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Oct 29 2009
07:15:08 AM
shelbyxgore Joey Visit shelbyxgore's Photo Album shelbyxgore's Journal 45 Posts
I only have one glider. She was born as one and was my friend's who had her for two years. a lone. I know they're colony animals, but some people don't have the money at the moment to get another glider. I'm getting another one for Christmas.
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Oct 29 2009
03:17:19 PM
skittlesandpeanut Super Glider GliderMap skittlesandpeanut's Journal USA 227 Posts
ok..i didnt mean to be rude and i misunderstood the post..soo thanks for saying it was you who said it fadedrainbow...anyway...i think what upset me was that ambie never meant to say she didnt care and she didnt want to get another glider...i think it was just they way everyone was saying stuff that made her say what she said...i dont kno...i just dont like people being attacked...but...i also have to step back and realize the attack isnt against the person, its to save a glider...so sorry for being rude...but after reading it all i was really angry at all the additude going on....
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Oct 29 2009
03:27:04 PM
tisha Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit tisha's Photo Album tisha's Journal OK, USA 2081 Posts
This response is for everyone who "doesn't have the money for two". Can I ask a serious question? Do you have money saved up for vet visits?



I hope so....because you'll probably need it when/if your lone glider gets depressed and starts self mutilating. I hope you have money to take it to the vet at that point.

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Oct 29 2009
03:34:02 PM
suggieluver02 Face Hugger GliderMap Visit suggieluver02's Photo Album suggieluver02's Journal 442 Posts
ok back off of her!! i know ur trying to help and all to save gliders, but... ITS IS HER PET!! her responsibility! her bills so get out of her face!! yes she knows about vet bills. some of us are low on money.like me! but i still have a sugar glider. i have 1 just like her because i have more time to play with her and less money to buy another!! but she has a big cage and ppl who love her. if she needed a visit? yes i would get the money. if i absolutly had to get a second 1? i would find a way to do it.thats wat us suggie moms do. we survive. we do watever it takes. i think: shes doing a wonderful job. i have had mine for 3-5 months since she was 8 wks and have had no problems out of her being a lone glider. yes if i get the chance i will get her another but really? BACK OFF THE GIRL. SHE WILL FIND A WAY LIKE WE ALL DO. go girl ur doin fine
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Oct 29 2009
03:49:10 PM
tisha Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit tisha's Photo Album tisha's Journal OK, USA 2081 Posts
Good. Just making sure these aren't going to be the same people coming back here in 5 months saying "help, my sugar glider is bleeding from their head what do I do, I don't have money for a vet".


You know. Just checking.
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Oct 29 2009
04:11:03 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
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Originally posted by suggieluver02

ok back off of her!! i know ur trying to help and all to save gliders, but... ITS IS HER PET!! her responsibility! her bills so get out of her face!! yes she knows about vet bills. some of us are low on money.like me! but i still have a sugar glider. i have 1 just like her because i have more time to play with her and less money to buy another!! but she has a big cage and ppl who love her. if she needed a visit? yes i would get the money. if i absolutly had to get a second 1? i would find a way to do it.thats wat us suggie moms do. we survive. we do watever it takes. i think: shes doing a wonderful job. i have had mine for 3-5 months since she was 8 wks and have had no problems out of her being a lone glider. yes if i get the chance i will get her another but really? BACK OFF THE GIRL. SHE WILL FIND A WAY LIKE WE ALL DO. go girl ur doin fine



THIS is an example of how to start problems, ladies and gentlemen. You trying to scold everyone else for scolding her seems kind of like a vicious circle, does it not? Yep, her responsibility...but mine to educate. Yep, it's her pet but she asked for advice. I won't even respond about you having a single glider. Go see the "Happy and Healthy" thread since you're so sure a lone glider is OK. If you want to be honest about what "us suggie moms do", we do everything we can to get uneducated owners to get educated and do what's best for our gliders. I WILL "DO WHATEVER IT TAKES" to get the message across.
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Oct 29 2009
04:16:17 PM
tisha Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit tisha's Photo Album tisha's Journal OK, USA 2081 Posts
Ok now I'm really confused about suggieluver02. I just read this from your journal:

Sugar booger 4 sale.
i have to sell my sugar booger. i dont have the time, or patience anymore. im not a glider person im more of a dog, cat, or fish person ya know. im asking for 150 for everything.she may need a new toy or two. if you are interested let me know and ill give u my email.



So......I'm sure you can see why I'm confused?
Sorry to go off topic.
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Oct 29 2009
04:22:37 PM
fadedrainbows Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit fadedrainbows's Photo Album fadedrainbows's Journal USA 819 Posts
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if i absolutly had to get a second 1? i would find a way to do it.


