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avatarHealth related New Post sugarbaby1109 Joey GliderMap USA 83 Posts
Nov 20 2009 :  11:07:45 AM
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I have had a issue my my new glider for a week now. She first started sneezing non stop, then two days later her face was swollen, took her to vet they said it looked as if she either injured her nose or has a cold, put her on meds. Now she stopped eating,I am feeding witha syringe, the sweeling is down but now it is as if her two top teeth are protuding out from under her nose, losing weight,very dehidrated,loose stools, no urine,sleeps all the time. My vet does not know what is going on but thinks that the initial infection has moved to her lungs as she is having a very hard time to breath. Anyone have any help or advice. I am keeping her alive by forcefeeding liquids but it isnt going to work forever.



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Nov 20 2009 :  11:10:00 AM
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I am so very sorry to hear that. You are both in my prayers!
avatarHealth related New Post sugarbaby1109 Joey GliderMap USA 83 Posts
Nov 20 2009 :  11:12:22 AM
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Thank you, we need all the prayers we can get:(
avatarHealth related New Post tisha Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit tisha's Photo Album tisha's Journal OK, USA 2081 Posts
Nov 20 2009 :  11:14:53 AM
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Doesn't sound like your vet is being very helpful. Can you go get a second opinion from another vet?
avatarHealth related New Post sugarbaby1109 Joey GliderMap USA 83 Posts
Nov 20 2009 :  11:18:01 AM
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I have looked as far as 100 miles of my house for a vet with knowledge of sugargliders and no luck. Not sure what else to do.
avatarHealth related New Post tisha Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit tisha's Photo Album tisha's Journal OK, USA 2081 Posts
Nov 20 2009 :  11:27:11 AM
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Where are you from? Maybe we can help look.

Unfortunately a lot of our long time members aren't on as often during the day so this post will probably get more advice later in the day when people get off work.

If you can atleast tell me what state and nearest town you are in I can help check our resources or something to find another vet??
avatarHealth related New Post sugarbaby1109 Joey GliderMap USA 83 Posts
Nov 20 2009 :  11:31:35 AM
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I live in Oneonta NY :) thanks for all your help :)
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Nov 20 2009 :  11:34:04 AM
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OMG-yes, I'd also say a new vet! I'll see if I can help find one as well!
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Nov 20 2009 :  11:37:21 AM
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He didn't think it was a tooth problem that got out of control? Sorry, just thinking out loud. I hope we can find someone ASAP. Are you near any major cities? If you could list some cities you are willing to drive to, that could really help narrow down some vets. Albany? Syracuse? Binghamton? (I actually grew up near Binghamton but don't know how far you are from there)

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Nov 20 2009 :  11:41:26 AM
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Westend Veterinary Office
41 Fullerton Avenue
Newburgh, NY 12550 (845) 565-0804
Fax: (845) 565-0885


How far are you from there? Sorry I will keep trying to look for more.
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Nov 20 2009 :  11:43:54 AM
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http://www.yellowpages.com/relevance/Oneonta-NY/Exotic-ve...

Have you called all these too see if any of them treat sugar gliders or can direct you to someone who can?
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Nov 20 2009 :  11:44:47 AM
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These are supposed to be exotic vets. If there's one near you, you should call first and ask about sugar gliders. If they don't, ask them who does.

http://www.herpvetconnection.com/newyork.shtml
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Nov 20 2009 :  11:55:00 AM
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Here is a link with NY vets I do not know NY so hopefully there is one near where you are at.
http://www.glidercentral.net/links/pages/Sugar_Glider_Vet_Database/North_America/United_States/New_York/index.html

Sorry don't know how to send links very well Hope this helps
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Nov 20 2009 :  12:21:26 PM
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West End Vet in on Fullerton Newburgh NY is the best option for you. I know it is kinda far away but Dr. Factor is really the most experineced that I know of in NY.
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Nov 20 2009 :  01:06:47 PM
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There are even vets who would consult with yours over the phone. Someone has that list on this forum ad it gets posted every once in a while. Can anyone post it???

If you can't get to a different vet then this would probably be the best bet. You send them the pics then have the two vets consult over the phone and see if together they can figure something out. I hate to be blunt , but if something doesn't give soon you're going to lose your baby.

Her jaw looks seriously infected. Could it be a tooth abcess?

I would take some fruits and veggies and blend them until they are a thin smoothie consistency so that way you can feed her her normal diet with a syringe. It would help get more nutrients down her. I can't blame her for not wanting to eat. That looks incredibly painful.
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Nov 20 2009 :  01:34:21 PM
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Hope this helps...I copied it from a thread that was post not too long ago.

VET CONSULT NUMBERS

The following Vets are willing to consult with other vets who have questions regarding sugar glider care and emergencies.

Please put these numbers in your Emergency Kit.

We are NOT to call these vets ourselves - they will only consult with another Vet!!!


