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Joey
   FL, USA
16 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:31:47 PM    |
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Ok I puchased what i was told was a mosaic. By looking at the picture can any one tell me if I was misled because she cost $4,200
Edited by - FloridaSugarBreeder on Oct 27 2009 04:34:09 PM
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| Catman
Face Hugger
 CO, USA
1782 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:36:04 PM   |
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OMG!
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 | Something_To_Believe_In
Glider
244 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:37:54 PM |
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Yes, one can tell by looking at a picture. WHEN did you purchase her and who did you purchase her from?
Post the picture here.
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| best_friendz2
Super Glider
829 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:42:45 PM |
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I def. don't thunk that a mosaic
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| Catman
Face Hugger
CO, USA
1782 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:43:11 PM |
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He posted a picture.
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| Catman
Face Hugger
CO, USA
1782 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:44:54 PM |
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FloridaSugarBreeder are you a breeder? Are you wanting to be a breeder?
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| kyro298
Cuddle Bear
CO, USA
11119 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:46:25 PM |
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| kyro298
Cuddle Bear
CO, USA
11119 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:48:37 PM |
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Does she have white patches?
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| Something_To_Believe_In
Glider
244 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:51:37 PM |
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To tell if she is a mosaic, we need to see full body pictures, especially of the neck, hands and tail.
Again, WHO did you purchase from?
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| kyro298
Cuddle Bear
CO, USA
11119 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 04:56:41 PM |
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That price is insane.
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| tootles
Face Hugger
1826 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 05:03:18 PM |
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I am confused here! You have two ad's in classifieds one today and one earlier. The first one you are looking for a free glider to pair up with dutchess. Then the second one you are looking to buy a mo or leu. So I am confused did you just get duchess? Is she now the glider in question here?
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| kyro298
Cuddle Bear
CO, USA
11119 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 05:04:56 PM |
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Yeah, the picture said "Duchess in her pouch" or something to that affect.
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 | tootles
Face Hugger
1826 Posts
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Oct 27 2009 : 05:06:32 PM |
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If duchess is the same glider with the leash on I would say Grey! But I am still confused because you already had duchess so who is the new glider in question? And now you are wanting to buy a mo or leu? You seem to be asking many people on ad's if their gliders are still avaliable it looks like trolling to me.
Edited by - tootles on Oct 27 2009 05:10:58 PM
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| Catman
Face Hugger
CO, USA
1782 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 11:13:44 AM |
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Looks like you got ripped off. Are you really a newly Licensed breeder?
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| FloridaSugarBreeder
Joey
FL, USA
16 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 11:34:16 AM |
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WOW many replies.
Yes I have two classified ads. I am not sure what "trolling" means so idk what to say about that.
I am a newly licensed breeder and am looking for a male mate for Dutchess.
She is the one I am asking if she is in fact mosaic.
I removed the picture of her in a leash because I was told thats a no no. I also threw the leash away.
I am VERY distraught with the possiblity I was taken advantage of.
Dutchess's mother Juliette was white mostly with light blond/brown patches,
Father Romeo, was grey and blond faced.
So what do I do?
I am learning so please keep in mind I don't know it all and asking so I can do the right things with my lil lday Dutchess.
Thats why I Immediatly threw away her leash.
There is no need to be rude, I truley need some help.
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| Catman
Face Hugger
CO, USA
1782 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 12:02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by FloridaSugarBreeder
There is no need to be rude, I truley need some help.
You really shoud have gliders more than a few weeks before you start breeding IMO. I dont think you will get too much help in the breeding dept. on this site.
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| tisha
Fuzzy Wuzzy
OK, USA
2081 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 01:31:36 PM |
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I agree with Catman here....Honestly, if you don't even know what color your glider is, I really don't think you need to be even CONSIDERING breeding. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just being completely honest with you. So, take it however you want.
http://www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_I...
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| thefotokat
Glider
125 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 01:33:01 PM |
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When you become a pet owner, you agree to take on all responsibilities involved w/caring for that animal's well being. To properly do that, you must educate yourself about that animal. Making the decision to breed any animal requires even more education on your part. You must know about the animal's life cycle, health, care of young, etc. You must also know your particular animal's behavior patterns so that you can ensure its safety and emotional well being during attempts at reproduction. It seems you've only had gliders for a very short time, and as you said, you are still learning. Learning is fantastic and it's something we all encourage. However, allowing your gliders to breed while you are still at this stage in your learning process is irresponsible. I'm not being rude, simply stating my opinion. I am a rescue home and I see, and deal with, the consequences of folks who get in over their head. I don't want to see any more gliders suffer because of an owner putting their wants over the gliders' well being. You say you threw away the leash when you learned it was dangerous. That's great and it was the right thing to do. Please continue on with your learning process and take it very slow. That is how you act in the gliders' best interests. I'm sure this is not what you want to hear, but you're not ready to be a breeder. Give yourself some time and learn so that you may grow into a responsible breeder who puts their gliders' well being above all else.