Uh. Then why aren't you? Because we have tried to prove to you over and over that it truly is a must to have more than one. But some of the people on here are so hardheaded that yes, you will get scolded. Over and over again. You're trying to say you care for your suggies. But in some instances you're not. If you were alone on an island with only a dog.. doesn't matter that the dog NEVER EVER leaves your side, you are going to yearn for another human presence. There is no getting around that. But apparently there's no getting it through some of these thick heads either.
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Oct 29 2009
04:35:51 PM
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Suggieluver02 DID sell her sugar glider after placing that ad on this site. Then she got selfish and asked to buy him back! Such a shame.... the home he went to was a home with other gliders too.

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Oct 29 2009
04:37:47 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Oh boy
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Oct 29 2009
04:43:10 PM
our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit our2girlz's Photo Album United States 2362 Posts
And you lost Tom and Linda due to selfishness?!
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Oct 29 2009
06:00:38 PM
jbsgirl1423 Super Glider Visit jbsgirl1423's Photo Album jbsgirl1423's Journal 222 Posts
kk got my white flag so i don't get attacked I have neutered male glider I've had him for six months and he is alone without a cage mate im not taking sides here but heres my story.. my boy is alone and yes im almost certain that he is "Healthy and Happy" he is never less than excited to come pounce and play and run and lick he also just recently started grooming me (yay) but thats a different story I feed him a well balanced diet of bml and fruits && veggies that keep the ratio good and his stool always looks good and he's never lethargic unless i just wake him up but who isn't if they get woken up in the middle of their night so yes on this rare occassion I feel he is fine without a friend however I do suggest getting your glider a friend as I will be very soon even though as I just stated he seems to be a very happy little man I will do anything to make him just a little happier also on the whole money issue I am 14 and do not have much money at all... therefore I babysit and do tons of odd jobs around the house and I also ask for money for my birthday at the moment I have 270 dollars.. 80% of that will be spent on my boy. Okay I hope this message is recieved well best wishes to everyone - Cassy

Edited by - jbsgirl1423 on Oct 29 2009 06:01:40 PM
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Oct 29 2009
06:29:08 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Cassy, did you read the "Healthy and Happy" thread? Everyone that has a lone glider thinks they are happy...until they have something to compare it to.
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Oct 29 2009
06:54:09 PM
jbsgirl1423 Super Glider Visit jbsgirl1423's Photo Album jbsgirl1423's Journal 222 Posts
i did and yes i do know he could be happier but couldn't we all and i do spend lots and lots of time with him though i know that still doesnt compare to another gliders company but he does not hurt himself or he is not lathargic undereating under active or grumpy i however am getting him a friend because as you said and as faded rainbows said another gliders pressence is irraplacable so please do not take my comment as ignorant im just stating that my boy really doesnt seem to upset without a friend even though he will be getting one
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Oct 29 2009
07:02:31 PM
jbsgirl1423 Super Glider Visit jbsgirl1423's Photo Album jbsgirl1423's Journal 222 Posts
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Originally posted by fadedrainbows

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quote:Originally posted by huntman21014

Why do people on this forum think its ok to have 1? Didn't kazko just do a huge post about how they need a companion no matter how much time you can spend with them.


BECAUSE EVERYONE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR 2...YEAH THEY DO BETTER IN PAIRS BUT MY FRIEND HAS 1!!!!! AND SHE HAD IT FOR 2 YEARS ALREADY AND IT'S DOING FINE! SO FACT: YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE TWO!


This right here is telling us that you don't think they have to live in pairs.. ie: that you won't get one. Also, if you don't have the money for two why did you not wait until you could afford two? This just shows us that this was an impulse decision for you, that you didn't truly do much research beforehand, and it will probably end up being in a rescue home. This is also proven by your question statement
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i took my suggie in the bathroom for his frist time to play and he was just so freakin scared i gave him treats and everything and all he did was stand there and shake...what should i do? i really wanna play with him!


. Gliders are not pets that you "play with". They decide if you are worthy enough to climb and jump on. And they decide if they trust you enough to bond. If you had done your research you should know that it takes more than a "couple weeks" to bond. Everyone is just trying to give you advice from their much more extensive experience. Also. You typed in all caps, which is equal to yelling. if you're that defensive on the internet than you're just showing us you're not willing to listen or take the advice we are trying to give you. You sound ungrateful for the response and uneducated about the innocent animal.