Dr.Tim Tristan
OSO Creek Animal Hospital
361-994-1145

Dr. Bradley Walsh
Village Vet Animal Clinic/All Creatures Veterinary Hospital
918-258-0040

Dr. Andrew Grzanowski
Canton Center Animal Hospital
734-459-1400

Dr. Kate Zimmerman
TriCounty Animal Hospital
(has 24hr emergency contact info on her office answering machine)
423-391-0303


Dr. Teresa Bradley
Belton Animal Clinic
816-331-3120

Dr. Kristen West
Mandel Veterinary Hospital
216-321-6040
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Nov 20 2009 :  01:48:08 PM
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I am so sorry about your baby! I agree that a new vet is in order (but you already know that!). I hope you are able to get some help soon. Thoughts and prayers for her and you.
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Nov 20 2009 :  02:56:06 PM
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Oh my. Please keep us updated on her condition. Prayers are being said for your little one. <<hugs>>
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Nov 20 2009 :  03:33:53 PM
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Being a new acquisition, I'd take her back and let the breeder deal with the problem.

If she is alone in cage, this has got to be a dental issue. Teeth can often cause this kind of thing in animals. Perhaps she got her tooth caught on something and it became lodged up where it shouldnt be. Perhaps she is very low with calcium and her body stole it from her teeth and she cracked one. Unfortunately the only fix for this may be to pull the top one or two teeth if a vet is able to even figure out how to proceed with it. This will leave the animal very needy.

I am very curious to learn how this ends. I suspect that the animal wont make it but you never know what an atypical vet may come up with for it. If both teeth have to be removed to proceed, well, I might consider euthanasia instead.

Feel free to chime in if you think this is a bad suggestion, I dont mind.

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Nov 20 2009 :  03:48:22 PM
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Thank you all for your help.I am looking into some of the vets that you all listed. I will keep you all up to date.

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Nov 20 2009 :  03:49:58 PM
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Have your vet call Dr. Walsh - he is my vet and deals with special needs gliders and dental issues quite regularly.
Dr. Walsh 918-258-0040
He is amazing, and, like I said, has TONS of experience with special needs and unique circumstances in gliders.

You need to have the glider anesthetized, the wound cleaned up (looks like there might be some necrosis there) and then the teeth x-rayed and any teeth that are involved pulled. It will not affect the glider's life too terribly much to loose some teeth, but you have a massive problem there and you HAVE TO get it taken care of. I have several gliders with periodontal issues who have lost multiple teeth.

Where did you get this glider?

Ask your vet about using Convenia (injectible antibiotic) as well as a topical antibiotic. You also need to get the glider in an e-collar and in a hospital cage. And, the glider will need pain management for the course of treatment.

Sub-q fluids and use oral feedings for more appropriate nutritional support (ensure if not dehydrated). You might also look into using a watered down carnivore care while the glider is healing. Ask your vet about it.

This is my abbreviated advice. I really suggest that you call me so we can discuss this further.
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Nov 20 2009 :  03:57:22 PM
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Thank you, Val! You are such a treasure! I am bookmarking this for future reference!
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Nov 20 2009 :  04:19:49 PM
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Aww poor thing.... I hope you find a decent vet soon... she's in rough shape...
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Nov 20 2009 :  04:49:34 PM
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Poor baby. I'll pray for her too.
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Nov 20 2009 :  05:47:43 PM
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Sugarbaby, were you able to get a hold of anyone?
avatarHealth related New Post sugarbaby1109 Joey GliderMap USA 83 Posts
Nov 21 2009 :  07:06:58 AM
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I did a couple of the vets and told them the situation and had my vet call them, maybe this way they could give him advice and I could then still go to my vet as to is is convient and he is willing to let me make payments since I am not rich :) I am waiting on a call back this morning, I will keep you all up to date., Thanks so much to all of you.
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Nov 21 2009 :  11:40:05 AM
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As far as payments, www.carecredit.com is an option lots of us have used in emergencies. It's perfect for vet visits if you're low on funds.
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Nov 21 2009 :  02:44:41 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Kazko

Being a new acquisition, I'd take her back and let the breeder deal with the problem.

If she is alone in cage, this has got to be a dental issue. Teeth can often cause this kind of thing in animals. Perhaps she got her tooth caught on something and it became lodged up where it shouldnt be. Perhaps she is very low with calcium and her body stole it from her teeth and she cracked one. Unfortunately the only fix for this may be to pull the top one or two teeth if a vet is able to even figure out how to proceed with it. This will leave the animal very needy.

I am very curious to learn how this ends. I suspect that the animal wont make it but you never know what an atypical vet may come up with for it. If both teeth have to be removed to proceed, well, I might consider euthanasia instead.

Feel free to chime in if you think this is a bad suggestion, I dont mind.





Unfortunately, I have to say I agree with Kazko. If it were my glider, I would ither take it back to the breeder or euthinize it... I know that the idea of putting your glider "to sleep" sounds mean, but it's in pain. It's helpless, and as your vet isn't being of any assistance it's actually the best thing you can do for your glider. It won't be in pain anymore, and you won't have to watch him die.

It's totally up to you, that's just my oppinion.

Good luck to you and your little glider! I hope it works out...

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Nov 21 2009 :  03:16:50 PM
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I hope you've heard back-she can't wait any longer. She has to be suffering. :(
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Nov 21 2009 :  03:19:22 PM
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Please update us on what is going on with your glider. Poor little baby.
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