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  | kyro298
Glider Sprinkles
        
CO, USA
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Apr 24 2012 : 01:05:10 AM    |
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It isn't that much to ask to make sentences! It's courtesy for anyone trying to communicate. It's simply forum etiquette...any forum. But, you already posted your dramatic "goodbye" post so I suppose it doesn't matter what anyone says at this point.
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  | Claire1622
Joey
32 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 01:40:55 AM   |
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Don't Leave! I'm like gymmom I do not post very often but this caught my eye. I like to read everyone's advice as it is always helpful. Erica was pretty rude, it is actually a proven fact that if you jumble up all the letters in a word as long as the first and last letters are the same that your brain read it almost the exact same. (I'm sure there are exceptions lol). Point being I type off my phone sometimes and it really isn't anyone place to correct if you put andd instead of and, honestly who cares? Why be so rude about something so trivial. Don't leave baby girl everyone here seems really sweet. I noticed erica didn't post anymore either. Just ignore it and I hope you stay:)
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  | Claire1622
Joey
32 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 01:42:12 AM   |
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You were just trying to be helpful also baby girl so thank you!
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  | AshleyJ
Glider

USA
158 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 08:13:03 AM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by StellaAnLuna</i> <br />Can you please spell correct, it's not hard to put "and" and to put "type". Im sorry you may have talked different in school, but those words are pretty basic.
~Erica~ <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Look, I agree that Baby.girl's posts are difficult to read. But, if you are going to be the grammar police, you should also double check your posts. Sure, you spelled everything correctly, but you made a couple of mistakes with grammar and punctuation.
The quote: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones comes to mind.
Just so we’re clear, that means people should not criticize other people for faults that they have themselves.
No one is perfect and we all come from very different backgrounds. We don’t know Baby.girl’s back story. We don’t know where she’s from or how she was raised. If you aren’t able to read her posts, then don’t read her posts. Someone else will. She may not be able to use correct grammar because she’s not from here or maybe she wasn’t afforded the same opportunities as you and I.
And before anyone tries to correct my post, I know there are grammar mistakes made here and I am okay with that.
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  | JazzNZoeysmom
Zippy Glidershorts
     
USA
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Apr 24 2012 : 09:04:03 AM   |
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I think some of you may be missing the point. No one is asking anyone to be perfect. We all make mistakes, but the fact is, from the time baby.girl started posting she would make extremely long posts with NO or very little punctuation and she substitutes words for other words....IN for AND.
It's not so bad on the shorter posts but the fact is, when she's asking for help and the post is a mile long, many of us just skip right over them.
I seriously tried to read several of her posts so I could help her and when people say it hurts their heads, they aren't joking. My head actually started hurting and I had to stop reading. As I said, I have tried several times but it happens every time so I have gotten to where I just skip her posts.
I don't like doing that. If I can help someone I would like to.
Then comes the fact that she has been asked very nicely in the past to stop doing it and it keeps happening...that's why some posts regaurding this may seem harsh at this point.
No one wants to see her go. And maybe when she goes to other forums because this one is so mean, she'll realize that proper forum etiquette is required on all forums, and actually, this one is one of the more lax forums. Most people don't say anything about the quirking little things some of us do so to me, her postings were extremely hard to read if people started making comments.
Just my 2 cents on this off topic topic. 
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  | sugie bandit
Super Glider
 
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Apr 24 2012 : 09:13:57 AM    |
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I have to agree. I tried, but can't read her posts, so I just skip over them. If everyone is skipping over someone because they can't be understood, no one is being helped.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JazzNZoeysmom</i> <br />I think some of you may be missing the point. No one is asking anyone to be perfect. We all make mistakes, but the fact is, from the time baby.girl started posting she would make extremely long posts with NO or very little punctuation and she substitutes words for other words....IN for AND.
It's not so bad on the shorter posts but the fact is, when she's asking for help and the post is a mile long, many of us just skip right over them.
I seriously tried to read several of her posts so I could help her and when people say it hurts their heads, they aren't joking. My head actually started hurting and I had to stop reading. As I said, I have tried several times but it happens every time so I have gotten to where I just skip her posts.
I don't like doing that. If I can help someone I would like to.
Then comes the fact that she has been asked very nicely in the past to stop doing it and it keeps happening...that's why some posts regaurding this may seem harsh at this point.
No one wants to see her go. And maybe when she goes to other forums because this one is so mean, she'll realize that proper forum etiquette is required on all forums, and actually, this one is one of the more lax forums. Most people don't say anything about the quirking little things some of us do so to me, her postings were extremely hard to read if people started making comments.
Just my 2 cents on this off topic topic.  <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
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  | prettyinpink5808
Fuzzy Wuzzy
   
CT, USA
1223 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 09:19:15 AM   |
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Made me chuckle
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  | sjones5254
Goofy Gorillatoes
    
SC, USA
2415 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 09:41:00 AM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by prettyinpink5808</i> <br />
Made me chuckle <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
     
