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Oct 28 2009
04:04:49 PM
i took my suggie in the bathroom for his frist time to play and he was just so freakin scared i gave him treats and everything and all he did was stand there and shake...what should i do? i really wanna play with him!
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Oct 28 2009
04:05:35 PM
tisha Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit tisha's Photo Album tisha's Journal OK, USA 2081 Posts
It takes time. Do you use the bonding pouch during the day? When did you get him?
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Oct 28 2009
04:09:43 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
i got him a couple of weeks ago and yeah i use the bonding pouch
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Oct 28 2009
04:10:52 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
When I first got mine, we did tent time and it took probably 2 weeks of me sitting in that tent for hours every night before they even dared venture out on their own. I didn't force them out...I brought in some toys and treats to get them curious and eventually, that got the best of them. They had to learn they could trust me and maybe it took longer than some, but it was very well worth it. If he's not ready to play, he's not going to. He'd be more likely to be more active and play if he had a friend.
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Oct 28 2009
04:20:30 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
yeah i know everyone tells me thast i need to get him a friend...but i am new to this suger glider stuff so i only want one for right now till i get it all figured out...and right now i don't have the money for another one nither cuz i just bought this one with all the money i had left in my bank for workin over the summer...ugh i need to get another job but i am still in school so that takes most of my time.by the way i am homed schooled so i got so much time to play with my suggie and i don't really go no wear in the day time and if i do i take him with me in his bonding pouch! i just don't know why he aint gettin use to me yet.he does bite some times and i tryed that psst thing but that don't seem to work...it's like he is trying to test me he will bite me then i will go psst and he will get scarred but come right back up and bite me again lol.
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Oct 28 2009
04:38:52 PM
snusie Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit snusie's Photo Album snusie's Journal USA 2962 Posts
Just be patient! It takes time, it can be a lot of time, for a glider to feel secure and confident. Don't give up. Take him back into the bathroom again, soon he'll start exploring. When did you take him to play? It should be at night, after he's had something to eat and is ready to burn off some energy. Yes, he's probably testing you with the biting; don't let him win. Be consistent, with both the "psst" and with the playtime, and when he learns what to expect he'll come around.

I've had a pair of brothers for almost a year, and I can play with them in the tent but they don't like to be held or petted or any other kind of affectionate contact. That's okay by me, I won't force them into anything they dislike so much. I can and will handle them enough to trim nails and to check them, and sometimes I get bitten when I'm doing these things; but it's getting to be less often. And they sure do climb on me and give me face hugs in the tent!
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Oct 28 2009
05:26:49 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
yeah i jus took him back in there 15 mins ago for a half hour now he started playin and climbing on me...my glider don't sleep in the day time till around 7 or 8 pm and then he gets up at night around 6 or 7 in the morneing...so i play with him in the bathroom in the day time.i am gonna start takeing him in the bathroom everyday for about 3 hours will that make him bond more with me?............i jus added 4 more pics of him that i jus took today while i was in the bathroom with him there in my main photo album!

Edited by - ambie420 on Oct 28 2009 05:42:12 PM
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Oct 28 2009
05:58:11 PM
huntman21014 Joey 30 Posts
Why do people on this forum think its ok to have 1? Didn't kazko just do a huge post about how they need a companion no matter how much time you can spend with them.
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Oct 28 2009
06:04:03 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
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Originally posted by huntman21014

Why do people on this forum think its ok to have 1? Didn't kazko just do a huge post about how they need a companion no matter how much time you can spend with them.


BECAUSE EVERYONE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR 2...YEAH THEY DO BETTER IN PAIRS BUT MY FRIEND HAS 1!!!!! AND SHE HAD IT FOR 2 YEARS ALREADY AND IT'S DOING FINE! SO FACT: YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO!

Edited by - ambie420 on Oct 28 2009 06:05:07 PM
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Oct 28 2009
06:05:29 PM
snusie Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit snusie's Photo Album snusie's Journal USA 2962 Posts
Ambie, the longer time you spend with him the sooner he's going to trust you. Now, he may end up like my two, and never be a really affectionate guy; but I have another who loves to come out with me, and will perch on my shoulder in the morning while I make coffee, and likes to meet new people. Maybe when he gets more used to you, yours will end up like that. He's really delightful every day.
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Oct 28 2009
06:08:46 PM
huntman21014 Joey 30 Posts
www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20771

Please read that and tell me they will be just fine, imagine you were plucked off earth and put on some strange and scary planet with strange things touching you, would you want to be alone or have someone else of your own species to have as a companion?

