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Feb 09 2016
12:44:49 AM
Okay so Today thanks to my tax money i was able to get another Glider 2 or 3 my friend lost track of the time kinda, but I named her Misa, and she's a doll shes more shy and but still crawls and lets me pet her. Instead of the breeder who was gonna charge me 250$ for a male, My friend from work charged me 100$ so even after the new toys i still saved 100$ ^_^. her females Joeys already been checked by a vet and was in a lil colony of 8 or 9, my question is will Zadr be okay with her? After having Misa in Zadrs bonding pouch when i got her from my friend today so she could get used to his scent along with mine, Then i set up The and left his cage pouch and Felt bedding in the Cage for Misa, cage along with a new pouch and hanging pouch hammock thing. I have a piece of the fleece blanket i put in Zadrs old pouch, and put it in his new pouch along with his toys and another new hammock. As of right now I let them meet They've just been sniffing each other and running away then going back to each other I've heard some noises though one's like a clicking it sounds like crabbing but not mean the best way i can describe is is kinda like a sound a cricket or grass hopper would make kinda a chirp. Is that a good sign Neither are fixed I've decided I want to breed, My friends dad said it wasn't that hard, Theirs had bread twice and they really didn't half to do anything besides change the females diet a bit, and they didn't really half to raise the Joeys till they could be hand Trained when they were grown up enough to come out on their own, unless his wife did more of the work, but none were never rejected, "Was that normal or just luck?" one of the Glider sites said they could be bonded in a week or two if they really get along, how long should i wait before putting them in the same cage, "The cage i had Zadr in was kinda small, he's out grown it so I'm using it for Misa, Is there a way I can put her in the new cage I kind of feel bad, "It's smaller but according to the you tube Vet who i dumbly listened too he said smaller was okay for babies, so you could bond with them, easier. "Its big enough she has some space to jump and play around, and of course i let them out at night and if i put her in with Zadr I'd have all the pouches in there so they'd have their space if needed? Zadr's 6 months how old before he's able to breed already has his scent glands if that's a sign. I think Zadr likes her too, but she's still has her guard up a little? would their Relationship begin as friends since she's younger or is Zadr gonna try to umm... "well you know what her." I know it takes females 12 months to mature for kids so does that mean even if he tries she won't get pregnant till she's fully mature?d
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Feb 09 2016
11:13:15 AM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
Your post is a little difficult to follow but I will try to sort out your questions to be answered.

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i was able to get another Glider 2 or 3 my friend lost track of the time kinda,


I assume that you mean 2 or 3 MONTHS OOP.

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her females Joeys already been checked by a vet and was in a lil colony of 8 or 9, my question is will Zadr be okay with her?


Allowing gliders to breed in a colony can result in INBREEDING. If there are multiple intact males in the colony there is no way of knowing which male is the father. In a colony - male gliders will breed with their mother or sisters. The father may also breed with daughters. Your female may be the product of inbreeding and could have health issues that are not visible.

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As of right now I let them meet They've just been sniffing each other and running away then going back to each other I've heard some noises though one's like a clicking it sounds like crabbing but not mean the best way i can describe is is kinda like a sound a cricket or grass hopper would make kinda a chirp. Is that a good sign


Yes it is a good sign. Both gliders are young and both are probably happy to have another glider companion. Young gliders are very easy to introduce to each other. The fact that they did not fight when put together is good - but separating them may make them both depressed especially if you put them together and separate them often.

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Neither are fixed I've decided I want to breed, My friends dad said it wasn't that hard, Theirs had bread twice and they really didn't half to do anything besides change the females diet a bit, and they didn't really half to raise the Joeys till they could be hand Trained when they were grown up enough to come out on their own, unless his wife did more of the work, but none were never rejected, "Was that normal or just luck?" one of the Glider sites said they could be bonded in a week or two if they really get along,


Just so you understand - female gliders cannot be fixed. They have a complicated reproductive system and the surgery would be so invasive that it could be life threatening. Neutering Male gliders is safe and the best way to prevent breeding.

Your plans to breed these two gliders may be setting you and the gliders up for heart break. First - your female may already be the product of inbreeding which may cause problems with future joeys. If you do not have lineage on your male - you have no way to guarantee that he is not related to the female which could compound the problem. This pair of gliders are not well suited for successful breeding and the resulting joeys may have health issues that could cause them to be rejected.

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how long should i wait before putting them in the same cage,


If you are going to allow them to breed - they should not share a cage until your female is at least 10 to 11 months OOP to prevent her from becoming pregnant before her own growth and bone development is complete. Even occasional play time between the two gliders could result in breeding before she is full grown.

If you neuter your male - they can become cage mates immediately after the surgery.

Keeping them apart will be hard on both gliders. They know another glider is near by and they want to be together. You will also have to clean and maintain two cages for the next 8 months or so. There is also a chance that as they get older living alone in a cage, they will become territorial and it may be more difficult to introduce them later with out fighting - it probably will not be an issue but the possibility is still there.

If you neuter your male and introduce them right away both gliders and you will be happy. Then after a year or so of enjoying them as cherished pets - if YOU still want to experience breeding gliders you could purchase a pair of gliders with lineage to guarantee they are not related and allow that pair to breed.

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Feb 09 2016
11:55:06 AM
redeyes420 Joey Visit redeyes420's Photo Album 11 Posts
One more thing is there a way to stop Zadr from his urges like one of those water spry bottles if he tries anything?
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Feb 09 2016
05:46:58 PM
kiwi3435 Face Hugger Visit kiwi3435's Photo Album kiwi3435's Journal FL, USA 687 Posts
I strongly suggest you do not breed them. For all you know they are long lost siblings. The joeys of the two WILL have many health problems and issues if they are related.

There is no way to stop his breeding urges. The female is FAR too young for her to have joeys. Your male will breed with her if she is ready or not. She won't be able to grow correctly and neither will her joeys since they will be sucking all the needed nutrients from her body. If he mates with her, she will become pregnant even though she isn't a full year old.

Even if they aren't related, if the two mate now and the babies are born, she will reject the joeys as she is too young to understand the responsibility of being a mom. She may eat the joeys or the dad might. As Candy said, you are probably setting yourself up for heartbreak.

I cannot stop you but I just wanted to make sure you are clear on how much responsibility this is and the knowledge that has to be put into this.

Edited by - kiwi3435 on Feb 09 2016 05:50:20 PM
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Feb 09 2016
08:47:23 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
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is there a way to stop Zadr from his urges like one of those water spry bottles


A spray bottle would not stop him. You would need to stay awake and observe their behavior 24/7 for the full 2 to 3 days each month when the female is in heat. chances are they would be in the sleeping pouch and you would not even know it was happening.

The only way to prevent joeys is to neuter the male. Even after neutering he may mate with her when ever she is in heat - but shooting blanks so no joeys.

Males neutered young often do not even develop the urge to mate but since he is already fully mature he may still want to mate - especially after he has been housed with a female and had some actual experience mating.
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Feb 09 2016
09:37:54 PM
redeyes420 Joey Visit redeyes420's Photo Album 11 Posts
Thank you guys for the advice, u guys I'm gonna look into Nudering him. Ill make an appointment asap. It's still okay to let them play with eachother?
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Feb 10 2016
09:04:57 AM
kiwi3435 Face Hugger Visit kiwi3435's Photo Album kiwi3435's Journal FL, USA 687 Posts
I wouldn't risk it. just wait until he is neutered to let them live together. it's not a good idea to let them play together because if they mate, you have a problem on your hands.
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