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Feb 14 2012
01:53:43 PM
What's a good site that gives proper information about hedgehogs as pets? Thanks!
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Feb 14 2012
02:35:44 PM
JazzNZoeysmom Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit JazzNZoeysmom's Photo Album USA 5354 Posts
I don't know a thing about Hedgies but I did go to this site and purchase some Happy Glider from her....maybe you can find some info. there.

http://hedgehogsbyvickie.com/
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Feb 14 2012
02:49:50 PM
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I used to have a hedgehog so I would be happy to answer any questions you have if I can. It has been a while since I had him
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Feb 14 2012
03:15:05 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
back when i had hedgehogs i used hedgehog central forum. make sure you find a really good breeder you dont want to end up with a grumpy hedgehog. though my millie was a bit grumpy she was still a great pet.
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Feb 15 2012
07:44:35 AM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
Are they fun? Are they nocturnal or diurnal? How hard are they to care for? How much does it cost to take care of one?

Mostly curious. After we got the gliders I tend to overly research things before I get it, especially pets.
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Feb 15 2012
09:01:08 AM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3479 Posts
They are neither nocturnal nor diurnal. There is a word for what they are, but I don't remember it! Like rabbits, they are most active at dusk and dawn.

They are MUCH easier to care for then gliders. They can be fun, or they can be boring. It is up to what you put into it. Get a hedgehog from a good breeder - and research the breeder! Good breeders handle their hoglets, so they are used to being handled, and don't ball up. Hedgehogs are notoriously grumpy. But it is mostly because they are near-blind. So if they sense movement, they put their quills up first, ask questions later!

I ADORE my Carrot Mouse. She is a joy to have. She's very curious and busy - and I don't think she knows how to ball up.

They are very inexpensive pets, after the initial purchase and set up.

Let me know if you have other questions!



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Feb 15 2012
09:06:22 AM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
Thank you so much!!! Exactly what I was looking for

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Originally posted by valkyriemome

They are neither nocturnal nor diurnal. There is a word for what they are, but I don't remember it! Like rabbits, they are most active at dusk and dawn.

They are MUCH easier to care for then gliders. They can be fun, or they can be boring. It is up to what you put into it. Get a hedgehog from a good breeder - and research the breeder! Good breeders handle their hoglets, so they are used to being handled, and don't ball up. Hedgehogs are notoriously grumpy. But it is mostly because they are near-blind. So if they sense movement, they put their quills up first, ask questions later!

I ADORE my Carrot Mouse. She is a joy to have. She's very curious and busy - and I don't think she knows how to ball up.

They are very inexpensive pets, after the initial purchase and set up.

Let me know if you have other questions!





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Feb 15 2012
09:28:37 AM
JazzNZoeysmom Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit JazzNZoeysmom's Photo Album USA 5354 Posts
Do they need annual vet checks like gliders?

Do they bite or is it just the quills you need to worry about?

They sure are cute!
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Feb 15 2012
09:49:58 AM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3479 Posts
They don't "need" annual vet checks. I got mine checked when I first got them, and haven't since. They can get the same things as gliders - parasites or mites, mostly. But you can pretty much tell when they are sick.

One of mine never raises her quills, so petting her is almost soft. She likes her forehead rubbed. The other does, and she can be spikey to handle. Irritating, but not really painful. They *can* become painful if they are feeling very defensive. Bob just kinda is wary, and not truly defensive. They can bite, and some can be quite aggressive. But, again, a good breeder will be handling their hoglets and breeding against aggressive traits.

They make a stress sound. It sounds like a car that won't turn over - it is their version of "crabbing." It is almost a cute sound, but not so much, because it means the hog is distressed.

Some love swimming, some don't. But they need regular baths. Running literally makes them poop. Since they need a solid surface running wheel, they end up running in their poop. When the poop dries on their feet, their feet can become caked, and it can become really irritating for them. So, they need their feet soaked in warm water at least once a week. Then a full bath about once a month. I usually use oatmeal shampoo on them, and gently wipe them with a soft toothbrush.

My sister had a hog who wasn't very socialized and she declared they are "the most boring pet ever." But she didn't do much research, honestly. I don't find mine boring at all. They are always up for attention, but don't seem to require it, like gliders, so hedgehogs are more flexible as to their attention needs. You can carry them in a bonding pouch, like gliders. I like to take mine to the park in the summer. They seem to enjoy snuffling in the grass.