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| H
Glider
271 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 01:48:02 PM |
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I agree with Catman; A reputable breeder should have a substantial amount experience with gliders and a basic knowledge of the color variations before they begin breeding. I am not saying this in a condemning or judgmental way. It's just that there's so much to know and things could go awry pretty quickly. Are you prepared with rejected joey kits? I would highly recommend that you talk to a breeder to see what all is involved before choosing this path.
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| FloridaSugarBreeder
Joey
FL, USA
16 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 02:32:16 PM |
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Thank you all,
Yes I purchased a Rejected joey kit
From Suz's sugar glider kit.
I am continuing my education.
any references would greatly be appreciated.
I am in my 3rd month of research and got my first female.
*QUESTION
If a parent is in fact a Mosaic is it possible for offspring to not have similar markings?
I have researched Heterogeneous traits but I am no geneticists.
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| valkyriemome
Super Glider
USA
839 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 03:26:56 PM |
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I sell mosaic gliders. The pure white mosaics (not leus) are currently going for around $2000-3000. The minimally marked ones - which yours would be if she is indeed a mosaic - go for about $800-1000.
I see no mosaic markings at all on that picture. She might be a mosaic, but - doesn't look like it.
Do you have lineage? You are looking for just any ol' glider to mate with her? Without researching the lineage? You won't be able to sell any gliders to anyone who is seriously interested without lineage. You could maybe sell them as pets for a couple hundred.
I don't understand why you started out with a $4000 glider? Are you trying to get rich off of your glider breeding? Because- based on this post you don't really have enough experience to purchase a glider without getting ripped off - let alone breed. I'm not being rude, I'm just stating observations.
Yes, you got ripped off.
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| SamTom
Joey
USA
38 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 03:27:05 PM |
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If both parents are mosiac it is still possible for any offspring to not be a mosiac. Just as it is possible for a grey to give birth to a mosiac. There is no guarantee. However if the lineage of the parents is to produce mosiac the chances will be greater for any offspring to be mosiac.
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| valkyriemome
Super Glider
USA
839 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 03:35:36 PM |
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SamTom - that is not how the mosaic gene works.
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| Candy
Super Glider
USA
957 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 03:42:22 PM |
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How did you obtain your license? Generally the USDA will not process an application unless the breeder has a minimum of 3 breeding pairs.
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| Gizmo-n-Roos Mommy
Face Hugger
OH, USA
1279 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 03:48:00 PM |
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I am going to have to agree with the majority -- you should start as an owner and get experience BEFORE you start breeding. Not that I would condone breeding anyway with all of the unwanted babies out there for adoption and rescuing.
Aside from that, I would make darn sure I could identify all types (of anything!) with 100% accuracy before I shelled out $4,200 for him/her/it.
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| FloridaSugarBreeder
Joey
FL, USA
16 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 03:48:33 PM |
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Thank you all I am pulling my classified ads and will be doing much needed research!
Again thank you for your help.
Anyone caring to further help me I am sincerely seeking help in being a reputable breeder. I will not be placing any more ads for selling until I am ready.
Thank you for any more advice to come...
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| SariYappa
Glider
USA
411 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 04:01:47 PM |
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I have not seen any information on where and who you bought your Mo from? Did you ever get more pictures and find out if Dutchess is indeed a Mo??
It seems to me that you are listening, and may indeed really care for your gliders. If this is the case, then Bravo for having a thick skin, and doing the right thing. But to help you further, we need you to help us. Where is the information?
Thanks! And welcome to the glider world.
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| tisha
Fuzzy Wuzzy
OK, USA
2081 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 04:04:01 PM |
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"Anyone caring to further help me I am sincerely seeking help in being a reputable breeder.
Thank you for any more advice to come..."
Ummmm....
Edited by - tisha on Oct 29 2009 08:50:38 AM
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| SariYappa
Glider
USA
411 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 04:09:25 PM |
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so tisha, did I say something wrong?? I am responding to her/his post about pulling all her ads, backing off, and doing more research. Did I miss something? 
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| valkyriemome
Super Glider
USA
839 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 11:29:19 PM |
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Not that I saw, Sari! I am with you on this one.
I personally appreciate the thick skin and the willingness to learn more!
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| valkyriemome
Super Glider
USA
839 Posts
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Oct 28 2009 : 11:35:17 PM |
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Oh - so much for that. There's the Classified ad. Still there. Still offering "custom breeding." What a riot. Hoping to rip people off as badly as you were ripped off?
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