Hailey now known as Mici (Breeder named her Hailey, but I finally decided on a name for her) will soon have a cage mate to love forever hehe His name is Nico and is 100% Leu Het Male. My poor Mici has been alone for about a month now, and waiting very patiently for a cage mate, and just this past week I found a little man just 2 weeks younger than her on GC. I am so excited!!! Hehe Pictures of him are in my photo bucket, he is just so handsome and cute!!! And from what the breeder has told me he loves to play with any kind of toy that makes noise and loves his stealth wheel, that is why I asked earlier this week if anyone knew where I could get one, his wheel came in yesterday and is all ready for him to play with when he gets here!!!! Mici and I cant wait for him to get here!!!

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Have you made an appointment for a vet checkup and neuter?

Everyone in the house hold has been to the vet and checked out ok, (after the 4 weeks of worming) since the round worm and etc.

I will be making an appt to have Nico and Mici checked out again after the 30 days is up, before I introduce him to Mici. (Nico isn’t here yet)

I went to a bird shop around here today and found huge cage that normally sells for $389.95 and I got it for $150!! Sugargliderstore.com sells them and it’s called a Sugar Glider Cage / Hexigonal. Anyone have this cage? Why do you like it? Anything you don’t like about it?

so you're getting him neutered?

is a 100% WFB Leu Het sugar glider an all white suggie?
i know that sounds dumb that i dont know that!


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No... WFB means (white face blonde), and the 100% het means that both of the parents were WFB but he is not, though he does carry the gene. Anyone can correct me if I am wrong. Oh and the white one is the leucistic or bew (black eyed white).

ok i made an error about Nico, his mother is a wfb and his father is a leu but that doesnt make Nico a wfb Leu Het, he is classic grey coloring (although his mother is a wfb). But he is 100% Leu Het.

why is that so important?

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why is that so important?

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Because this person hasn't exactly been truthful with regard to her gliders. This history of deception is very important if this person wants to start breeding gliders.

so if she didn't than what?

I am not getting Nico neutered because I do plan to breed him in the future with Mici. Both come from reputable breeders with lineage.

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Hailey now known as Mici (Breeder named her Hailey, but I finally decided on a name for her) will soon have a cage mate to love forever hehe His name is Nico and is 100% Leu Het Male. My poor Mici has been alone for about a month now, and waiting very patiently for a cage mate, and just this past week I found a little man just 2 weeks younger than her on GC. I am so excited!!! Hehe Pictures of him are in my photo bucket, he is just so handsome and cute!!! And from what the breeder has told me he loves to play with any kind of toy that makes noise and loves his stealth wheel, that is why I asked earlier this week if anyone knew where I could get one, his wheel came in yesterday and is all ready for him to play with when he gets here!!!! Mici and I cant wait for him to get here!!!

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Debbie is not going to answer that question because she DOES plan on breeding, everything she has done has been in her quest for a LEU, that is all that matters to her.

Also, what is that about Hailey being by herself?
After Daisy died, you put Hailey, Rastafeeki and Peitry together, remember that Debbie?

Now she is by herself and has been, okay, I see you are putting gliders together and splitting them up again. Oh yeah, you have to cause Rastafeeki is not a 100% leu het so he is disposable huh?

hmmm well considering TWILSON this is your first reply...I think you replied to just start stuff...so take it somewhere else..i was asking for information from Eric, not to start *...

And in all honesty...we all make mistakes and for someone to constantly point out someones mistakes and not them learn and move on...that makes me wonder how many times you messed up...and are just trying to cover it by pinpointing fingers at someone else...

Good luck with your breeding when the time comes imyosuggie...hopefully the past has taught and the future will learn...

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hmmm well considering TWILSON this is your first reply...I think you replied to just start stuff...so take it somewhere else..i was asking for information from Eric, not to start *...

And in all honesty...we all make mistakes and for someone to constantly point out someones mistakes and not them learn and move on...that makes me wonder how many times you messed up...and are just trying to cover it by pinpointing fingers at someone else...

Good luck with your breeding when the time comes imyosuggie...hopefully the past has taught and the future will learn...

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Yes, this is my first post on here but not my first rodeo with Imyo, thank you.

It isn't starting anything and I don't need to be policed by you, last I checked, this is Eric's and Kasko's board and they can tell me what I can and can't do here.

Honey, you need to read up on Imyo, get your information straight. I am not pointing fingers at anyone, merely stating the truth.

As far as me messing up with my gliders, never happened, sorry. I could take shoe polish and paint one of mine white and it still wouldn't be as bad as what Imyo has done.

well than leave your rodeo somewhere else...I'm like most people here and tired of the immature drama...so just be helpful not hateful.

oh by the way...almost seems like you are creepy stalking her......if your rodeo was somewhere else...your one remark is to attack someone...hhhhmmmm...yeah that makes me think you were out to start something and you know it...

That is is exactly, you try to help someone regardless of what they have or haven't done. I tried along with alot of other people and it fell on deaf ears, it was complete disregard for gliders. During this time, Imyo had 3 gliders die since Feb. and still continued to do the same.

I don't want to fight with you T&J, I don't know you all I know is what Imyo has done and it appears nothing has changed with her. She has been banned permanently from several glider board for what she has done and still continues to do.

All I can do is pray for karma and here is to hoping that just dessert are served up generously.

i read what happen. i read all the forums...sounds like some people know some part of the story and some people know another...no one is EVER going to knw what really happen...

and the fact that is was asked to end the remarks against someone and that person went ahead and made a post sayin they were not going too...why?...why not just leave it alone...

