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Posted by: Debbie, delliott@tulane.edu
Subject: Sean: Eucalyptus tree
When: 3:33 PM, 23 Dec 2000
IP: 216.227.111.97
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That is very cool that you got a eucalyptus tree. I was thinking of doing the same thing. I researched the different types (I think there three main ones, all gum trees). But have not had time to find out which one was best for the gliders. Where did you get it from?



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Posted by: Debbie, delliott@tulane.edu
Subject: Pulling up
When: 10:01 PM, 26 Dec 2000
IP: 216.227.111.97

Hey, I'm very interested in getting a eucalyptus. Has anyone besides Sean done this? Would be so great to give them something so close to their native flora...
Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions.



Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: none
When: 10:27 PM, 26 Dec 2000
IP: 209.117.80.94

Debbie, agreed, if you do find anything out would you let me know?



Posted by: Debbie, delliott@tulane.edu
Subject: Of course!
When: 12:42 AM, 27 Dec 2000
IP: 216.227.111.97

I'm hoping this thread will stay alive awhile, but this may be a new thing that not too many people can have access to. I'm hoping that since I live in a southern state that might help. I plan on contacting a nursery this week. I'll let you know by e-mail, if you like as well.



Posted by: Angela, angelaisme@home.com
Subject: need help
When: 8:34 AM, 27 Dec 2000
IP: 205.188.198.39

i havent gotten a sugar glider yet, im going to get one but im learning all about them & getting cage & stuff set up first. I think eucalyptus would be good, do you mean outside cage or inside? Debbie- where is the South do you live? I live in Texas. Please email me any info you have an eucalyptus or sugar gliders in general. Thanks!-Angela



Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: none
When: 12:37 PM, 27 Dec 2000
IP: 209.117.80.21

O yes please feel free to em me with any info, if I find out something myself I will send you the info



Posted by: Gl!dermommy, Julbabe64@aol.com
Subject: none
When: 5:51 PM, 27 Dec 2000
IP: 152.163.213.81

Does anyone know if you can use camphor limbs in a glider cage? I have a bunch of camphor bushes in my yard and I think it is alot like the eucalyptus, but I am not sure...if anyone knows e-mail me please!



Posted by: Debbie, delliott@tulane.edu
Subject: You bet
When: 10:21 PM, 27 Dec 2000
IP: 216.227.111.97

I will surely e-mail you all when I get the low down on the eucalyptus. First I am going to go back and e-mail Sean, who has one... I don't think he checks the posts often.



Posted by: Pockets, tinytracks@cac.net
Subject: Australian eucalyptus
When: 10:17 AM, 30 Dec 2000
IP: 216.90.50.137

Debbie
If you do a search on the Glider Central board
you will find some good info on eucalyptus! wink
I am growing several different Australian plants just for my "Little People".
A permit is required to import seeds into the USA - (USDA -APHIS PPQ)
I also am a member of two Australian Plant Society's.
If I can help email - tinytracks@cac.net



Posted by: Heather, hwebb1106@aol.com
Subject: none
When: 11:30 AM, 30 Dec 2000
IP: 64.12.102.54

I have a eucalyptus that I cut branches from and put in my gliders cage. She seems to like it. But the branches I have are not very thick so she has some trouble climbing on them. She seems to like the branches better after a week or so when they are a little dried out. It is a silver dollar eucalyptus. I live in Florida and got it from a nearby nursery. Every nursery in the area has them. I hope this helps some.



Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: none
When: 12:12 PM, 30 Dec 2000
IP: 209.117.80.32

Thank you Pockets & Heather smile
Kimi



Posted by: Debbie, delliott@tulane.edu
Subject: none
When: 1:52 PM, 30 Dec 2000
IP: 216.227.111.97

Here are the most pertinent threads from my search, for those interested:
<a href=http://www.sugarglider.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000199.html>http://www.sugarglider.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000199.html</a>, <a href=http://www.sugarglider.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000489.html>http://www.sugarglider.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000489.html</a>, and <a href=http://www.sugarglider.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000276.html>http://www.sugarglider.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000276.html</a>

Thanks Pockets! smile



Posted by: Chunker
Subject: none
When: 3:48 PM, 30 Dec 2000
IP: 24.129.186.237

I'm interested in getting one of these for my guys. Suppose they had pesticides on them and used fertilizer. What would you do? Hose and rinse the tree off for the pesticides, but fertilizer? Switch the soil or something?