I must agree with the whole bonding take much more than a couple weeks I have had my glider for 6 months.. he crabbed every time i came near for a whole week then hed let me touch him then hold him and now finally just this week after six months he has started grooming me meaning im accepted by him to be in his colony im so proud k sorry back on topic :P
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Oct 29 2009
07:10:50 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
I don't think you're ignorant and I'm happy you plan on getting him a friend. He will love that. I don't necessarily agree with "i do know he could be happier but couldn't we all". Yes, we could all be happier, but WE have that choice-they don't. They rely on us for that.
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Oct 29 2009
07:18:09 PM
ambie420 Glider Visit ambie420's Photo Album 57 Posts
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Originally posted by suggieluver02

ok back off of her!! i know ur trying to help and all to save gliders, but... ITS IS HER PET!! her responsibility! her bills so get out of her face!! yes she knows about vet bills. some of us are low on money.like me! but i still have a sugar glider. i have 1 just like her because i have more time to play with her and less money to buy another!! but she has a big cage and ppl who love her. if she needed a visit? yes i would get the money. if i absolutly had to get a second 1? i would find a way to do it.thats wat us suggie moms do. we survive. we do watever it takes. i think: shes doing a wonderful job. i have had mine for 3-5 months since she was 8 wks and have had no problems out of her being a lone glider. yes if i get the chance i will get her another but really? BACK OFF THE GIRL. SHE WILL FIND A WAY LIKE WE ALL DO. go girl ur doin fine

thanks u understand me!
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Oct 29 2009
07:23:57 PM
jbsgirl1423 Super Glider Visit jbsgirl1423's Photo Album jbsgirl1423's Journal 222 Posts
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Originally posted by kyro298

I don't think you're ignorant and I'm happy you plan on getting him a friend. He will love that. I don't necessarily agree with "i do know he could be happier but couldn't we all". Yes, we could all be happier, but WE have that choice-they don't. They rely on us for that.

wow now that you say that i get what you mean i dont know why i hadnt considered that while typing my post thanks for the explanation
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Oct 29 2009
09:43:58 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
I have been at work all day and had some things to do this evening. I come back to find all hell has broke loose and I am appalled by it. Ive been here everyday since June 27, 2006 and can honestly say I have NEVER witnessed a group of new people so dead set on starting trouble as I am seeing over the past few weeks.

Im going to say something that will not make me very popular but Im not here to win a popularity contest. I will place a bet right now that 90% of you will not be here in 6 months. And it wont be because someone was rude and ran you off - it will be because you have totally lost interest in your gliders. They will either be sold, placed in rescue or dead. Those of us who have been here a long time have seen this all before. and it makes us really sad.

We are here to educate new glider owners. We are not pulling information out of our butts. We have spent many, many hours reading, talking about and learning all we can about gliders. And we are not going to tell you something is OK if it isnt. What good would that do anyone? And it certainly wouldnt be good for the gliders. And after all, the gliders are why we are here.

Some of you need to overcome this "they were rude to me so I will punish my gliders by doing whatever I want with them" bull. Why are you here? Again, if you dont want an honest answer, then dont ask because honest is what you are going to get.

Sugar Gliders are not anything like hamsters or gerbils (not that there is anything wrong with hamsters or gerbils). They are EXOTIC animals and have special needs. When you choose to take a sugar glider home, then it became your responsibility to take care of it. We are trying our best to help you do that.

When you think someone is being rude, stop and realize this is the internet. Everything is in flat black and white. You see no facial expressions or hear any inflection in the voice. If you spoke to us in person, I guarantee we could say the same thing to you face to face and you would not take it as being rude. And unless someone is name calling or attacking you personally, the advice we are giving IS NOT PERSONAL.

Edited by - Rita on Oct 29 2009 10:21:38 PM
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Oct 29 2009
09:47:06 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
That'll teach you to go to work.....

You haven't even hit the exciting thread yet!

Edited by - kyro298 on Oct 29 2009 09:47:43 PM
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Oct 29 2009
09:53:34 PM
our2girlz Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit our2girlz's Photo Album United States 2362 Posts
When I first came here asking questions it is because I wanted to know the right thing to do. I was not going to argue with people who know better than I did. After taking a trip to the vet, my vet told me the same things. I trust everybody here I won't argue with them. I know stay around and try to help pass the same info on. sometimes I am wrong. Somebody will politely come along and tell me why I was wrong than I continue to pass on the correct information. No need to take it personally. Like Rita said with body language and tones you would be able to see it is all about the gliders.
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Oct 29 2009
10:05:26 PM
jbsgirl1423 Super Glider Visit jbsgirl1423's Photo Album jbsgirl1423's Journal 222 Posts
i agree with you rita I Have been on this sight for about a year now the six months i've had my suggie and the six months before I owned him also a good example of a proper conversation in witch one party corrects or helps the other is kyro and i's convorsation above in were I make a statement she kindly helps/corrects me and I consider her ideas and then kindly agree or disagree (I agreed) :D thanks to all of you wonderful people who do help and to those good owners who absorb the information and carry it out
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Oct 29 2009
11:15:02 PM
Gizmo-n-Roos Mommy Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit Gizmo-n-Roos Mommy's Photo Album OH, USA 1624 Posts
This makes me so sad and I wish that I had taken pics of my Gizmo after he started to Self Mutilate and stay awake during the day staring into space. I kid you not --You could actually SEE the SADNESS and LONLINESS in his eyes. He looked so pathetic I really thought he might die.