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  | clk666
Glider

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Apr 24 2012 : 11:03:45 AM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by AshleyJ</i> <br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by StellaAnLuna</i> <br />Can you please spell correct, it's not hard to put "and" and to put "type". Im sorry you may have talked different in school, but those words are pretty basic.
~Erica~ <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Look, I agree that Baby.girl's posts are difficult to read. But, if you are going to be the grammar police, you should also double check your posts. Sure, you spelled everything correctly, but you made a couple of mistakes with grammar and punctuation.
The quote: People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones comes to mind.
Just so we’re clear, that means people should not criticize other people for faults that they have themselves.
No one is perfect and we all come from very different backgrounds. We don’t know Baby.girl’s back story. We don’t know where she’s from or how she was raised. If you aren’t able to read her posts, then don’t read her posts. Someone else will. <b>She may not be able to use correct grammar because she’s not from here or maybe she wasn’t afforded the same opportunities as you and I.</b>
And before anyone tries to correct my post, I know there are grammar mistakes made here and I am okay with that.
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Soooooo are we calling her foreign, poor and stupid?
that sounds a little harsh
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  | makalove
Joey
39 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 06:57:06 PM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JazzNZoeysmom</i> Then comes the fact that she has been asked very nicely in the past to stop doing it and it keeps happening...that's why some posts regaurding this may seem harsh at this point.
No one wants to see her go. And maybe when she goes to other forums because this one is so mean, she'll realize that proper forum etiquette is required on all forums [...]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You know, i wasn't going to, but i really feel like i need to chime in and say i just think it's appalling that people who want good, accurate information are being driven away from these forums by those who claim to be unable to understand their posts. If you don't want to read something, just don't. Those of us who are more patient or have a higher tolerance for others' mistakes will respond to the difficult ones, okay? That's far preferable to drive them away.
There are many reasons why someone might not write well. Those for whom English is a second language, those who have some learning disabilities, and those who simply don't have the education to be as literate as you are just a few of the people who might have problems with spelling and sentence structure. Do they have less right to communicate here than anyone else? i would say, "Absolutely not!"
As for the idea that spelling and sentence structure are "proper forum etiquette" - that shows a complete lack of awareness of the reality of the Internet.
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  | kyro298
Glider Sprinkles
        
CO, USA
15262 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 07:11:53 PM    |
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You missed the point completely. Who said no one wanted to read her posts? They were just very hard to decipher...skipping words, letting auto correct type and no punctuation, caps or thought separation of any kind is not how you communicate on a forum where the only way to communicate is by typing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. She stated many times that she was either in a rush, on her phone or just not paying attention. No language barrier or lack of education there. Forum etiquette is absolutely a given online. As a matter of fact, it's a RULE on other forums.
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  | GreenEyedMuse
Glider

USA
105 Posts
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Apr 24 2012 : 07:49:47 PM   |
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It's amusing that this is a topic because my last class in school was about online etiquette and how important it is. About how to convey yourself when writing to people who aren't your close "text friends". I will admit, although I am new here, I did skip over her posts because they were hard to read, and difficult to decipher what she was saying. To me it's easier to use & instead of saying "in" instead of "and", nor do I understand the point of typing.like.this. Isn't the space bar just as easy? I don't know her, have never spoken to her, but to save myself the headache I would skip her posts. Could I have missed something important form her, yes. But, that is a concequence of typing in a way that does not make a bit of sense. I'm sorry to see her go, and I'm sorry her feelings are hurt, but this is the internet and it happens all day every day. If I were her, I would have shrugged it off and taken a few extra seconds to stop using so many periods, and used the word and or the & symbol instead of using "in" in its place. JMHO
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  | love my babies
Joey
33 Posts
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Apr 25 2012 : 07:47:37 AM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kyro298</i> <br />You missed the point completely. Who said no one wanted to read her posts? They were just very hard to decipher...skipping words, letting auto correct type and no punctuation, caps or thought separation of any kind is not how you communicate on a forum where the only way to communicate is by typing. You are certainly entitled to your opinion. She stated many times that she was either in a rush, on her phone or just not paying attention. No language barrier or lack of education there. Forum etiquette is absolutely a given online. As a matter of fact, it's a RULE on other forums. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Is it possible that she's embarrassed by her lack of ability to communicate and uses the "I was in a rush" or "on my phone" or "not paying attention" as an excuse because she doesn't want to be perceived as stupid?
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  | kyro298
Glider Sprinkles
        
CO, USA
15262 Posts
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Apr 25 2012 : 08:55:05 AM    |
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How did I know you'd pop up, love my babies? Is it possible? Sure...as much as it's possible she was a young girl on her cell phone using text speak. Give me a freaking break. People have spelling and grammar mistakes on this forum more than they don't. It's rare for someone to go behind them and say anything. This girl had posts that were perfectly fine when she wanted to. Thanks for your input though, you always seem to find a way to randomly single out my posts...always. You should save your energy.
There is no point to this thread anymore either. Talk about beating a dead horse....
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  | Rowangel
Glider