If you don't have the money for two you shouldn't have one.

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Oct 28 2009
06:09:02 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
yeah that what i am thinkin i mean if i have to i will spend all night in the bathroom with him!
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Oct 28 2009
06:13:33 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
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Originally posted by huntman21014

www.sugarglider.com/glidergossip/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=20771

Please read that and tell me they will be just fine, imagine you were plucked off earth and put on some strange and scary planet with strange things touching you, would you want to be alone or have someone else of your own species to have as a companion?

If you don't have the money for two you shouldn't have one.

i don't have to read anything because i seen it with my own eyes!
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Oct 28 2009
06:45:22 PM
Tera Joey Visit Tera's Photo Album 18 Posts
i agree with what everyone is saying here about bonding and spending LOTS of time with them when they are in the pouch. I work 7 days a week but every morning before work while im doing my hair, make-up, drinking tea etc I have the pouch with me. have it next to your body to keep your glider warm and so it gets used to your scent in a comfortable way.

also, it sounds weird but talk to them. they will crab at first at the sound of your voice when they are asleep in the pouch, but eventually they will get used to your voice and it will be a safe and familiar sound to them. i talk to my boys every day and they have gotten so used to my voice that when i leave and return home, even if they are asleep, they come out of their pouch look up to say hello and go back in the pouch to sleep.

also, something to note. bathrooms are a cold stale environment and although it is safe, your glider may be a little cold with its feet and tummy on tile and a cold floor or tub. just something to consider.

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Oct 28 2009
06:50:10 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
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Originally posted by Tera

i agree with what everyone is saying here about bonding and spending LOTS of time with them when they are in the pouch. I work 7 days a week but every morning before work while im doing my hair, make-up, drinking tea etc I have the pouch with me. have it next to your body to keep your glider warm and so it gets used to your scent in a comfortable way.

also, it sounds weird but talk to them. they will crab at first at the sound of your voice when they are asleep in the pouch, but eventually they will get used to your voice and it will be a safe and familiar sound to them. i talk to my boys every day and they have gotten so used to my voice that when i leave and return home, even if they are asleep, they come out of their pouch look up to say hello and go back in the pouch to sleep.

also, something to note. bathrooms are a cold stale environment and although it is safe, your glider may be a little cold with its feet and tummy on tile and a cold floor or tub. just something to consider.



yea i lay a blanket down on the tile floor and put towles on the bathtub floor jus incase he wants to go in there
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Oct 28 2009
06:51:42 PM
Tera Joey Visit Tera's Photo Album 18 Posts
also, there are ways to get another glider for cheap. look into rescues, or just save for a few weeks so your glider will be happier. i have a pair of boys and when i am too busy to play with them, they entertain eachother all night.
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Oct 28 2009
08:39:26 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Ambie, I am sorry but you are wrong. They are colony animals. That's a known fact. Not having enough money to get another does not get rid of the fact that they are colony animals. They thrive in at least pairs. You will be hard pressed to find anyone to agree with you. Maybe your friend is lucky or an exception. I find it really sad you won't even read links provided to you to help educate you. You cannot say yours is better off alone because you have nothing to compare it to. So technically, yes, your "fact" is correct...you don't HAVE to have more than one but not even being open to getting another is quite honestly irresponsible-especially having the knowledge that they are colony animals and that they should not live alone. I would provide you some more links as proof, but you are obviously dead set against learning vital information.
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Oct 28 2009
08:40:37 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Just also wanted to add, you shouldn't start a thread asking "what should I do?" if the answers are going to upset you-especially the honest ones.
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Oct 29 2009
12:05:39 AM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
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Originally posted by kyro298

Just also wanted to add, you shouldn't start a thread asking "what should I do?" if the answers are going to upset you-especially the honest ones.

