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Message:
 Subject: Re: Herpeton Bonding
 Posted by Clara on May 02, 1998 at 04:14:46:
 
In Reply to: Re: Herpeton Bonding  posted by Tara on May 01, 1998 at 14:29:05: 
I knew this already, it is often brought up in the ISGA talk list, but thanks for bringing it to other people's attention.  I do give mine fruits, but it only consists of maybe 5% of their diet. It's kind of weird, but mine won't really eat fruits, they don't like them.  Fruits aren't a part of their natural diet and make their urine too acidic.  I don't give them nuts as they are much too fattening. I feed my gliders Zoofare, which an insectivore diet, in addition to Brisky's.  They also get some vegetables and gut-packed crickets.  I am glad you found my page informative, thanks. : Clara, : I read your page on feeding of gliders and thought I would share : with you what I have learned from my vet.  I recently took my
 : boy in because he had lost a patch of hair from the back of his head.
 : She told me that it was probably stress related or nutrition related.
 : I told her that I fed him fruits and veggies and a little chicken each night.
 : I was also giving him seeds as treats, plus giving him rep cal each week as
 : a supplement.  She told me of a colleague who studied in Australia for a year,
 : and found that the gliders diet in the wild is more of that if an insectivore/carnivore.
 : This is from the article I was given: "the natural diet includes the "sugary sap or gum" of
 : the eucalyptus.  the name 'sugar' doesn't relate to 'sugar as in fruit' although they may like those foods.
 : It also does not rely on nuts, grains, or seeds despite the books published by breeders
 : and much info on the net.  In the wild, foliage is not a major food item.  The insects are high
 : in protein, and plant exudate is high in sugar content...Honey and fruit may be partial substitutes for (excess sugar)
 : in captivity."
 : I was recommended a variation of the Chicago Zoological Park diet that includes foods appropriate
 : for insectivores/carnivores of at least 50% especially if active breeders, along with fruit sugar source.
 : So, I give him some fruit (less than before, same with veggies), a serving of Leadbeaters mix, and mealworms.
 : Since I changed the diet, which was a little over a week ago,
 : his hair has started coming back, his stool is not as loose, his cage doesn't smell as bad, and he's more active.
 : As for the stress part, I'm looking for a friend for him, but haven't found one yet.
 : I'm not writing this to say that you are wrong in your feeding suggestions/guidelines.  So, please don't be
 : offended by me!  I love my boy (Yoda), and just want to get to know others with gliders
 : so we can exchange information and maybe clear stuff up that may/may not be wrong out there on the web.
 : I have perused your page before and found it informative.  The stuff that I quoted above was not exactly quoted,
 : but a little paraphrased for space/ and copywrite paranoia (that's from being a college student!).
 : I just wanted to share what I have learned and hope I didn't offend you or anyone else reading this!
 : Tara
 
 
 
 
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