This lady is selling a bonding pouch that comes with a leash set...she says for suggies and 'small animals'. I've never heard of putting another small animal in a bonding pouch. Should I inform her that putting suggies on a leash is VERY wrong and can also be very harmful to them?

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Found this one from her too:
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Sure-I did.

Just now? Well, I'll send her something too!

Definitely. It could be that she doesnt know or that she doesn't care but none the less at least you informed her. :)

Yes-I just did after seeing the ads

Well GO Kyro! LOL. I said this, Hope I didn't come off rude...

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I just thought I'd inform you that I was very interested in some of your bonding pouches (they are great). I do not know if you are aware of this or not, but it is very wrong and harmful to sugar gliders to put leashes on them. They have very sensitive skin where the leashes go under their arms and it could very easily cut them. Now that you've been informed of the seriousness of this situation I truly hope you do not continue to sell these for sugar gliders.

Thank you very much for your time :-D

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:) sounds good to me!!!

Well, yours was worded much better than mine LOL Maybe I'll email again and tell her I'm sorry it came off so cold and it wasn't supposed to. Here's mine:

Sorry-not to be nosey, but you are putting sugar gliders in grave danger by selling leashes for them. They glide, they jump-it's their nature. They have been known to choke to death on a leash and tear their gliding membranes. If you want the documentation, websites, etc... let me know. It's so, so dangerous. A new owner would not know any better and probably snatch one of these up. Please, please at least place a strong warning or remove sugar glider from the title. I'm truly not trying to be rude but it's a HUGE danger-it does and has caused deaths.

Your's wasn't rude at all. Just stern. I'd tell you if I thought it was rude. If I hadn't have read and been on this forum before I got my suggies, I would have thought a leash would have been the cutest idea...So, I think it's really important that we said something. Maybe she didn't know, I HOPE she didn't. And now she does...I am just very curious if we are going to get mean responses. That would not be very good for her business!

Well keep us updated, I am curious!! :) Kyro there's no need to email her back, I thought what you said was fine...sounded more like motherly love :) not rudeness. :P

I will also e-mail this person when I get home from work tonight. Maybe they just dont know the dangers and need to be educated. (Let's hope!)

Charlee- you said that you'd never heard of putting another animal in a bonding pouch--

I thought you might be interested to know that I used to have a short tailed opossum, and we used bonding pouches on him, too. They're tiny, little opossums no bigger than a mouse. So, maybe people use pouches with pet mice too? Anyway, I thought you might be interested. :)

Well, I didn't know that. But would it be okay to put a leash on an opossum? I know nothing about them at all. I was trying to make a point to her by saying that the bonding pouch was obviously for a sugar glider and that a leash shouldnt come with a bonding pouch that is for a sugar glider.

I never got the whole leash thing and even if it was not harmful, I still don't understand it because if a suggie is bonded to you it should not need a leash, they always come right back.

Well...I got a response..I tried!

"Thank you for your concern.
As owner and operator of a small pet shop I have had the opportunity to work with a lot of exotic and domestic animals There is not any leash that is 100% safe without injur if it is not used properly. Anytime any items is attached to any animal is should be done so with supervision. I have heard many stories down through the years about animals in different restraints and I have to be honest and say that there have been more tragic stories from pets not on any restraints than there has been those on restraints.

However I will tell you that as a 5 year breeder of Sugar Gliders I personally do not like the leashes but I do for the sake of my gliders train the babies on a leashes. I do not like hearing the stories that the dog ate my glider or the cat caught my glider when it got away while I was trying to bond ith it. Or worst two of all, my glider got away from me and drown in the toilet or dish water and worst yet, my glider jumped from and landed on a burning candle. All these are stories that have come from my customers.

Just for added information my leashes do not restrict the gliding membrane they attach around the neck where a bead slides for closure. This a leash not a harness although it is not stated in the listing there are instructions on the package.

If you decide that you would like to purchase this pouch set I can subsitute the leash for a different FREE gift.

Thank you for your comments"

thats somewhat amusing!
its so funny how ignorant people can be.

Hahahahahaha I got the same one:

Thank you for your concern.
As owner and operator of a small pet shop I have had the opportunity to work with a lot of exotic and domestic animals. There is not any leash that is 100% safe without injury if it is not used properly. Anytime any item is attached to any animal it should be done so with supervision. I have heard many stories down through the years about animals in different restraints and I have to be honest and say there have been more tragic stories from pets not on any restraints than there has been those on restraints.
However I will tell you that as a 5 year Breeder of Sugar Gliders I personally do not like the leashes but I do for the sake of my gliders train the babies on a leashes. I do not like hearing stories that the dog ate my glider or the cat caught my glider when it got away while I was trying to bond with it. Or the worst two of all my glider got away from me and drown in the toilet or dish water and the worst yet, my glider jumped from me and landed on a burning candle. All these are stories that have come from my customers.

Just for added information my leashes do not restrict the gliding membrane they attach around the neck where a bead slides for closure. This is a leash not a harness Although it is not stated in the listing there are instruction of the package.

If you decide that you would like to purchase this pouch set I can substitute the leash for a different FREE gift.

Thank you for your comments.
Robin

p.s. I wasnt laughing about the situation, I was laughing about the fact that Kyro and I got the same email.

Tell me about it! People can be very ignorant especially when it's something they don't want to hear!!

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Originally posted by kyro298


"Just for added information my leashes do not restrict the gliding membrane they attach around the neck where a bead slides for closure. "

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Oh, well then, at least they don't glide or anything so they can choke themselves!! Strange defense.

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However I will tell you that as a 5 year breeder of Sugar Gliders I personally do not like the leashes but I do for the sake of my gliders train the babies on a leashes.

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I bet you she was lying....I even hate the way she says it like..."well since I have so and so many years of experience, I just know better than you...."

You know, if you don't want a dog to eat a glider, dont' have a dog in the same room as you when you have the glider out.

If you don't want it to jump on a burning candle for god's sake don't burn a candle near the glider.

I Think when I have kids I"ll just put them on leashes so they can't possibly hurt themselves, that's much easier than making good responsible choices.

I'd like to also know how to leash train a glider, Neo had a leash and we used it for a while but he never liked it, he was much more behaved as a bra baby :D

haha maybe we should just email her all of these post haha

I think she is either aggravated or tired of responding, i sent her a message two days ago and she hasnt responded

Sounds like she has heard this before. And she has a "form" letter as her response, of which most of it didnt make sense.

I agree Rita. And, I think we should just email her this forum.

You would think that if she has heard it so many times that it might actually be true and she is actually wrong...but no! u know what it probably is...she learned she can do that from the guy at the flee market who does it...and we all know hes always doing the best for a sugar glider.

I have posted about this vendor on a couple of the other forums.

people can always purchase stuff form her and give bad feedback.

Ha! That letter response is priceless. I can't even imagine using a leash on my gliders. They would be so confused. And besides, if a leash can cause injury (which the seller admits), you would think she wouldn't sell them.

By the way, if I'd ever put a leash on my opossum, he would have looked at me with one seriously confused face. :)

I do occasionally put a leash on my ferrets, but they just wriggle out of it. :)