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  |  Piripon
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Jul 18 2012 : 05:32:29 PM    |
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So instead of putting the HPW powder on their fruits and veggies daily, may I put this powder? the ingredients are a Complete set of balanced vitamins for mammals, calcium, nectar, bee pollen, probiotics, acacia and herbs. And how often can I feed them bugs and some small vertebrates, as well as monkey biscuits?
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 | LHill
Super Glider
  VA, USA
347 Posts
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Jul 18 2012 : 05:38:22 PM  |
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?? HPW powder isn't suppose to be sprinkled on their veggies or fruit but instead mixed as a food source and fed separately. Refer to the links for diet at the top. It is never recommended to sprinkle anything because exact dosing and amount consumed can't be gauged.
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| Helen88uk
Fuzzy Wuzzy
United Kingdom
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Jul 18 2012 : 05:46:34 PM  |
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With Wombaroo High Protein powder, you can just add it to fruits and vegetables. Instructions are on the box as to how much. I feed blended fruits and veg and I add it to mine.
Piripon, we'd need to see the box to be able to tell you. Can you post a link to it somewhere? A complete set of balanced vitamins for mammals could mean anything depending on what mammal it was designed for. With gliders being marsupials I think their requirements for such things are a little more specific.
I don't think monkey biscuits are a protein source, they are more of a filler, just something like a snack thats neither here nor there nutrition wise. Not saying they're bad, a lot of people use them alongside their diets, but just wanted to clarify.
I'd personally use the Wombaroo High Protein Powder with your fruis and veg, it's been tried and tested and gives fantastic results. You can feed bugs every night if you wish, depending on what kind of bugs they are. The mice and birds I would only offer once a week.
Could you possible post your full diet on here so we can give you better help with it, as I don't know what you're feeding alongside these things so it's hard to say what they'd be lacking or getting too much of :)
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| Candy
Zippy Glidershorts
USA
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Jul 18 2012 : 05:50:21 PM |
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What is "This Powder" - did you mean to put a link?
The Wombaroo High Protein Supplement is used as an ingredient on several glider diets.
There has been some discussion about using the Wombaroo High Protein Supplement and mixing it with fruits and vegetables - as suggested on the package. This is part of a feeding plan used in Australia that also includes feeding the Wombaroo Small Carnovore Food which just recently has become available in the US.
http://thepamperedglider.webs.com/supplements.htm
Someone will probably post a link to the discussion on this feeding plan, but it is not widely used.
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| okusandman
Face Hugger
870 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 11:55:23 AM |
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I am trying to switch mine from BML to HPW and out of the six, only one ate it last night.
I am adding some applesauce and honey to it today to see if that makes a difference (is that bad?) but if you aren't supposed to mix it with fruits and veggies, what else can you do?
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| Helen88uk
Fuzzy Wuzzy
United Kingdom
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Jul 19 2012 : 12:00:13 PM |
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With the HPW diet, you mix the powder with water and honey (and some other things) and feed it in a dish with fruits and veg alongside.
What is it you are adding apple sauce and honey to?
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| okusandman
Face Hugger
870 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 12:16:26 PM |
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The HPW Instant said just to add water because the honey etc. was already in it. They ate their fresh stuff and didn't touch the HPW.
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| petluv15
Fuzzy Wuzzy
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Jul 19 2012 : 12:21:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by okusandman
I am trying to switch mine from BML to HPW and out of the six, only one ate it last night.
I am adding some applesauce and honey to it today to see if that makes a difference (is that bad?) but if you aren't supposed to mix it with fruits and veggies, what else can you do?
You can mix it with the fruit/veggies nightly - its just not recommended to pre-mix an entire batch to freeze. I'd give them a few more nights to try it - sometimes they just have to get a taste of it and are leery of trying something new.
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| TJones09
Fuzzy Wuzzy
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Jul 19 2012 : 12:37:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by petluv15
quote:
Originally posted by okusandman
I am trying to switch mine from BML to HPW and out of the six, only one ate it last night.
I am adding some applesauce and honey to it today to see if that makes a difference (is that bad?) but if you aren't supposed to mix it with fruits and veggies, what else can you do?
You can mix it with the fruit/veggies nightly - its just not recommended to pre-mix an entire batch to freeze. I'd give them a few more nights to try it - sometimes they just have to get a taste of it and are leery of trying something new.
I agree, mix following the instructions when making your HPW batch and then if you want to serve with f/v you can try that, but first try giving them a couple of days, then serve with the f/v all combined, if they eat it then, try to offer separately to see if they'll still eat it. If they don't you can continue to serve with the f/v combo, if they do eat it both ways, it gives you a change up for them.