i was asking what should i do to get him to play in the bathroom"my post had nothing to do with gettin another glider"
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Oct 29 2009
12:08:42 AM
fadedrainbows Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit fadedrainbows's Photo Album fadedrainbows's Journal USA 819 Posts
The point is that he may be lonely. Which may be why he isn't playing. He could be getting depressed. Which also means he may start to self mutilate and basically kill himself. All because you think you know so much more than experienced glider owners.
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Oct 29 2009
12:15:30 AM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
i never said i wasn't gonna get another one i said i don't have the money right now!!!!!hes not depressed he starting clibing and jumping and playin in the bathroom after i took him in there for the secound time. he was just scarred of the new place he never seen before
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Oct 29 2009
12:18:19 AM
Goldwinger Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit Goldwinger's Photo Album Goldwinger's Journal VA, USA 1369 Posts
I got my first one and all he would do is crab and wouldn't play on me or with me. He would run away and be so scared. Then I got another one and THEY were so happy together that now they both trust me and run all over me and play together on me. When I don't have time to play with them they have each other and are happy ALL THE TIME even when I have to get some sleep.
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Oct 29 2009
12:22:38 AM
fadedrainbows Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit fadedrainbows's Photo Album fadedrainbows's Journal USA 819 Posts
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quote:Originally posted by huntman21014

Why do people on this forum think its ok to have 1? Didn't kazko just do a huge post about how they need a companion no matter how much time you can spend with them.


BECAUSE EVERYONE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR 2...YEAH THEY DO BETTER IN PAIRS BUT MY FRIEND HAS 1!!!!! AND SHE HAD IT FOR 2 YEARS ALREADY AND IT'S DOING FINE! SO FACT: YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO!


This right here is telling us that you don't think they have to live in pairs.. ie: that you won't get one. Also, if you don't have the money for two why did you not wait until you could afford two? This just shows us that this was an impulse decision for you, that you didn't truly do much research beforehand, and it will probably end up being in a rescue home. This is also proven by your question statement
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i took my suggie in the bathroom for his frist time to play and he was just so freakin scared i gave him treats and everything and all he did was stand there and shake...what should i do? i really wanna play with him!
. Gliders are not pets that you "play with". They decide if you are worthy enough to climb and jump on. And they decide if they trust you enough to bond. If you had done your research you should know that it takes more than a "couple weeks" to bond. Everyone is just trying to give you advice from their much more extensive experience. Also. You typed in all caps, which is equal to yelling. If you're that defensive on the internet than you're just showing us you're not willing to listen or take the advice we are trying to give you. You sound ungrateful for the response and uneducated about the innocent animal.

Edited by - fadedrainbows on Oct 29 2009 12:23:35 AM
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Oct 29 2009
12:35:49 AM
skittlesandpeanut Super Glider GliderMap skittlesandpeanut's Journal USA 227 Posts
okay....at the risk of getting yelled at, i'm going to step in and defend ambie420....her and I have talked before, and Ithink some of you might be misunderstanding what she is saying...I dont mean to put words in your mouth ambie 420, i just want to help clarify somethings....first of all yes it is vital to have two. However if the funds arent available, they arent available. NOTHING can be done about that, except to give the glider away...or sell it to someone else. Now I got the impression that she had every intention of getting another glider when she got the cash to do so, and was trying to get some more cash to do that, but until then she just has one. Does that make it right? NO. But at least her glider is safe and in a loving homme even if he is alone. Lots of places I've seen and heard of have many gliders, but they arent happy, or healthy...And yes her boy would def. be happyier with a companion. But until then, at least the one she has is getting love, affection, and being taken care of properly. At the same time althought i think the way it was stated was way , and unnessesarily judgemental, ambie you should read those threads about having more than one, at the very least just b/c it is written from people with experiance and mabye it can help you understand or learn something new. I kno I've read lots of things on here I dont always agree with, but then been glad i read it..Any reading on gliders I see, I read. Every litle bit of info can help, espeically if its a situation that could potentaly involve your glider and their situation.
I just felt for ambie when i read all these posts,and i think some of you may have misunderstood her intentions. But at the same time I also think that she may have misunderstood some of ur intentions. I for one kno that when things arent presented to me in a nice, calm, and mature manner, i will be hesistent to read it, or use the info, no matter how valuable it may be. ANd furthermore ambie needs this forum right now to help her learn and I think it would be a shame if we scared her away b/c of our harsh tones, and ways of writting. At least i kno i'd be pushed away from ever asking questions again....hmmm...didnt we just have this issue last week with someone else?????
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Oct 29 2009
12:36:51 AM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
i didn't mean to type in all caps it's jus the cap locks was on wen i wrote that....they are kinda bonded with me like if my family try to hold him soon as they get him he jumps back on me. i did do my recarch i am jus tired of everyone tellin me that i need another one wen i feel that i can take car of both of them then i will get another one..i mean everyone keeps sayin the same thing and it get kinda of tireing i mean i know they don't have to have one..and i know they do better in pairs.
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Oct 29 2009
12:40:08 AM
huntman21014 Joey 30 Posts
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Originally posted by fadedrainbows

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quote:Originally posted by huntman21014

Why do people on this forum think its ok to have 1? Didn't kazko just do a huge post about how they need a companion no matter how much time you can spend with them.


