge, on the other hand, was still running back & forth, checking the pouch, over & over..I feel so sorry for him..He was such a good Daddy..It's a shame that relationship had to be interrupted..They were sooo sweet together.
I took the "nursery pouch" out & replaced it with another of his favorites..And I put all the other toys he loves back, including the pirate ship..So he can stay occupied.
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| Chosen12020
Super Glider
205 Posts
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Apr 30 2012 : 01:06:44 AM |
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Willows Tree, I don't know how I missed your comment about Weedles scratching at their nose with their foot,smh. I was reading too fast and skipped over it. If she *continues* to do that, I think that it would be a good idea to get an e-collar for her. You don't want her to open the wound more, or to infect it. That's if she *keeps* doing it.
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| graciedawn
Glider
198 Posts
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Apr 30 2012 : 11:19:12 PM |
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Sounds like you are doing a great job. I hand raised a joey several years ago (he is still with me) and we have the most amazing bond. A word of caution though: I chose not to put Rocky back with his parents because I didn't know why they rejected him. I worried that if it was a physical condition that I am unaware of that one day they may kill him. I am probably being an overprotective mom, but after hand raising him a becoming so attached, I couldn't take the chance that somewhere down the line something would happen. He has a buddy, his half sister Cali, and they are best buds.
If you have any questions or need any advice you can PM me. I don't mind sharing my experiences. There are also pics of Rocky in my photo album. My biggest help was Suzie's site and my vet.
Good luck and sending Positive thoughts your way!!!!!!
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| Mollysmom
Goofy Gorillatoes
MI, USA
2011 Posts
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May 01 2012 : 06:09:52 AM |
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Willows Tree--She is beautiful! You made the right decision to pull her. Keep up the great work! She is going to be super bonded to you, you know that, right?! Your bra baby forever! :)
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| AshleyJ
Glider
USA
158 Posts
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May 01 2012 : 07:49:09 AM |
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She's so cute! It looks like she is really doing great! She's very lucky to have you to take such great care of her!
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| Willows Tree
Fuzzy Wuzzy
USA
1294 Posts
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May 01 2012 : 09:23:57 AM |
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Thanks again Gracie, Molly'sMom, and AshleyJ!
We made it through another night!..and as a rule, I'm a bear if woken up..but that sweet little face melts my heart..I truly look forward to her waking me up...Can't say she feels the same..hehe
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| TJones09
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1991 Posts
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May 01 2012 : 09:37:05 AM |
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Willows, I couldn't blame you falling for that sweet suggie face! It's part of what makes all of fall in love with the little critters. I guess people just aren't as cute to them, lol.
Sounds like she's coming along, great job you're doing and thanks for all the updates, especially the photos.
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