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  |  sugar-mommy2
Glider
 IN, USA
239 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 12:32:32 PM    |
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I need some advice on intros. I introduced one of my gliders,
Grace to my new girl, Willow. The first meeting went okay Willow did alot of crabbing and lunging at first. The second time was better, now everytime I put them in the bath tub Grace will not stay in there. I do not know what to do with her. How can they get use to one another if Grace keeps running? Today I took all the toys out of the tent and put them both in there(I use the same tent with both cages) with me. They would not even get close to each other and Grace kept trying to get down my shirt. So now I do not know what to do. I ordered Willow a new cage because this intro process is taking so long and her cage is really too small. When I get the new cage should I put them both in it for awhile since it will not smell like either one of them? I of course will be right there to seperate them if they fight. I just do not know what to do.
Any help would be appreciated.
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 | Paislee
Joey
 NL, CA
64 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 12:58:20 PM  |
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What I did with my gliders when I had to introduce a rescue to the family was swap sleeping pouches for a week or so, so they would all get used to each others scent. Then after that I moved my rescue's cage in with the family so they could see each other. That was a little sketchy at first as there was a lot of vocalization from my other male that didn't sound so friendly, (both males are neutered) but my other two, the girls, took interest to him and would speak to him. It's a long process but it was worth it in the end because now they are all a happy family. Just have patience and don't force it, let them get used to each others presence and they may warm up to each other. I also used to take the rescue and one of the girls in a bonding pouch in the daytime so they would sleep together, they were both so sleepy that they didn't really realize that they weren't family, and would cuddle together. They were always with me though in case one realized the other was strange and an argument broke out. It's a few ideas, hope it helps, just keep them in neutral territory and be patient like I said. All the best.
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| sugar-mommy2
Glider
IN, USA
239 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 02:03:08 PM |
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After the 30 quarantine I did move their cages beside each other and did the switching of pouches and toys. This was about 3 maybe 4 weeks ago. Grace the one I am starting intros with did not care if Willow was in the cage beside her or not. Ava does seem to be the more agressive one, that is why I started with Grace. I will try the bonding pouch and see how that goes.
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| fadedrainbows
Super Glider
  USA
741 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 02:45:01 PM |
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Putting them both in a bonding pouch seems dangerous to me. When I was doing intro a few weeks ago, the female just went right into the male's pouch. They started fighting and it was really difficult for me to get them apart. Since then I have made sure the pouches are not near them when I'm trying to introduce. The same fear would present itself in allowing them to be introduced in a cage. Unless it has very large doors, it may be very difficult to get them apart once they're rolling around in the cage.
Other than expressing my opinions and fears about that, I really don't have much advice. My intros have failed so far. Hopefully someone else will be along soon with some more advice for you.
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| suggiemom02
Super Glider
KY, USA
589 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 03:08:55 PM |
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I agree with amanda that Putting them in a bonding pouch could be dangerous. Obviously right now they arent all very peachy about grace's Presence. Some intros are very quick, and some take more time. Yours might just be one that will take more time than usual. In My opinion i would try to get Ava and Grace in a tent or room together.Watch them closely and let them get used to each other better. If they fight seperate them of course, and if they dont fight i would give them a treat of some sort or something.. if the methods everyone suggests dont work and over time nothing works, mabye it wasnt ment to be. (I have one right now so i have not had to do intros but this is my view of things) Hope i helped
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| Rita
Cuddle Bear
MO, USA
11151 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 04:43:56 PM |
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Have you tried swapping cages? Dont change anything in either cage as you want all the glider scent to remain the same.
Introductions seem to either go very smoothly and they love each other immediately - or it can take some time and a lot of patience.
Be certain to introduce them face to face in a neutral area like the bathtub. You want to find a place that has NO glider scent on it so no one can claim territory.
Dont stress them. If they dont get along, dont try any face to face for a couple of days. Keep their cages side by side but far enough away they cant reach each other. Keep swapping pouches, toys and cages. Dont give up right away. It took 3 months to integrate Benji in with the girls. Tilly and Weasel loved him right away, so Benji got play and sleep time with them. Tosca was not so sure she wanted to be friends. She finally accepted the fact he wasnt going away and allowed him in. But she acted depressed and scared. I watched her for a few weeks and there was no fighting so I knew everyone was safe. One day, I checked on them and Benji and Tosca were snuggled in one pouch sleeping and Tilly and Weasel were in the other. Finally - Success!!!
Remember there is no guarantee two gliders will ever like each other and get along. This doesnt happen often, but when we get new gliders we have to be prepared to always have two cages.
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| sugar-mommy2
Glider
IN, USA
239 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 10:31:33 PM |
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Rita, I have not switched cages because I am afraid if I put Willow in Ava and Graces' cage I will not be able to get her out. Their cage is much bigger than hers. In the tent Willow will climb all over me but I can not touch her on my own. If I try to touch her she bites really hard, hard enough to make my fingers bleed. Also I am afraid that if I have to chase her around in the cage that will hurt my bonding with her.
I know there is no guarantee that they will get along and I am more that willing to be patience with them. I feel with time Willow and Grace would be fine if Grace would stop jumping out of the bathtub. lol
Thanks everyone for your advice and I will just keep trying.
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| suppressedtearz
Super Glider
USA
922 Posts
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Jul 31 2010 : 11:29:24 PM |
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If you switch cages what would need to get her back out for? If you want to get her out for bonding then you just take her out pouch and all before she wakes up.
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