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| BrandyF
Glider
USA
77 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 12:37:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Piripon
So instead of putting the HPW powder on their fruits and veggies daily, may I put this powder? the ingredients are a Complete set of balanced vitamins for mammals, calcium, nectar, bee pollen, probiotics, acacia and herbs. And how often can I feed them bugs and some small vertebrates, as well as monkey biscuits?
Your description sounds like you are referring to The Pet Glider Complete Vitamins. If it is, those are designed specifically for use with the Priscilla Price Diet. The recipe can be found here - Priscilla Price Diet
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| TJones09
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1990 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 12:40:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Piripon
So instead of putting the HPW powder on their fruits and veggies daily, may I put this powder? the ingredients are a Complete set of balanced vitamins for mammals, calcium, nectar, bee pollen, probiotics, acacia and herbs. And how often can I feed them bugs and some small vertebrates, as well as monkey biscuits?
Oh, sorry, I got confused on the thread, you need to be more specific about a product when asking if it's ok to use. But follow this rule: When in doubt, don't do it, or in this case, use it. If the High Protein Wombaroo powder gives you instructions to sprinkle on f/v, just use that & follow instructions. Why change up anyway?
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| okusandman
Face Hugger
870 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 01:43:05 PM |
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Thanks everyone - sorry if I hijacked your thread Piripon!
I really needed to get to something simpler so when I go out of town my kids can feed them easily (they are 17 and 21 but still).
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| TJones09
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1990 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 02:19:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by okusandman
Thanks everyone - sorry if I hijacked your thread Piripon!
I really needed to get to something simpler so when I go out of town my kids can feed them easily (they are 17 and 21 but still).
I don't know about BML, never fed it, but I use the HPW, original, it's easy.
For when going away, try to get your servings per/night in separate containers s/a little food storage containers for each evening, you can scoop in a meals serving of HPW then depending on length of trip store in freezer or fridg. The f/v can be chopped and stored in plastic snack baggies in fridg or if extended trip, kept frozen also. If you want to mix the already prepared HPW & the chopped or blended f/v combos in same container that should be ok also.
When serving their dinner, your kids can just place the individual serving in the food dish/dishes as required. Maybe BML could be done the same way, I'm not familiar with that diet.
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| ResaJane
Face Hugger
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Jul 19 2012 : 05:43:22 PM |
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BML can be done the same way. If it's only for a few days (up to 4) the BML mix can be stored unfrozen in the fridge while more containers of it can be stored frozen and thawed when/if needed.
Resa
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| okusandman
Face Hugger
870 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 08:17:11 PM |
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Trips are for 7 days. I read HPW freezes soft but didnt see anything about freezing BML at all. If they don't take to it I guess I will go back to what they all like.
Thanks again for all the info!
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| Kruegon
Glider
USA
182 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 08:34:00 PM |
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BML is a frozen serving also. The BML recipie on this site may be out of date. Here is the link for the most recent formulation and instructions of the BML diet.
http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/leadbeat.html
Mix it up and freeze it. Dish it out nightly as prescribed in the ionstructions. And the BML and HPW both freeze rather hard in my opinion. Or maybe my freezer just freezes hard. But it's difficult to spoon out compared to ice cream, which is what it is compared to.
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| TJones09
Fuzzy Wuzzy
1990 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 08:50:03 PM |
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The HPW original I mix up & freeze is the consistency of ice cream, I can just scoop it out with my plastic measuring spoon, I let it sit while I serve up the f/v and then smoosh & stir up the HPW till it's more slushy to liquid, depending how long it sat and temp in the house. I don't know what the BML freezes like, so couldn't say if it was hard or not, but I don't think the HPW is that hard. I guess it's a matter of perception of what hard is.
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| okusandman
Face Hugger
870 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 11:06:26 PM |
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Well I smushed some mango and blueberries up with it tonight so I'll see how the gang takes to it.
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| ResaJane
Face Hugger
409 Posts
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Jul 19 2012 : 11:43:31 PM |
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I don't even scoop it out frozen anymore lol. I thaw out a container as another is used up. I put 4 days worth in each container.
Resa
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| Candy
Zippy Glidershorts
USA
4516 Posts
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Jul 20 2012 : 10:51:28 AM |
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It appears the discussion is going forward with out any input from the original poster.
Piripon - we still do not know what "this powder?" refers to so we cannot begin to give you an answer to your question.
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