Oh my Kylah & Catman i hope you both stay safe. Kylah i hope your home stays safe also but atleast you had the time and were ready when you had to evacuate and you got the most important things out...your family & pets. My prayers are with you all and wildlife there & i hope that they catch the awful person that has caused the destruction of such beautiful land and homes.


edit: i think everyone reading this was under the impresssion that when you evucauted with having a few days to prepare you were taking you sugies how could you not? You took your dog but not your other pets and just left them with water. i could understand if you had to leave and had no prior knowledge that you had to but you had days and you still left them. I don't feel bad for you if you loose your house. i feel bad for your poor sugar gliders that had to endure being trapped in a cage, smoldered with smoke. what in the world. A bonding pouch is not that big it would of taken five extra minutes to get them into it and take them with you. When we have hurricanes here in NC i don't leave me pets if i go they go because they are family and just as important. I feel sick to now.

You are a straight idiot and have no idea of all the details.

really i don't feel the details matter, go ahead and try to make yourself feel better for leaving you poor sugar gliders to possibly die a horrible death. You are heartless and i have nothing else to say to you. If you could get your dog out i have no doubt that you could have taken your sugar gliders if you had half a brain to do so. So you didn't think it would happen well there was a chance and you made a stupid and heartless decision and now those poor babies have to endure the pain. i hope you can live with yourself because i couldn't.

Kelly, you might want to go back and read ALL the posts before making someone's situation worse by making false accusations.

i read every single comment before i posted saying i was sorry never did she mention not taking her poor gliders with her. And the fire first started 3 days ago, when she said "they were getting ready incase they had to evacuate" if thats not time to plan how to get out but also bring your pets i don't know what is. If my pet wasn't going and i thought they would be fine id be staying to and if i thought it wasn't safe enough for my boyfriend and I my gliders would be coming to.

Although I am very glad that you "read this thread so closely" that you totally missed the fact that I am also in Colorado Springs (not as affected by the fire as Kylah but certainly as affected as Catman)...

... I do not see in this thread where you are getting your information from about Kylah.

Please show me where Kylah said she got her dog(s) out but not her Gliders.

Believe me, she in NO way affects my situation, good or bad. Whoever gave you the half assed and partial info is an idiot as well. The people that actually know me, all know I do not have my gliders with me. So you know the part where you said you had nothing else to say to me? Deal.

"Here's my update for today: Still at my brother's...no info about my house or neighborhood. The smoke is so thick, I can't even see that side of town or the mountains. The news is a little too vague for my liking but I know they have far more important priorities. The optimistic news is, they haven't spoken much about our neighborhood and the ones they have focused on have been the most devastated so we're holding out hope that no news is possibly good news. From what I understand though, today will most likely be a close repeat of yesterday. I just don't think I can get back to each and every one of you that has messaged me or sent texts or called...there are so many of you and all that does is confirm how thankful I am for all of you and all you've offered. We are very fortunate to not need anything at this time. Others are in far worse situations. We all have friends that have lost their homes for sure already.

*Sigh* I'm just going to tell you now, we did leave our cat and sugar gliders behind. I cannot tell you how sick I feel. When we left the house, no houses were burning and I really, truly thought we'd be going back when the smoke cleared or at least, within a few days. I left food/water for them for many days...left the a/c on and all ceiling fans. If you know me, you know I would NEVER EVER have left them if I thought I wouldn't be going back and my pets are sucha huge part of our lives. We were told at that time that the fire would NOT get to our area. I am still hopeful that my home is still standing and they'll be fine for a few days. I have other reasons that factored in that I am just not going to take the time to list. I am sick enough that I may have to face the consequences and guilt of my decision.

Not sure what else to say."

I went onto her Facebook off of glider gossip to look at the pictures and the above post is a few down...
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I don't have my gliders. Everyone that knows me already knows that. Show of hands, actual glider friends? Did I keep that a secret? You should be a P.I. You can find things out on Facebook that people posted publicly for all to see.

Wow kelly.. u really need to shut the hole in your face

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Believe me, she in NO way affects my situation, good or bad. Whoever gave you the half assed and partial info is an idiot as well. The people that actually know me, all know I do not have my gliders with me. So you know the part where you said you had nothing else to say to me? Deal.

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No i do not affect your situation. As everyone is wishing you good luck and feeling sorry for you, you never made it public in this thread even in all your "updates" that you did not take your gliders. I feel that that was very mis leading, wrong and i don't agree with it at all. If everyone here is feeling sorry for you and whatnot but doesn't know you didn't take ALL your pets that is the same thing as you lying in my eyes.

Ohhhh, it is information on Facebook, not here. I understand.

Let her spew...

I hate disrespectful little twits

& thats why i feel it was so wrong no where in this thread did she mention not taking her gliders even once she updated that she was safe and evucauted. It was misleading at the least and i felt bad so bad, until i went to look at pics of the fire, saw that post and felt mislead and angry. I don't understand how anyone could do that to their pets, my gliders are like my babies and i couldn't even stomach the thought of leaving them in a house that was being evucauted because a fire was in the area. Even not knowing that the house would for sure burn or even if it has, how could you take that chance and risk them dieting a awful, painful death.

