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First Time Owner Question...worried
First Time Owner Question...worried
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Nov 28 2015
03:04:03 PM
Hi there!
Last Sunday I purchased two new 8-10 week sugar gliders from an exotic pet store in my town. I'm a first time owner.
So far bonding seems to be going well. I'm taking it slow because we've only been together for a week, but they've improved every day, putting them in the bonding pouch is relatively easy, and I think they've started to recognize my scent and voice.
However, I've started to notice weird differences in the two of them. I've read that they can all be incredibly different, but some of the stuff I've read online has worried me a lot.
One of the babies has really been worrying me. He's been the more curious of the two since I got him, and has moved much more quickly and is hardly afraid of me at all anymore. However, the last two days or so i've noticed him being really twitchy and strange. I first noticed when he slept on top of the little fleece box they have rather than inside with his brother. Then he began clinging to the sides of the cage to sleep.
He ADORES applesauce as a treat and has even started to beg for it, but when he eats it (as well as his normal food and when he drinks too) he leans back as if he tasted something bitter or he's having trouble eating/swallowing it. He's VERY active and hasn't stopped eating or anything like that, but I have noticed he shakes a lot and looks really uncoordinated when he tries to move. He's still capable of moving and runs on his wheel all the time, it's just really weird behavior.
Like I said, I don't know if any of this is normal or something I'm causing, but I thought I'd ask.
The main issues I've noticed are:
weird behavior when eating (but no loss of appetite whatsoever)
Shaking/twitchiness.
Uncoordinated behavior, tripping/wobbling around.
I'm really worried and would appreciate any advice anyone can give.
Thanks!
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Nov 28 2015
05:12:25 PM
jdching Face Hugger 807 Posts
It sounds like he needs to see a vet.
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Nov 29 2015
03:01:45 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
There is a new case of the wiggles I strongly urge you to take a look at and see if your glider has the same behaviors..https://www.facebook.com/groups/1670806416499262/?notif_t=group_r2j_approved

this is a closed facebook group so you will have to request to join but there are video's of the newest known wiggles case

either way your glider needs to be seen by a vet it could also be calcium deficiency there is no way to guess what it is really because we can't see him your best bet is to look up the wiggles, calcium deficiency and get him to the vet pronto

Edited by - Leela on Nov 29 2015 03:04:59 PM
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Dec 02 2015
09:44:35 PM
MadTab Starting Member 6 Posts
I looked at the link and also tried to do what other research I could on wiggles. The motion that those babies make with their heads when they eat is very similar to the way my joey acts, but his behavior is nowhere near as severe as those. I'm wondering if there have been any less severe cases???
I took him into the vet clinic on Sunday evening, and sure enough when we arrived he was acting normally and being the social butterfly he always is. They were unable to notice any problems and to me, he seemed to have significantly improved for the next day and a half.
Then Monday afternoon, I placed them in their pouch when I got out of class, and was really surprised when he became squirmy and refused to settle down and sleep. He wanted OUT as soon as possible so I let him into my hand like he's been doing occasionally. The thing was, he didn't seem to want to stop there, and ran all around my body acting stressed and as if he was searching for something. When he's in his cage he does this as well, pacing and climbing and jumping and trying to squeeze through the bars. When I let him out again--it's like he's on some sort of mission he hasn't told me about. He's very hyperactive and while that's okay, I don't know what to do about this behavior or whether or not it's normal.
I started to watch him even more because I was worried and noticed that he refuses all food I offer him. Their food has been gone each morning, so I'd assumed he was eating, but it seems like the only thing I can get him to take is applesauce. He drinks a LOT of glideraid, but now I'm worried that his "anxiety" is due to hunger. I plan on taking him to the vet tomorrow if there is an available appointment, but really want some advice/ideas from somebody who owns them--has anyone seen this kind of behavior before???
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Dec 02 2015
09:49:00 PM
MadTab Starting Member 6 Posts
His shaking/twitching has not improved, and I'm bringing videos to show my vet of him favoring different body parts and shaking. I've considered calcium deficiency now more than wiggles, because it's not as constant and handicapping as those babies. But my other glider has shown no signs, and I use a calcium supplement sprinkled on their food that I've seen them eat in the past. Help!!
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Dec 02 2015
11:14:12 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
What are you feeding your glider each evening?

Are you using a dry food or one of the widely used nectar like glider staple recipes like HPW or BML?

Sprinkling the calicum on food is not the best way to make sure your glider gets the correct amount daily. It is likely you are giving way too much calcium by sprinkling it on food. Excessive calcium can be a problem as much as too little.

I have links on my web page to a number of well balanced glider staple recipes and feeding plans that will make sure your glider gets the protein, vitamins and calcium needed each day.

http://www.gliderkids-diet.com/Staple-Recipes.html

Look over the various feeding plans and choose one for your glider if you are not already feeding one of these diets. My GliderKids feeding plan is one of several options you may want to consider.
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Dec 03 2015
12:09:35 AM
MadTab Starting Member 6 Posts
Update: I'm watching him eat in his cage right now! At least I know he's not starving himself entirely.
Thank you Candy, I'm looking into those diets right now and am going to try to switch over to them as soon as possible! I've seen a lot of posts about them and haven't gotten the chance to actually make the change, but it sounds like it might be a big part of the problem.
If anyone has any advice or ideas on the hyperactivity/possible anxiety, I'd love to hear it! I added safe toys I found in these forums to their cage today and spend most of my day handling/being around them!
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Dec 08 2015
09:15:56 PM
Mslori Starting Member Visit Mslori's Photo Album 5 Posts
That sounds a lot like what Clyde is doing. I'm feeding him that L*** Suggie Soup with fresh/frozen fruits & vegies. I have also been sprinkling calcium/vitamins on his food. Do I need to do that with the Suggie Soup Diet? I've already lost one...both purchased from a place I've read VERY bad things about.
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Dec 09 2015
04:27:59 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
Mslori - you should only use the supplements called for in the LGRS Suggie Soup recipe. A protein source also needs to be fed each night with this feeding plan.

Here are the full instructions and suggestions for foods to be fed with it each night.:

http://files.meetup.com/768852/LGRSSuggieSoup.pdf
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