I have been doing lots of research on food diet treats ... I have been going with the bml diet they love it and are doing well I have mango and licky treats but my boyfriend and I sometimes like to eat dinner in our room watching a movie my baby's are in our room and even having there own diner like to beg for some of ours we don't mind giving them each a small amount but I want to make shur we wont make them sick I seen they cant have chocolate like most animals or nuts and seeds no greasy food lettus and very little to no cheese but then there's people that say no to grapes and others that say yes to grapes other than that idk so if you know of anything else they cant have or what your opinion on the grapes please let me know

Onions, Garlic and Rhubarb are also on the "never feed" list although the very, small amount of garlic in some of the popular 'Green juices' many folks use have not been a problem for gliders.

On the BML Feeding plan you should really stick to the Frozen Mixed Vegetables and the short list of fruits allowed on the diet.

A very small bit of other fruits as a treat would be OK but not as their full fruit portion for the night.

I do feed my gliders grapes about once every few weeks when I have them. I feel the problem is in the skin of the very dark grapes. I prefer the green seedless grapes myself and my gliders leave the skins behind so we have not had any issues with grapes.

Many folks err on the side of caution and do not feed grapes - Not having grapes will not cause any harm so if they make you nervous, just avoid feeding them.

the lady I got my gliders from gave me the BML diet I do feed them frozen mixed veggie along with meal worms and fruit and the mixture but I didn't get a list of expectable fruit I've been giving them apple strawberry and kiwi but planed on getting frozen mixed fruit is that ok

Here are the original directions for BML.

http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugargliders/bml/leadbeat.html

The only fruits you should be feeding with BML are:

apples, grapes, watermelon, cantaloupe, honeydew melon, frozen pitted cherries and blueberries

It is a very specific choice because the frozen mixed vegetables and these fruits which are a bit higher in phosphorus are necessary to balance the calcium provided by the amount of supplement in the BML Recipe.

If you want to offer a wide variety of fruits and vegetables you would need to choose another staple recipe.

I have links to several widely used glider feeding plans on my web page if you would like to read about the other glider staples and feeding plans that will meet your gliders nutritional needs.:

http://www.gliderkids.com/contact.html

I don't feed mine grapes... I'm one of those people who would just rather play it safe.

Have you checked out the the gliderpedia? It has some great info, here is a link to safe foods:

www.sugarglider.com/gliderpedia/index.asp?SafeFoodsForYourSugarGlider

check out this one too, there is also a break down with calcium on the site:
www.sweet-sugar-gliders.com/safe-fruits-and-vegetables.html


Also Candy mentioned the "green drink" and I thought about giving mine some before because I buy it for myself time to time... yummy. But haven't since there is garlic, even though it is a miniscule amount.

I have a question on that now.

I have heard of people replacing the water with the green drink as well in the diets. (For example the HPW, I sometimes switch the water out for some orange juice.) However is that safe for the green drinks?

PS I am guilty of feeding cheese time to time... they love it so much! I am careful though and hid when I want a late night string cheese snack otherwise I will have at least one trying to take it right out of my mouth!

Candy,


If they are on the HPW diet, what are the staple fruits and veggies that are allowed?

Should I be doing frozen veggies? I've been doing fresh veggie and fruit. I'm in the process of changing mine over to HPW from what the people told me to feed mine, which I'm sure is not good for them.

I've been feeding grapefruits, apples, oranges, and a tiny bit of lime every now and then.

Veggies I tend to stick with baby carrots, snow peas, green beans, and watercress.

I give them a tiny bit of everything each night with the wet mix I give them now.

You've answered so many of my questions before, and you seem to know a ton on diet. Help!

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I have a question on that now.

I have heard of people replacing the water with the green drink as well in the diets. (For example the HPW, I sometimes switch the water out for some orange juice.) However is that safe for the green drinks?

PS I am guilty of feeding cheese time to time... they love it so much! I am careful though and hid when I want a late night string cheese snack otherwise I will have at least one trying to take it right out of my mouth!

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Treats are fine in moderation. If you choose a cheese treat or a tiny piece of vanilla cup cake as long as it is a taste and not all the time. I have given Magoo a taste of many many things I have eaten like cake/a corner of a cracker/a lick of cool whip or a grape. It is fine but not all the time.

As for the Green juice the garlic in them is very very small and many people offer them. I would not replace the water in any diet with juice. IMO that is worst then offering the human treat. You are altering the entire diet which is not good. You can add a spoonful of juice into a serving a ew nights but I would not replace any ingredient with it.
If you want a garlic free Green Juice then buy Knudson's Mega Green. It has no garlic in it.