Bob LOVES her meal worms, Carrot doesn't like them. Bob will actually bite trying to get mealworms from me. Kinda like gliders - she smells the worm and bites indiscriminately.

They can't climb, so their housing is really easy. A large Rubbermaid-type bin, without the lid, if the sides are about a foot high or more. Bedding- I haven't found one I like yet. I've tried just using fleece. I've tried "Yesterday's News." Now I'm using Aspen, and I don't like that, either. They LOVE toilet paper roll tubes. And balls with bells. And I have a little stuffed animal with a bell in it they like to toss around.

They drink A LOT more water than gliders, so you really have to check their water bottle. Two is better- because they tend to knock things up against the water bottle which makes it drain out. :/

They eat a good-quality (but not "high quality" - they actually need some fillers) cat food, plus some veggies. And their bugs. Fruit isn't good for them.

What else?


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Feb 15 2012
10:00:13 AM
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Exotic Nutrition sells a lot of great hedgie products and give information too!
I looked into getting a hedgie before I got a glider, but when I read up more on them, they seemed to get a lot of problems. They normally live until they're 6-7, but at the age of 5 or younger, they can lose all of their teeth and then will have to be fed soft food. They're also prone to tumors in their mouth at a certain age, kind of like how ferrets are prone to lymphatic cancer after 2 years of age.
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Feb 15 2012
10:14:34 AM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3479 Posts
They have problems if they get too fat, too. They don't self-regulate, so you have to really monitor their food intake. They can have strokes. They are very subject to hypothermia, and will try to hibernate if they get too cold - which will kill them. They actually need the room to stay at the warmer end of the glider "range."

They do have problems, of course. No pet is problem-free! Just like ferrets are prone to cancers, and certain breeds of dogs are prone to hip-dysplasia, or other conditions, hedgehogs have their little set of potential problems.

I notice that Exotic Nutrition sells the Wodent for hogs. I wouldn't recommend that. They can get too large to go through the holes. Mine have an open-front bucket-type wheel. They had the saucer wheel http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/forums/attachments/domestic-exotics-classifieds/12165d1274901690-3-x-large-12-flying-ppets-3766196t400.jpg but didn't like it as much.

Their nails need to be clipped fairly frequently - I forgot to mention that.
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Feb 15 2012
10:15:53 AM
valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes Visit valkyriemome's Photo Album USA 3479 Posts
Oh - and they are "loner" type animals. They really do better housed alone. Males and females can't be housed together. 2 males can't, either. I have 2 females housed together, but they'd probably prefer I didn't. :/ They fight over the wheel.
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Feb 15 2012
10:56:13 AM
prettyinpink5808 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit prettyinpink5808's Photo Album 1223 Posts
*didnt read the long posts before this so sorry if im repeating.

Most hedgies need a lot of attention to keep them friendly. Mine is fairly friendly but he only lets me hold him. He balls up and spikes for anyone else. Their poops are pretty stinky, its like a mini human poop! runs on his wheel every night, gets pretty messy so havta clean it often. Hedgies arent social animals so they dont exactly like to be held or picked up...mine definitely isnt 'friendly' but thats just his temperament. They dont necessarily need attention since they are so solitary but if you want a nice pet then you should hold him/her at least 30 mins or more a day...they are prey animals and have bad eyesight so they are naturally scared of everything. My hedgie spikes up and hisses at most quick movements. I definitely like my gliders more...but the hedgie is a nice pet to have if it is a NICE hedgie...i didnt get so lucky. My friends/family think hes a stupid pet since it 'hurts' to hold him and he isnt nice but he has his good moments xD

edit: Btw i dont use a water bottle..i have a self watering bowl (sorta for cats or dogs)...a water bottle isnt really their natural drinking position, so it seems easier for them to drink from a bowl...my hedgie never liked the bottles.

When he was little


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Edited by - prettyinpink5808 on Feb 15 2012 11:04:40 AM
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Feb 15 2012
12:09:48 PM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
Hmmm...

I'm so torn. I want something easier to take care of than the gliders that we can enjoy during the day (don't get me wrong, we're keeping our suggies and love them to pieces!)