BECAUSE EVERYONE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR 2...YEAH THEY DO BETTER IN PAIRS BUT MY FRIEND HAS 1!!!!! AND SHE HAD IT FOR 2 YEARS ALREADY AND IT'S DOING FINE! SO FACT: YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO!


This right here is telling us that you don't think they have to live in pairs.. ie: that you won't get one. Also, if you don't have the money for two why did you not wait until you could afford two? This just shows us that this was an impulse decision for you, that you didn't truly do much research beforehand, and it will probably end up being in a rescue home. This is also proven by your question statement
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i took my suggie in the bathroom for his frist time to play and he was just so freakin scared i gave him treats and everything and all he did was stand there and shake...what should i do? i really wanna play with him!
. Gliders are not pets that you "play with". They decide if you are worthy enough to climb and jump on. And they decide if they trust you enough to bond. If you had done your research you should know that it takes more than a "couple weeks" to bond. Everyone is just trying to give you advice from their much more extensive experience. Also. You typed in all caps, which is equal to yelling. If you're that defensive on the internet than you're just showing us you're not willing to listen or take the advice we are trying to give you. You sound ungrateful for the response and uneducated about the innocent animal.



100% Correct!
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Oct 29 2009
01:43:13 AM
skittlesandpeanut Super Glider GliderMap skittlesandpeanut's Journal USA 227 Posts
huntman whats ur problem? you seem intent on attacking not helping...almost everything you've said has been harsh, rude, or insensitive. I got my gliders without doing a ton of research and i only knew what gliders where for a month before i got them. But you kno what? I had the chance to rescue gliders from someone who couldnt take care of them anymore, and I had the chance to get them at a price i could afford. Otherwise i still wouldnt have my boys. However just because it was a "imppulse desicion" doews not in anyt way shape or form mean that i'm any less qualified to care for them. I am still doing my research on them, and still learning, that part will never stop. I think its rude of u to assume that just because someone gets them as an "impulse" buy then that means theyt cant take care of them properly. Most the animals i've ever had have been gotten without months and months of descion making and i've never had to give them up to a rescue or put them down, etc. You need to stop making harsg accusations.
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Oct 29 2009
01:51:12 AM
fadedrainbows Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit fadedrainbows's Photo Album fadedrainbows's Journal USA 819 Posts
Uh. Just for the record I was the one who stated all the stuff about them being an impulse buy. And for the record I was also the one who made the post a while back of rude responses. The difference here is that the OP decided to be defensive and give us the impression she didn't care about the advice she was being given. Advice that truly could save a glider's life. And I said it would "probably" end up in a rescue home. Not that that it WILL. That just happens to be the statistic. So just wanted to say it was me and not huntman. For that part anyway.

*edited for spelling error

Edited by - fadedrainbows on Oct 29 2009 02:17:47 AM
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Oct 29 2009
01:55:47 AM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
ok well maybe if huntman wouldn't have been so damn rude i would have took his advice and looked at the link he gave me!
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Oct 29 2009
02:37:32 AM
huntman21014 Joey 30 Posts
Well I made a statement that is true, and you flat out yelled at me. I tried to back up my statement with a link to a very informative post and you say you aren't even going to look at the link.

If you refuse to look at a link that could save the sugar gliders life that says to me you either don't care enough about them or their happiness or you are too irresponsible to have a sugar glider.

The OP has the information, she didn't like getting called out because they only have 1 sugar glider and don't think they need to get another one. Once other people started saying the same thing they change their tune. People are going to do whatever they want, its a shame that it will be at the expense of some poor helpless sugar glider.

Edited by - huntman21014 on Oct 29 2009 02:43:29 AM
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Oct 29 2009
02:42:10 AM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
i kno i said i wasn't gonna look at it but yea i did look at it.
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