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May 12 2008
07:57:50 AM
I have read the forums and know that ring worms can cause diahrea but what other causes are there? Manny was up this morning at 8:30 which is unusual at this time for him and had major diahrea, I am thinking about getting some deworming meds and trying that. I have had him for 3 weeks and this just started happening, could it possibly be diet change? I fed them veggies, chicken, and fruit. Does it make a difference on how I cook the chicken?
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May 12 2008
08:01:28 AM
Rach Face Hugger GliderMap Visit Rach's Photo Album 626 Posts
there are many things that could be the cause.
diet change, bacterial infection, fungal infection (thrush), stress.
if its a once of then I wouldnt be too worried but if it continues over 24hrs then take him to a vet.
Keep the fluids up or he may become dehydrated.
get some pedilyte from the chemist its often used for ppl who have had the runs.
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May 12 2008
08:43:42 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
How much pedialyte should I give him? Thanks for the advice :) I am thinking maybe it is a combination of stress and diet change. His original owner got bored with him and gave him to my friend and then my friend gave him to me. This all occured in one month.
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May 12 2008
08:50:34 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
awwwwww! that poor little guy! :( hope he starts feeling better and found a permanent home! :)
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May 12 2008
09:06:36 AM
TWilson Joey 31 Posts
Don't give worm meds unless he has worms and the only way to tell that is with a fecal check done by a vet.

Plain canned pumpkin with nothing else added will help to stop the problem. You can offer some as a licky treat.

Pedialyte can be given in a water bowl and offered as a free choice, let him drink as much as possible.

He needs to be checked for dehydration, you can do that by picking up the skin on his back. If it stays up, he is dehydrated and needs to get to the vet immediately.

Has you little one ever had fecal checks? Giardia can be a main cause of diarrhea
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May 12 2008
09:17:32 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Definitely don't give any kind of meds without seeing a vet first. Too much yogurt has been said to cause it (I have not experienced this) as can too much citrus. I thought pumpkin makes them go more? No matter what, if it keeps up, he should go straight to the vet. Dehydrations is a serious concern for these little ones and it's best to be safe than sorry. If he's lethargic and is not eating or drinking, you should not wait at all.
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May 12 2008
09:33:54 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
I definatly do not want to wait if it does not clear up tonight. My husband wants to avoid taking him to the vet but if it does not clear up then I don't see what choice I have..... It is very frustrating for me because I do not want to overeact and take him if it clears up or is not needed but at the same time his health is more important than saving a trip to the vet. I will check on him tonight and give you guys an update. I will try the pedialte and see if that does the trick :)
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May 12 2008
09:35:08 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
Definitely keep us updated and good luck!
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May 12 2008
09:37:51 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
The other reason for people pushing the vet is because suggies tend to not show any kinds of sickness or problems until they are already very sick and it's hard for them to bounce back without proper care. If he's waking up during the day to still go, honestly, he probably needs to be seen to be given fluids. Hopefully, it's something as simple was what he ate recently and he's done. Definitely watch for him drinking water as that's incredibly important.
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May 12 2008
09:52:29 AM
Rach Face Hugger GliderMap Visit Rach's Photo Album 626 Posts
Its best not to try and bind him up with pumpkin unless you know the cause of the runs
by binding him up you may be masking the problem. for instance if he has a bacterial infectin then by binding him up you are not allowing the infection to be eliminated, the body way of getting rid of something foreign in the body is to do things like throwing up or having the runs
Dont use any meds unless prescribed by the vet.
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May 12 2008
09:57:00 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
I agree with you on that :) I am crossing my fingers that it was just a one time thing. I will have my husband check on him during lunch. I am def really concerned since I had my other suggie and she has never had this problem. I cannot be sure 100% sure but I thought he may have thrown up since I saw some sort of whitish flem ( at least that is what I thought I saw). Maybe it was the chicken I fed them... Does it make a difference how I prepare the chicken?
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May 12 2008
10:09:00 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
don't fry the chicken or use any kind of seasoning. You can use honey to add flavor. You can boil or bake the chicken and want to shred it. Take out any bones so the gliders can't get a hold of them. I am sure others have more ideas on the chicken.
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May 12 2008
10:41:43 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
I made sure there was no seasoning and I actually cooked it on the skillet (not fried). I just thought about something, Manny was on a diet that did not include veggies. I am starting to think it is just his body reacting to the different diet. Thanks for the advice everyone :)
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May 12 2008
10:49:42 AM
TWilson Joey 31 Posts
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Originally posted by sunnypanda

I cannot be sure 100% sure but I thought he may have thrown up since I saw some sort of whitish flem ( at least that is what I thought I saw).



If he is throwing up along with diarrhea, he really needs to get to the vet asap.