I kinda want something cuddly though! HRMMMMM
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Feb 15 2012
01:16:26 PM
shadow Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit shadow's Photo Album MO, USA 2332 Posts
they can be cuddly kinda. they dont always have their spikes up. they will lay them down and you can pet them like you would a cat or dog. my hedgehogs used to love to groom our hair lol. every day i would tell millie its time to rise and shine and she would wake up and come over to the cage bars to come see me.
you could always go find a breeder and go visit them. maybe once you handle them you will get a better idea if they are right for you.
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Feb 15 2012
01:38:48 PM
Grace Face Hugger Visit Grace's Photo Album 428 Posts
Get a rat! Rats are wonderful pets! They're like small dogs that sit on your shoulder and love to run around. Despite their horrible past, a rat is the best pet I've had so far. I love my gliders and all, but rats take a lot less time to get to love you, and they really show their effection. They love to lick and groom their owners, and my girls loved to fall asleep in my hand. They do chew, but not as much as one thinks. They love running on wheels, and are best when kept in pairs for company, however one rat will suffice if you take it out often. For my girls, I had them in the rat manor from petco that was about 100 bucks. It's 3 story, easy to clean, and pretty large.
OH, their food can be purchased at a regular grocery store. Pet stores try to sell rat food that contains corn in it, but corn can have parasites and causes stomach cancer in rats. If you look online, they have a lot of awesome diets out there. The sad part, is that rats live about 2-3 years, 4 if you get lucky. All rats, unless born in a lab, will have a respiratory disorder where they will sneeze a good bit, and red porphyrn will leak from their eyes and nose. It's not much to worry about, but many people will put their rats on antibiotics to help reduce the symptoms. I just bought echinacea in liquid form and gave them each a drop at night to help reduce the symptoms. Their tail isn't that gross either, though most people have issues with it. They're super clean also, and smell very little.
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Feb 15 2012
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Oh, and if you work at it, rats can be litter trained. If they are bonded with you enough, they normally won't poo on you, but they pee in trails. It's less annoying than with gliders though, because you don't tend to end up with pee on your head, or in the only part of your back you can't reach.
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Feb 15 2012
03:57:20 PM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
I've heard rat from a few different people. I honestly LOVE rats. My friend had a pair from when she was studying to be a vet tech. Sweetest thing, they trained him to not potty out of the cage. I don't feel my boyfriend would be a fan....

I have to ponder. I don't want to impulse by like I did with the gliders (yes, my original glider was an impulse buy, but I'm a damn good glider mama!)
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Feb 15 2012
06:48:04 PM
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Well, take your boyfriend to the pet store on a "glider" run, and while you're at it, take him to the rat cages. If you ask the people at the store, they will let you hold one and love on it if they think you're interested. They're so wonderful, best pet I've had so far. I'm not counting my gliders in this range though. They're more like children, lol.
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Feb 15 2012
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prettyinpink5808 Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap Visit prettyinpink5808's Photo Album 1223 Posts
I've wanted to try rats but the ones we have at the lab kind of ruin my views on them. I know lab rats are different from pet rats so im willing to have one as a pet one day. Although it is sad that they have such a short lifespan
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Feb 16 2012
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i say rats. both of my kids had rats when they were young. they were the greatest pets, so smart, never bit. my son's would actually come when you called him. but, yes, sadly, their lifespan is short.
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Feb 16 2012
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Yea, labs really only use rats because of their short life span, their ability to breed quickly, and the fact that their chemical composition is similar to ours in a few ways. Their lifespan is the downside of rats though... if it wasn't for that, I would get tons of them.

