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kyro298 Glider Sprinkles      CO, USA
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SanicRealm Joey 32 Posts Thank you for helping you guys! That's what I thought though, cops usually don't care unless you wave it in their face or something. SanicRealm Joey 32 Posts That's why I freaked out. I've been researching for months and already bought some stuff for them and then I saw that post and my heart sunk... I've emailed a couple of people about this and hope to hear back from them soon. SanicRealm Joey 32 Posts I agree. One post on glider central (that was older) said it was legal in ALL of Texas, I guess laws were changed... I wish there was a website where I could actually SEE it. I don't know what to believe. SanicRealm Joey 32 Posts I'm just wondering why I can't find any other info about this, that's all. I understand it's to protect the gliders.
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles CO, USA 15262 Posts I've been searching for 45 mins. now and can't find a thing. I know SanicRealm (who I'm trying to specifically get answers for since she has a right to know) is in Dallas County, which covers: Beach Springs Carrolton Cedar Hill Cockrell Hill Combine Coppell Dallas DeSoto Duncanville Farmer's Branch Garland Grand Prairie Glenn Heights Highland Park Hutchins Irving Lancaster Mesquite Richardson Rowlett Sachse Seagoville Sunnyvale University Park Wilmer Isn't Trader's Village in Dallas or nearby? Pocket Pets of Dallas? Is the question maybe about being able to own them as opposed to sell them? I'd really like clarification...even simply just to have it and to add to the article in the Gliderpedia about whether or not they're legal. SanicRealm Joey 32 Posts Thanks Doug! I'll look more into when I get back from eating. And thank you Kylah, I think we have the right to argue until actual proof is found :) Yonx Joey OH, USA 33 Posts I found one cite where it should say, and the document can't be shown! Just in case it is just my computer being stupid here is the link: Error, missing URL.
l joeymum Face Hugger USA 454 Posts This is what I found: •Dallas – It is unlawful to possess or harbor a prohibited animal within city limits. Prohibited animals include poisonous reptiles, ostriches, rheas, all non-domesticated cats, wolves, bears, all primates, and deer, bison, camels, and antelope. From the website: www.bornfreeusa.org/b4a2_exotic_animals_ords.php
Dunno if this helps anyone? valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes USA 3479 Posts I can open those documents. It says that Domestic animals are accepted in Dallas, and that Domestic animal is defined: (15) DOMESTIC ANIMAL means: (A) livestock; (B) a dog; (C) a cat; (D) a ferret; (E) any bird, other than one in the Falconiforms or Strigiforms Order, that is commonly kept as a human's companion; (F) any "pocket pet," such as a mouse, hamster, gerbil, guinea pig, or rabbit, that is commonly kept as a human's companion; (G) any fish, such as a goldfish or tropical fish, that is commonly kept as a human's companion; and (H) any non-venomous and non- constrictor reptile or amphibian that is commonly kept as a human's companion. So - Apparently sugar gliders would be legal? Still reading.... valkyriemome Goofy Gorillatoes USA 3479 Posts This is what is listed as Prohibited: (28) PROHIBITED ANIMAL means: (A) a "dangerous wild animal" as that term is defined in Section 822.101 of the Texas Health and Safety Code, as amended; (B) a margay, badger, wolf, dingo, elephant, hippopotamus, rhinoceros, non-human primate (other than a spider monkey or capuchin), crocodile, alligator, caiman, gavial, venomous amphibian or reptile, racer, boa (other than a red-tail boa), water snake, python (other than a ball python), hawk, eagle, vulture, and owl; and (C) any hybrid of an animal listed in Paragraph (A) or (B) of this subsection (other than a dog-wolf hybrid). joeymum Face Hugger USA 454 Posts (28) PROHIBITED ANIMAL means: (A) a "dangerous wild animal" as that term is defined in Section 822.101 of the Texas Health and Safety Code, as amended; (B) a margay, badger, wolf, dingo, elephant, hippopotamus, rhinoceros, non-human primate (other than a spider monkey or capuchin), crocodile, alligator, caiman, gavial, venomous amphibian or reptile, racer, boa (other than a red-tail boa), water snake, python (other than a ball python), hawk, eagle, vulture, and owl; and (C) any hybrid of an animal listed in Paragraph (A) or (B) of this subsection (other than a dog-wolf hybrid). Error, missing URL.
1 kyro298 Glider Sprinkles CO, USA 15262 Posts kazko Little Bunny FooFoo  TX, USA 6747 Posts Typically around the country you will have the federal, state, county and then the city authorities. Some animal regulations are at the federal level such as importation of CITES animals and banned invasive species and whatnot. Most relevant animal legislation is at the state level, and then many progressive suburban and larger cities have additional specific animal laws but often defer the rest to the state laws. I am not sure I have ever seen anything at the county level although they may have large animals on the books for obvious reasons. As far as Texas, it is one of the states that has very few animal prohibitions on the books. This is why it is a hub for importation and breeding, milling and transportation. Most 'bedroom' communities do not allow exotic animals. Some dont have any laws. Most laws are about the registration (income stream) and welfare of cats and dogs as common pets. You rarely see any specific items pertaining to exotics, so it is hard to come to a determination about sugar gliders. Most folks who might be considered 'offenders' will live out on the boonies anyway where there is no animal control laws or enforcing. The only applicable entity in these cases might well be the state fish/game folks who might be lucky to have 6 employees... I know that IRVING, TX is an area that allows exotics keeping and breeding. This also happens to be where the big airport is. Most other areas around do not even allow large birds for the most part. But what is on the books is most always a different thing than what is actively enforced. In the end, the city police do not care about your animals unless you are happened upon and they see some nasty flagrant possible violations and then call the animal control folks to come out and police those issues. A few sugar gliders wont raise anybody's notice. The only two states that I am aware of that may really care about sugar gliders are California and Hawaii. There they are invasive species. There they have specific laws and concern about people having these kinds of animals in the state. They even 'officially' check at state ports. I had to drive my possum through California for some nasty long hours to get it back to Texas and I basically lied twice about it. I also got stopped in Texas on that trip at an inspection point which was very new to me but they were only looking for illegal people and terrorists, not imported animals or vegetables... So anyway, it is illegal to speed, yet everybody does it, few get caught. It is illegal to waste water, yet most folks dont care. The laws are to protect the general well being and everyone's rights. Cities that have laws against sugar gliders dont want the animals let loose into your neighbors trees. They also dont want the mass amounts of unwanted fodder ending up in their shelters where they could never have the ability to manage them. So they are banned. To me it comes down to responsibility. If you get an animal, take care of it, protect it from the world, and dont be stupid. Animals arent meant to be flaunted. Animals arent meant to be taken outside on leashes to demonstrate how they can fly. Animals arent meant to be hoarded and kept in poor circumstances. Animals arent meant to be kept for 6 months and then thrown away. If you are smart about it and take care of your critters, the laws pretty much wont ever be applied. Now if you are keeping a rooster against the ordinance, and a neighbor complains about it, and the animal control comes over and invades your house (which they have all rights to do so on the books), you will not only lose your rooster, but you will probably lose your sugar gliders, your unregistered dogs and cats and whatever else you are hoarding as the idiot that you apparently are. Dont be stupid. If you are going to abuse the law, do it lightly and smartly. You wont be finding any mill breeders within boundaries that care about the activity, so which city has what laws is near most moot. And animal stores often sell gliders where they are not legal and the city animal control most likely doesnt care. These days the almighty tax dollar trumps most things. Megs06 BANNED_ACCOUNT USA 1 Posts I wanted to move there with my rhino. Something tells me they wouldn't like that too much.
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