The dates don't match at anyones end...She has her dates and the other gal had hers...

how do you know that she ddnt put them together (all 3) and had to seperate bc of something we dnt know about?...and that is why the female has been alone....and ddnt she seperate a brother and sister that were inbreeding...and yet your remark was 'putting gliders together and splitting them up again'. are you in her house...do you keep an intact brother with his sister?...I don't know your household...and you don't know hers...

No one really knows the truth...so just let it go! If she wants to try again with breeding so be it!!! its not your life!! sounds like otherwise the animal care is good..she found out there was a problem..admitted it...asked for help...and got attacked!!! she has taken efforts to get them vet care and medicine...how many people do we see in and out of here that DON'T...

Plus!! she did have it listed in the post what was wrong with Daisy...and the lady with Butters was like 'what is wrong with yours i have to know.." UH IT WAS LISTED RIGHT THERE!! and for her to have waited till imyo had probelms to attack her about it? why didnt she call imyo herself and ask if she was having medical issues with Butters? would that not have been the most appropriate thing to do?

there are to many things that went wrong there b/c it was not a mature interaction b/w imyo and butters mom. to many people were involved...it all went south...just let it go and let people move on...imyo is still here...still learning like anyone else...and she deserves to learn about her pets like anyone else without being attacked!!!

Tate and Jodi, what are your feelings on the following:

1) A picture of a glider is posted on a board and it is pointed out by several members (all w/years of experience) that the glider looks ill. The glider is said to be 10 years old and a personal pet so will be taken to the vet right away. When it was asked what the vet said, the reply was "I forgot to call because of all the drama here." It was then said that the glider would be seen the next day. That day, an ad went up on Craig's List w/a pic of that same glider. The ad read 3 year old glider for sale. When it was pointed out that this pic was of the same glider, the posted said she was told by her vet that the glider was only 3. The vet told her that when the glider was seen the day before. The purchaser asked about the gldier's history and if the glider could be bred. The poster replied yes and encouraged using the "buy now" button to complete the sale. No questions were asked of the buyer. The glider was bought and taken to a vet. The glider was very ill. The vet records were gotten from the vet the poster said had seen the glider. The glider had not been seen in over a month. At that vet visit, the glider was treated for calcium deficiency but no follow up was done. Do you think it was ok to sell this glider, whose history was unknown and say she could be used for breeding?
2) When glider sitting, do you feel it would be ok to put that female glider in w/intact males?
3) Do you recommend not doing quarantine to ensure that gliders are healthy before introducing them to other gliders?
4) Is it acceptable to split established pairs of gliders in order to sell them?
5) Is it ok to make a mistake, get the correct advice and then repeat that same "mistake" again?
6) Do you feel it is wrong to do what you can to ensure gliders are safe and taken care of?

I am curious as to your answers. I have done rescue work for a few years and seen many gliders come through. I have helped everyone I can to learn more about gliders. I have made mistakes before, but have learned from them, corrected them and never repeated them. I don't judge anyone's personal lives but I do what I can to help every glider. I don't breed and I neuter all males...am a firm believer in neutering. I am always willing to help those who want help, but am not afraid to speak the truth when I see a situation that's harmful to gliders that is continuing. Unfortunately, there are so many scammers/trollers/bad folks out there. The rescuers try to share this information to prevent more gliders from falling into harms way. I've seen good and bad. I don't support those who refuse to learn and I don't engage in cliques. My only concern is for the gliders.

Tate and Jodi,

Debbie hasn't been banned from this forum because I have given her the benefit of the doubt and hoped that she would change and not be so hellbent on breeding exotic high priced gliders. In this world we are judged by our actions, and Debbie has not done anything to make me think that's she's changed in any way. In fact, she's done quite the opposite because she often deletes or edits her own forum posts when asked a direct question about her gliders. Secrecy is not how one gains people's trust.

Being that I live in Texas where there is such an abundance of free and cheap gliders, I am extremely jaded when it comes to people breeding sugar gliders for unnatural colorations. I do not respect this practice at all.

I have only been banned from 1 website and that was GC and I was banned from that website because I told twilson and thefotokat that if they didn’t stop bashing me, slandering me, harassing me and stalking me that I would press charges, and making threats is against the rules on GC, I didn’t think that was fair so I then created another account on GC which was RetroGliders and the admins found out and then banned me.

Yes 3 gliders have died in my care but they weren’t my fault, they were accidents or illnesses. You can’t control everything, and I have read many things everywhere, where ppl leave the cage doors open by accident and the glider ends up in the toilet or another family pet gets a hold of it. Why those mistakes and accidents are excused but not mine? 2 Gliders died because they were ill (I know I said that one of the gliders was killed by a male, but I am not sure of this for I never saw any wounds on her, so it has to be assumed an illness), and 1 died because the dog I was sitting attacked the cage it was in and knocked it over and the glider got out and the dog got her.


I have asked you both to please leave me alone and stop stalking me all over the place. Everyone knows on every site who I am and what I have done, so why do you both feel you need to keep bringing it up and posting on every topic I make? You two are the only people that think I am such a bad person. I have had so many people contact me through email and PM telling me that you both are so immature and what you did and are doing is worse than what I have done. Again I am asking you both to leave me alone and let this all go.

I don't think anything else needs to be said.

Debbie, if you continue with your plan to breed sugar gliders, then that is your prerogative. I do hope you're in the process of getting your Class A USDA license and that you're also adhering to Florida state laws with regard to housing.