Suggies will go downhill really fast with both of these going on. It sounds like there is a very serious problem with your little one.
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May 12 2008
10:59:01 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
yeah I am really concerned. I want to see if it clears up tonight and if it doesn't I am going to take him to the vet asap.
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May 12 2008
11:14:31 AM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
You should call the Vet to make your appointment - even if it's for tomorrow. Exotic vets are extremely busy and their appointment books fill up fast. Since you recently got him, he should have a Wellness exam with a fecal anyway to rule out any potential problems.
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May 12 2008
11:25:04 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
did you check to see if he was dehydrated?
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May 12 2008
11:27:57 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
I wasn't able to, I am at work, but I have asked my husband to check on him during lunch. He should be calling me really soon.
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May 12 2008
11:44:05 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
Let us know. If that is the case I wouldn't hesitate to take him to the vet. Honestly, if he were mine and were vomiting with diahrea I would have already taken him to the vet. Only b/c like most have said once a glider shows signs of sickness it is really hard, w/o the proper care, to rehabilitate them. But if he is still vomiting or has diarhea when you get home definitely take him to the vet. Hopefully it's just the change in diet and environment and nothing serious. :) Good Luck again!!!
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May 12 2008
12:05:29 PM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
Well here is an update, My husband checked on Manny and he did the skin test, He said it stayed up and then went down quickly. He checked lola too and she was fine, hers went down faster of course. He went for the water as soon as my hubby let him out and there was not a sign of diahrea in the cage. I will check him out for myself and see what I think. I am going to tenatively schedule a visit. I was planning on taking them for a check up especially since I am not sure what Manny has been exposed to, but I will probably end up doing this sooner.
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May 12 2008
12:15:13 PM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
That is good to hear! I would do as you said and keep checking up on him... you can never be to careful. If he has not been to the vet for a check up and stool sample then I would definitely schedule an appointment. For both of my gliders it cost 130.00. But I live in kentucky so I am not sure what it would cost you. But that should give you an idea.
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May 12 2008
12:17:58 PM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
I am a little bit relieved definatly but we are not in the clear yet. My hubby thinks I am overeacting which I tend to do with everything especially with my babies. I always say it is better to be safe than sorry!
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May 12 2008
05:00:12 PM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
Well Lovinglife, I went ahead and scheduled an appoint for Wednesday since Manny seems to be doing better. Man it is expensive! $90 a glider but they want to do a stain on both to check parasites as well as a fecal. I am going to ask the vet if the stain is really needed or not.... I just wanted a regular exam and a fecal but if that is what they need then that is what they will get :)
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May 12 2008
07:08:57 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
Yes - the fecal is needed. Parasites are life threatening to gliders.

My Weasel came to me with roundworm, which is why I'm always preaching about Wellness Exams with Fecals ASAP.
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May 12 2008
07:19:23 PM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
I am definatly getting a fecal other wise the whole exam would be pointless. But they said that they wanted to do a stain in addition to the fecal, that is what I was questioning. I am going to go with whatever the vet recommends :) Might as well get everything checked out while I am there to prevent anything bad from happening! How can gliders get exposed to ring worm....? Just curious since they are not like dogs or cats that get it from exposure from outside and mosquitos. Well Manny does not seem severly dehydrated and he seems fine. We will see on Wednesday when I take them both to the vet.
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May 12 2008
07:23:18 PM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
That's great that you made a vet appt! :) Hopefully everything turns out well! Mine go to the vet a week after I have them. That was the earliest I could get an appt. with my work schedule. I will let you know the total when I am done. It always seems like they add on to it while you are there haha. Darn vets!!! :)
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May 12 2008
08:06:45 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
A fecal stain is when they put a smear of poo on a slide and look at it under a microscope to determine if there are parasites or bacteria present.
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May 13 2008
07:50:36 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
Gotcha Rita, I thought that the fecal exam included all of that but apparently they are separate charges, Vets are great but I do have to agree with Loving life, they add on extra things and sometimes they are not necessary ( I suppose depending on your vet!)I can think of a time like that where I took my dogs for shots and a wellness exam, then not even 3 months later I had to take my dog for another shot and they said that I had to pay an extra $50 for yet another wellness exam.
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May 13 2008
08:47:55 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
haha aren't we suckers for our pets or what!!!!! haha
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May 13 2008
09:54:53 AM
sunnypanda Super Glider 211 Posts
We definatly are! I really flipped out yesterday over Manny. I was so worried about him. My husband thought I just overeacted, but Manny is just so little and it would not take much to make the little guy sick. Looks like it might have been the way I prepared the chicken. He didn't have the runs last night or this morning, but Lola was crabbing. I think she might be in heat again.
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May 13 2008
10:11:09 AM
LovingLife123 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit LovingLife123's Photo Album LovingLife123's Journal USA 1069 Posts
I am glad to hear he is doing better. And at least now you are taking him to the vet for his checkup... so darn females haha
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