I got Roo (didn't know about quarrantines & intros) and the very next day he was back to his old self.

This depression did not happen right after I got him -- I had him for six months before there were any signs at all and I thought he was "happy & healthy". After all, I work at home and spent most of every day with him.

It did happen almost overnight though when I could see the signs that he was depressed and sick. PLEASE DO NOT WAIT UNTIL YOUR GLIDER GETS DEPRESSED. It may not work out as well for your baby as it did for Gizmo.
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Oct 29 2009
11:38:06 PM
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i have a mom and dad suggies and they have 6 babies i have 2 boys and 6 females i kept the boy and the girls seprated but sometimes my daddy suggie will look so sad and will act kinda werid and as soon as i put him with his mate he is so happy again so that goes to show u they do need buddies not just humans. I know money may be an issue for u but suggies arent cheap to take care of and if u cant take care of 1 by getting him a buddy u may not need that 1 at all cause ur hurting him more than ur helping. ( in a nice voice) he/she may seem happy now but in the long run it will take its toll.
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Oct 29 2009
11:42:46 PM
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i have a mom and dad suggies and they have 6 babies i have 2 boys and 6 females i kept the boy and the girls seprated but sometimes my daddy suggie will look so sad and will act kinda werid and as soon as i put him with his mate he is so happy again so that goes to show u they do need buddies not just humans. I know money may be an issue for u but suggies arent cheap to take care of and if u cant take care of 1 by getting him a buddy u may not need that 1 at all cause ur hurting him more than ur helping. ( in a nice voice) he/she may seem happy now but in the long run it will take its toll.
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Nov 03 2009
04:19:11 PM
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Why are you all be rude to Ambie420? She asked a question about bonding with her ONE glider. If she has only had him for a few weeks she has plenty of time to get another. I had my glider by himself for a year before I got another and he is fine. He loves having a new friend now but was fine by himself. Can't someone just answer her question?
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Nov 15 2009
12:56:24 AM
Yoshi Glider GliderMap LA, USA 87 Posts
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Originally posted by Gizmo-n-Roos Mommy

This makes me so sad and I wish that I had taken pics of my Gizmo after he started to Self Mutilate and stay awake during the day staring into space. I kid you not --You could actually SEE the SADNESS and LONLINESS in his eyes. He looked so pathetic I really thought he might die.

I got Roo (didn't know about quarrantines & intros) and the very next day he was back to his old self.

This depression did not happen right after I got him -- I had him for six months before there were any signs at all and I thought he was "happy & healthy". After all, I work at home and spent most of every day with him.

It did happen almost overnight though when I could see the signs that he was depressed and sick. PLEASE DO NOT WAIT UNTIL YOUR GLIDER GETS DEPRESSED. It may not work out as well for your baby as it did for Gizmo.



I've experienced this too, with my Shady. I had her for about 2 months and she was fine then one day she wouldn't play with me in the tent she just sat there. Then the next day I went to get her pouch out of the cage and I realized that she wasn't sleeping she was just sitting in there awake doing nothing I guess she couldnt' sleep. I held her pouch and she just stared at me for hours and I definitely know what you mean about being able to see the sadness in her eyes. I thought she was going to die. She stopped grooming herself, she would just have food stuck in her hair and her fur all matted up. She wouldn't eat. I could tell she looked thin and i noticed she wasn't eating her food, the only way I could get her to eat was to put the bml on my finger and she would lick it off, if I just left it in the cage she wouldn't touch it.
Then I got Behbet and she was totally fine.
But I still kind of hate myself for putting her through that in the first place.
Glider depression is not pretty and it's not a joke I would never wish that on anyone or their glider. Please don't think, "oh my glider's fine, he doesn't need a friend' even if your glider is fine now, you still need to get a friend ASAP because you never know when that day might come that your glider just basically loses the will to live.
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Nov 15 2009
01:48:18 AM
Moriko Face Hugger GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Moriko's Photo Album Moriko's Journal AL, USA 943 Posts
Depression does not have a time clock set on it, people. Like those crazy commercials say on T.V. "Depression can strike at any time!" This is correct with gliders, also. A lone glider owner might have 6 months before the glider starts getting depression, or 1 month. I wouldn't tell people, "oh, don't worry, you have plenty of time!"
Another thing is that all gliders are different(Please don't start with "since gliders are all different, mine can be alone!" It's proven that gliders are colony animals, get that into your head, please. :D), just because your glider didn't start to get depressed and self-mutilate right off the bat doesn't mean someone's glider with a total different personality is not going to start right from the beginning.
Come on, people, learn some responsibility... at least for your animals.

*edited for spelling and diction errors, I can't spell when I rant!

Edited by - Moriko on Nov 15 2009 01:51:04 AM
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