I actually had an incident where my rats, Tesla(cream and white dumbo with red eyes) and Persephone(petsmart black and white regular) got loose because I forgot to close their cage door all the way. I went to go watch tv in another room, and was in that room for about an hour. All was fine, until I heard tiny, faint, padding sounds that sounded like something hitting the carpet.
Well, I looked down on the floor, and Tesla was running as fast as her legs would carry her across the room. I jumped off of the bed I was on, and lunged for her. She froze, and squeaked with disappointment that I had finally caught her since she had been free for about an hour. I brought her back to my room, hoping that Seph was still in her cage and hadn't got loose, but the moment I entered my room, it looked like a tornado had gone through.
A potted plant on my bedside table was knocked over, and dirt was everywhere. I inspected Tes, and yes, she had dirt all over her mouth. She didn't even look a little bit guilty.
Since they had a fear of falling off my bed when they were on it, I placed Tes on the bed, and went looking for Seph upon discovering that she was indeed not in her cage.
I looked everywhere. I ran around frantically for 30 minutes, looking under the fridge (Tes's favorite spot when she got out), in the laundry room, in the bathroom, under beds, everywhere. I felt all hope was lost, and that my baby was gone forever... somewhere under the house where she would live as a street rat.
I went back to my bedroom to grab Tes off the bed and put her in the cage. As soon as I walked up to the bed, she poked her head out from my blanket, and ran up to the edge of the bed, just asking to be picked up and loved.
I cuddled her before I walked to the cage and put her away.
That was when I noticed it. Something in my blankets was moving. I heard sneezing.
Relief flooded through my every vein as I lifted up the blanket, and saw Seph curled up in a ball. She had managed to make herself a little bed while she was out, and out of all of the places she could have gone, she choose my bed. Her spot was warm, like she had been sleeping there at least an hour and a half. I picked her up and kissed her all over, all the while she kept lifting up her hand in my face as if to say "no more kisses!"
I will always remember that day. Especially because I kept finding small things with a bite taken out of it many weeks afterwards.
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Feb 16 2012
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lol, good story. when one of my gliders got out, i knew he was still in the house because my kitchen was like you described. stuff knocked off of shelves, fruit in the fruit bowl with bites taken out of it, pictures knocked off the front of the fridge (how did he manage that?)
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Feb 16 2012
09:32:09 AM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
I said rat and he completely shut down

He's open to a hedgehog though. I shall have to do more research!

Or I can wait until we get a house and get a dog...but that's forever from now!!!!!
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Feb 16 2012
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Originally posted by BlackDrappa

I said rat and he completely shut down

He's open to a hedgehog though. I shall have to do more research!

Or I can wait until we get a house and get a dog...but that's forever from now!!!!!



Honestly...what is so horrible to him with the rat? A hedgie is obviously different but not that different!! A rat would be a much nicer pet in my opinion...hedgies can be nice pets if you have the time for them and you just so happen to have a good tempered one. (and im speaking from experience) Also, both hedgie and gliders are nocturnal, so you really have to figure out how to give them all attention. Not a good idea to have hedgie and gliders running about in the same room at the same time. Yo can socialize with a rat during the day and play with the gliders at night
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Feb 16 2012
09:44:24 AM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
He thinks they're "weird"...

HELLO!! We have GLIDERS! At least when you mention a pet rat, people know what you are talking about I don't know. I need to research more and sit down with him and discuss the pros and cons.
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Feb 16 2012
09:48:11 AM
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Originally posted by BlackDrappa

He thinks they're "weird"...

HELLO!! We have GLIDERS! At least when you mention a pet rat, people know what you are talking about I don't know. I need to research more and sit down with him and discuss the pros and cons.



Good idea!! haha...i got the hedgie for me AND and boyfriend. Now the hedgie is mostly MY pet b/c he doesnt like to touch him...he thinks he is too hurtful to touch (your hands just have to get used to it). I will put the hedgie on my lap and watch tv, my bf wont even do that! hes too worried that the spikes will go through his pants which they do sometimes!
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Feb 16 2012
10:06:49 AM
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Show him this link and he may not think that anymore

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Feb 16 2012
11:34:18 AM
BlackDrappa Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit BlackDrappa's Photo Album BlackDrappa's Journal NY, USA 1876 Posts
He admitted he doesn't know much about them We also have to figure out where we would put them though....if we got them.

The cool thing is that the rescue that I'm fostering for, has rats for adoption. So even if we weren't sure if rats are right for us, I think they would let us foster and try it out! I think it's a great way to get a feel for an animal.
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Feb 16 2012
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Yea, sounds good! I think you will fall in love with them. Once you get one, you become obessed and want to know every small thing about them. Although people say all animals need vet care, rats only live a few years, and since they are inbred there is a high chance of them developing problems down the road that wouldn't improve with vet care. They're pretty cheap when it comes to pets, and they play with you instead of around you like hamsters do.
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Feb 17 2012
12:15:01 AM
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What about a chinchilla ever consider one?
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