I do not care what you think of me or think you know. That goes for anyone else. I don't need people feeling sorry for me. I don't need anything from anyone, haven't asked for anything from anyone and certainly haven't accepted anything from anyone. What exactly benefits me again? You aren't my friend...never have been. What gives you the impression I sleep at night? You know NOTHING.

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I hate disrespectful little twits

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screw off, you agree well i feel awful for your pets as well. I hate people that don't think leaving a poor innocent animal to burn is okay in any situation. This is a GLIDER community and i don't feel bad for the people that are going to leave their gliders to an awful death. How could anyone is beyond me.

Nope i bet you don't sleep at night, knowing that you left those poor animals to suffer. & nope I'm not your friend, never have been, never will be and thank god for that because why would want to be friends with someone so heartless.

You have no idea what she is going thru.. no idea at all! Its her choice what info she decides to share with who.. keep your disrespectful comments to yourself please

My human "babies" will always take precedence. ALWAYS.

Kelly, how many people left their pets at home during Katrina because government officials said it was not going to be bad - until it was TOO LATE!

I'm so happy you are so fortunate to have a magic eight ball that foretells what will happen to you - pets included - regardless of what the people in charge of evacuations are telling you. I'm sure the HUMAN BEINGS that listened to officials and DIED are to blame for their own deaths, too.

So the gliders had to stay. Do YOU have all the information and factors that the evacuees had to take into consideration in order for you to sit in judgement?

I, for one, have evacuation priorities. My family first, pets second. Would I leave a pet if it would hinder the evacuation of my children? Absolutely!

And judge not, lest you be judged. It's gonna be a loooog hurricane season.

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My human "babies" will always take precedence. ALWAYS.

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Okay i could understand that, as i said. But knowing a fire was coming your way in days prior and saying that you were prepared would leave anyone that read this to think you would be taking your gliders also. My comments may be disrespectful but someone who is that cruel doesn't deserve my respect. Obviousley you didn't WANT to disclose this information on here for a reason so keep making excuses after excuse but nothing will justify what you did...

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Kelly, how many people left their pets at home during Katrina because government officials said it was not going to be bad - until it was TOO LATE!

I'm so happy you are so fortunate to have a magic eight ball that foretells what will happen to you - pets included - regardless of what the people in charge of evacuations are telling you. I'm sure the HUMAN BEINGS that listened to officials and DIED are to blame for their own deaths, too.

So the gliders had to stay. Do YOU have all the information and factors that the evacuees had to take into consideration in order for you to sit in judgement?

I, for one, have evacuation priorities. My family first, pets second. Would I leave a pet if it would hinder the evacuation of my children? Absolutely!

And judge not, lest you be judged. It's gonna be a loooog hurricane season.

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I understand making sure your human family is safe first but with this fire and with hurricanes you have time to prepare just as kyro had and you make sure that you expect the worse, plan for the worse, and can take on any situation without putting human or animal family at risk... I don't have a magic 8 ball at all, i wish i did, no one does but i say from experience that i always do the best i can and never have i lost a pet because of a natural disaster. If i felt my life was in danger or could be i would expect my pets to be also and a sugar glider isn't that big i can put my boys in their bonding pouch in under one min. and be gone, if i had days i could take the cage to where i was staying for just incase, i could go to the store and buy a 30 dollar tent if i had to leave the cage. I could make due with just my boys and nothing else until i could go get them someone to sleep and food and ect. it could be done, it could have been done but unfortunately it was not done and i pray that kyro's house didn't burn not for her sake but for her gliders.

Oh and for the record, not that I owe anyone anything, once I started getting messages from people offering help, I realized I hadn't mentioned my pets. I wasn't reading everything people were posting. I was getting phone calls non stop and couldn't keep up with everyone in my family wanting updates. Once I started getting those messages and had time to read all posts and messages, I let my actual friends know what was going on. People that matter know how much I love my pets but I love my family more. You do not know exactly what was going on when we got the notice or how much time I actually had when we got the notice. We had just started packing and I had EVERY intention of them being a natural given part of that. That's as much explanation as anyone besides my family gets. I do not care what one single person here that does not know me thinks of me. Until you are in the EXACT same circumstance, you have no right to judge, although you clearly feel you are qualified.

...and I didn't start this thread!

Anyone else wanting updates, turn on the TV. I'm not the one who wants attention in this thread.

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Originally posted by PrimoWorks

Kelly, how many people left their pets at home during Katrina because government officials said it was not going to be bad - until it was TOO LATE!

I'm so happy you are so fortunate to have a magic eight ball that foretells what will happen to you - pets included - regardless of what the people in charge of evacuations are telling you. I'm sure the HUMAN BEINGS that listened to officials and DIED are to blame for their own deaths, too.

So the gliders had to stay. Do YOU have all the information and factors that the evacuees had to take into consideration in order for you to sit in judgement?