If you want a diet with lots of variation and made of juice and many healthy things then try Val's Green Variety. It lets you add in things in different batches and you can choose any fruits and veggies you please as long as it is not on the 100% do not give list. You can get all the ingredients in your local health food stores.

Good Luck

Sorry I did not mean I replace everything with juice. (I was not at all clear and forgot the "some" in switching out some water.) Just sometimes take out a little water and replace it with 1/4cup of oj, but this doesn't happen often since there is sugar added and orange juice is acidic. They seem to like the change if they have grown tired of it. (I have 5 gliders right now so one batch doesn't last long unfortunately) I never change their water bottles to juice if that is what you thought, but I will pour a tiny bit of something like mango maddness as a treat once and a while alongside their din din.


Thanks for the info on the green drink! I will look up Knudson's Mega Green

If you replace even part of the water called for in ANY staple recipe with juice you are altering the nutritional balance of the entire staple mixture.

Replacing water with any type of juice increases the SUGAR content of the diet. Any of the HPW diets are already high in sugars due to the amount of honey in the mixture. Gliders do not need more sugar than these recipes already call for.

Other diets that include honey and juices in the recipe have already accounted for the amount of sugar in the feeding. Adding juices instead of water in these diets is not recommended.

Mix which ever staple you choose as directed. You can safely offer a small amount of the green juices as a treat or as part of the fruits and vegetables you are feeding. (juice should not replace all of the fruits or vegetables though)

Good to know, I won't do it again. I haven't in a long time and maybe only done it twice in the 4 years after reading about people putting juice in... and thought it was a good idea. Its always better to get more knowledge and learn from others, no one is perfect... otherwise we'd all be superheros from a comic book stand point.

Thanks you!

well thank you everyone I just learned a lot and am going to continually research

Let me start by saying I have two human children, and have owned/cared for several types of animals mainly your typical horse dog cat glider and and exotics (through awesome life opportunity!)

It is imperative for US to hold the "food specialist" accountable! LOOK AT YOUR INGREDIENTS any BY product or MEAL is basically the scraps off of the floor of the meat/PROCESSING (BECAUSE CORN HULLS ARE NOT GOOD YOU WANT CORN NOT EVERYTHING BUT IT)factory....the sad thing is this is all in EVERYTONES food! NOT just our animals! I challenge you to search and seek out ingredient labels of all your foods/snacks for not just you but your animals and not just your gliders! I WILL POST SOME LINKS TO PAINT THE PICTURE MORE CLEAR FOR YOU!

www.naturalnews.com/012647_pet_food_dog.html

THIS IS SOMETHING I SEE BEING PROMOTED A LOT
lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/yhst-6175796731380/insectivorefare.pdf

I AM JUST DOING THIS SO PEOPLE TAKE THE INITIATIVE TO STOP IGNORING WHAT IS GOING ON...US AND OUR PETS ARE WORTH MORE SICK TO BIG PHARMACY CO INSURANCE HEALTH CARE ECT .

oh i forgot to add there is little to no standards for pet food....BEWARE

After much research and reading from one side of the WWW to the other, I have made the decision to NOT feed my babies the following:

Grapes
Broccoli
Caulliflower
Salt
Garlic (Any spice really... but I don't even cook with garlic around them)
Onions
Chocolate
Sugar (Aside from those naturally occurring in fruits and veggies)
Maraschino Cherries
Anything with Syrup

That is all I can think of off the top of my head, and I am sure there are people on here that WILL feed one or some of these things to their babies... but nearly everything on this list list has proved harmful to one animal or another and I refuse to take the chance with my babies who are so much smaller and more susceptible to food disturbances.

oh and i need to be specific here so no one goes out and feed corn the the glider....lol CORN NO GOOD FOR GLIDERS!!! I guess I am using horse grain as an example .....a horse should not call for grain except for extenuating circumstance (if fed good quality free choice hay 24/7/365 HOWEVER if you do need to grain a horse it is best to read your label!!! Anything that has to do with meal soy corn whatever or BY product IS THE CRAP OF THE CRAP! NOT SUFFICIENT enough as a staple or even healthy food! there are several diseases that come about from too rich and non nutritious....THIS APPLIES TO US and OUR ANUIMALS.

LOL AGAIN!!!!! CORN IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR GLIDER,lol