Posted by: Pockets, tinytracks@cac.net
Subject: none
When: 4:34 PM, 30 Dec 2000
IP: 209.44.14.219

Chunker
I would wait at least 2 months before offering them to my "Little People"



Posted by: Angela, angelaisme@home.com
Subject: none
When: 9:12 PM, 01 Jan 2001
IP: 24.4.254.161

I got this from a guy that sells eucalyptus trees, hope this helps! -Angela

I know that sugar gliders do eat some Eucalyptus species, I'm not sure about cinerea. Corymbia citriodora and Corymbia eximia are two that are often used. Since I am not an expert on sugar gliders, I can't say for sure exactly what they eat.

We do not use pesticides on our Eucalyptus - the only thing we use, on occasion, is Dawn dish detergent sprayed at a rate of 2 tablespoons per gallon of water. This is used to control white fly, aphids and any soft bodied insects. Basically, it's just plain old soap water. I have not sprayed anything for over three months, a simple rinse with the hose on the foliage would take care of any residual left on the leaves. My records show that the Corymbia species has never been sprayed as they generally don't get the soft body insect problems due to the oil content in the leaves.

As to fertilizers, we use a pelleted type, that is only activated when the temperature is above 70 degrees F and this is mixed in with the growing media. We never spray the foliage with any fertilizers.

If you live in a phytosanitary state, we must do a soil drench for Japanese Beetle as required by Federal Government regulations before we can ship plants to you. Again, this is a drench of the soil, not the bark, stems, leaves, etc. It is not intended as a systemic insecticide, meaning, it does not absorb into the plant.

Somewhere I recall that E. cinerea was a food source for gliders, just can't put my fingers on the reference at the moment. I know there are several sites posted on the web that give better information on this than I can.

Hope this has answered your questions.

Thanks

Mike Gillespie
Windmill Outback Nursery
<a href=http://www.windmilloutbacknursery.com>http://www.windmilloutbacknursery.com</a>
windmill@firstva.com




Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: none
When: 10:50 PM, 01 Jan 2001
IP: 209.117.80.77

Pockets & Debbie, Thank you so much for all the info! Owe ya one wink
Kimi



Posted by: Debbie, delliott@tulane.edu
Subject: Very good try, but...
When: 12:58 AM, 02 Jan 2001
IP: 216.227.111.97

According to my notes when I read the above posts (have not gone elsewhere yet) the species we are looking for is the E. radiata, viminalis, fastigata, obliqua, ovata, cypellocarpa, and bridgesiana. Also Corymbia gummifera and C. polycarpa (for the flowers). Is the "silver dollar" eucalyptus that some people are swapping out for these E. cinerea?

Fantastic explanation of the pesticide / fertilizer question. I'm sure it varies from place to place but it is reassuring that the above methods are in use.

Thanks so much Angela!



Posted by: Pockets, tinytracks@cac.net
Subject: none
When: 4:19 AM, 02 Jan 2001
IP: 209.44.14.184

I have ordered a few plants from "Windmill
Outback Nursery", Mike has the largest eucalypt
selection that I have ever seen in the U.S.A.

Debbie - yes, "Eucalyptus cinera" is called (Argyle Apple or Silver Dollar).
In my research I have NEVER seen
(Eucalyptus cinera) being utilized in any way by sugar glider's, NOT for foraging, habitat, nesting, or any other use.
The koala uses "eucalyptus cinera" as does the florist industry. smile



Posted by: Pockets, tinytracks@cac.net
Subject: none
When: 4:33 AM, 02 Jan 2001
IP: 209.44.14.184

Debbie
"Eucalyptus polycarpa" & "Eucalyptus gummifera"
are used by sugar glider's for the saps as well as for their flowers raspberry



Posted by: Pockets, tinytracks@cac.net
Subject: none
When: 8:20 PM, 02 Jan 2001
IP: 209.44.14.197

Here is a very good site on Cold Hardy Eucalyptus's (have fun) wink
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com.wa/margate>http://www.angelfire.com.wa/margate</a>



Posted by: Pockets, tinytracks@cac.net
Subject: none
When: 8:22 PM, 02 Jan 2001
IP: 209.44.14.197

Sorry guys!
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/wa/margate>http://www.angelfire.com/wa/margate</a>