USA
149 Posts
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Apr 25 2012 : 10:03:21 AM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by makalove</i> <br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JazzNZoeysmom</i> Then comes the fact that she has been asked very nicely in the past to stop doing it and it keeps happening...that's why some posts regaurding this may seem harsh at this point.
No one wants to see her go. And maybe when she goes to other forums because this one is so mean, she'll realize that proper forum etiquette is required on all forums [...]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
You know, i wasn't going to, but i really feel like i need to chime in and say i just think it's appalling that people who want good, accurate information are being driven away from these forums by those who claim to be unable to understand their posts. If you don't want to read something, just don't. Those of us who are more patient or have a higher tolerance for others' mistakes will respond to the difficult ones, okay? That's far preferable to drive them away.
There are many reasons why someone might not write well. Those for whom English is a second language, those who have some learning disabilities, and those who simply don't have the education to be as literate as you are just a few of the people who might have problems with spelling and sentence structure. Do they have less right to communicate here than anyone else? i would say, "Absolutely not!"
As for the idea that spelling and sentence structure are "proper forum etiquette" - that shows a complete lack of awareness of the reality of the Internet. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I don't post much, but I DO read and follow many posts and spend quite a bit of time searching forums for answers to my questions. So from personal experience if someone REALLY wants help, they will make the effort to find it. 95% of what people ask on a forum can be EASILY found with a quick search, because it has been discussed 100 times already. So serious people looking for good, accurate information should <i>never </i>be driven away just because a few 'claim to be unable to understand their posts,' most of it is already there at the ready.
If people want clarification on something or can't find what they are looking for, a serious poster is not going to stop from asking/getting the information just because one person said something 'mean,' it's irrelevant. If it is information you need, who cares how you get it as long as it is correct?
The real issue is most people use a forum for personal interaction. I am NOT saying the information shared isn't vital, but for some people it is secondary to connecting to like minded people and sharing experiences. That being said, when I talk to people I do not personally know I will try and make an effort to communicate clearly. This becomes even MORE important if I am seeking help. How sad would it be if the one person with the info I need skipped my post because I refused to take the extra couple of minutes to add punctuation?
Proper forum etiquette is something subjective, however I think it is polite to at least make an effort, ESPECIALLY when dealing with a GROUP of people from all areas, experiences and languages. It's one thing if it's a language barrier, another if it is laziness. I may use short hand when dealing with close friends, but I would never presume on a forum where you never know who exactly you are dealing with; I think that shows a lack of awareness of the reality of the Internet because this happens on ALL forums.
Believe it or not, what drives me away from forums are not those who come off as hypercritical, but those who obviously are not making an effort. Add to the list trolls, attention hogs, drama queens and post-count bumpers...I simply find what I need and ignore the rest.
Anyway, I am sorry if I offended anyone, I really am very nice, but if I did please feel free to ignore me (or tell me off!), I am not perfect but I like to think I try!
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  | sugie bandit
Super Glider
 
252 Posts
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Apr 25 2012 : 10:14:08 AM    |
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Rowangel, I agree with you completely, and I don't feel that my toes have been stepped on.
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  | Rowangel
Glider

USA
149 Posts
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Apr 26 2012 : 02:03:11 PM   |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sugie bandit</i> <br />Rowangel, I agree with you completely, and I don't feel that my toes have been stepped on. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Good thing you've never been around me when I try to dance...I would worry for your toes!
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  | sugie bandit
Super Glider
 
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Apr 26 2012 : 02:17:20 PM    |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Rowangel</i> <br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sugie bandit</i> <br />Rowangel, I agree with you completely, and I don't feel that my toes have been stepped on. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Good thing you've never been around me when I try to dance...I would worry for your toes! <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Ahhhh....me, too! Good thing I have a husband that just kinda' drags me around the dance floor. He really makes me look good!
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  | dancingbeyor
Face Hugger
  
423 Posts
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Apr 26 2012 : 02:41:58 PM   |
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Personaly I can read her posts fine. But perhaps this is because I am 12 and used to the way my friends type. I have had a little trouble understanding them once or twice though. If she chooses to leave because of just criticism then let her leave. Not to be rude but thats my 2 cents.
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  | josiec
Super Glider
 
OR, USA
226 Posts
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Apr 26 2012 : 02:44:34 PM   |
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Oh god I thought this thread was dead xD
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  | sugie bandit
Super Glider
 
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Apr 26 2012 : 02:53:42 PM    |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by josiec</i> <br />Oh god I thought this thread was dead xD <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
It's about dancing now 
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  | dancingbeyor
Face Hugger
  
423 Posts
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Apr 26 2012 : 02:58:38 PM   |
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I can step on your toes too! Lol
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  | sugie bandit
Super Glider
 
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Apr 26 2012 : 03:02:37 PM    |
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dancingbeyor</i> <br />I can step on your toes too! Lol <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
We should have a dance party. Don't forget your steel toed boots!
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  | josiec
Super Glider
 
OR, USA
226 Posts
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Apr 26 2012 : 03:13:25 PM   |
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Oooo dancing I can do! Lol kinda
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