I, for one, have evacuation priorities. My family first, pets second. Would I leave a pet if it would hinder the evacuation of my children? Absolutely!

And judge not, lest you be judged. It's gonna be a loooog hurricane season.

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I understand making sure your human family is safe first but with this fire and with hurricanes you have time to prepare just as kyro had and you make sure that you expect the worse, plan for the worse, and can take on any situation without putting human or animal family at risk... I don't have a magic 8 ball at all, i wish i did, no one does but i say from experience that i always do the best i can and never have i lost a pet because of a natural disaster.

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Tell that to the 1,500+ people that died during Katrina. Or the ones I helped care for at the Cajundome, being bussed in in the clothes they were wearing, caked in mud, sick, and destitute. Or tell that to the 2 that died this week during Debby. By your accounting, they not do their best preparing, since there was plenty of warning.

You always do your best, you say. How do you know your best will ALWAYS be enough? What makes you think others don't try to do their best?

My point is, people have lost their homes. They have been completely uprooted. They have lost beloved pets (fyi, during Katrina, pets were NOT allowed to be evacuated with people, and shelters did NOT allow pets). They may lose friends or family. A little compassion costs just that, a little. Words can help a situation or make it unbearable (think suicides because of bullying). If you feel she did wrong, fine. But please don't make a bad situation worse.

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now. Good night, all.

Im just saying you gave update after update and NEVER mentioned to everyone that was concerned for you that you didn't take your gliders. Im pretty sure everyone was under the impression that you did and i think you knew that but didn't want to tell everyone on here you didn't because you knew you would have people like me that got upset and mad that someone, anyone could do that and just leave a innocent animal to suffer. I do not and will never understand how someone that knows a fire is nearby and knows that is under pre-evucaution and could guess they will most likely have to evacuate could not find the time in at least 24 hours prior to make arrangements or put your gliders in a pouch in 2 mins. and just take them. I do not think in two mins you would have risked your human families lives by taking an extra two mins. you just would of saved what is it 5 precious ones.


@Primo Works- i know that there are natural disasters that have taken the lives of many (human and animal) and then to they had time to get out before being made to. Why wait till the last min. and risk it? I know some things are inevitable and just nature takes over but i don't feel this was completely the case here.

The main part of this that really made me so mad and i had to say something was that i felt she tried to deceive people (maybe not her close friends that she told), the general people here by not mentioning it. That was wrong and that is what made me maddest of all. I think i would of taken a diff. approach to this entire thread/convo. but knowing she basically lied was just wrong and made the entire thing much worse in my eyes. The entire fire is tragic, yes and i feel awful for all the people loosing their homes and lives but sometimes it can be prevented and when it can everyone should do everything they possibly can to prevent loss.

@Kyro- i don't want or need anyones attention, i haven't even been on much lately, and now don't care to be. I felt EVERYONE should know the truth though and not just "select people" because this thread was misleading.

I've said what i need/want to say and I'm done with it, I hope your gliders and cat are okay and I'm praying for them and them only. Goodnight all.

I live far away from the fire. Technically I live about a 1/4 mile south of Colorado Springs(Security)and about 5 miles east of the mountains or the foothills.I had to drive a couple blocks closer to the fire to get the pictures I took.

Kelly, you are an insensitive human being. You don't know what has been going on in Kylah's life. What if she didn't know that the fire was coming in her direction? I was under the impression that she left her home because of the smoke, but couldn't return like planned. I'm sorry and correct me if I'm wrong, Kylah.

If she threw "all of her sugar gliders in a bonding pouch", what would she do at night when she wanted to come out and play at night? What if she couldn't transport them all to her brother's house? Like she said on FB, she was TOLD THAT THE FIRE WOULD NOT REACH HER AREA. She also said that she left enough FOOD AND WATER. Not just water.

Don't you think she feels completely awful about this? Don't you think that she gets a sick feeling in her stomach every time that she thinks about it? I know that in a time of disaster and devastation, I would try to get my children together, get their things together, and get the hell out of there! As much as it would sicken me, if my children were in danger of an environmental disaster, I would put them first. Even if it meant putting my pets behind.

You're only making it worse by saying the cruel things that you said. You have no idea what she is going through and the pain that she is going through. How dare you make this even more painful than it already is. Imagine possibly losing your home, your personal belongings, your pets, and then some little idiot has to tell you how horrible you are.

I absolutely can NOT believe what I am reading right now. To tell someone that you hope their house burns down? WTF is wrong with you? You need to take a step back.

If you don't agree with Kylah's decision - what benefit did you expect to obtain from spitting venom at her about it?

Tell you what, I DO consider Kylah a friend and I have read all the updates here and on FB. This has to be the hardest situation her family has ever had to endure and her pets factored in make it even worse - didn't you see the tone in that post??? How can you think you are helping anything (gliders included) by alienating, pouring salt in wounds, and attacking her? Seriously?

I would strongly suggest you keep malicious comments to yourself about this situation. You want to disagree with her actions - 'effing fine...but you do it in private if there is nothing constructive to add.

Uughh how horrible.. @ catman.. is the nationagol guard involved in helping?