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Posted by: Kelvin, nivlek33@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Bonding OF JOey!!!
When: 11:02 PM, 13 Jan 2001
IP: 202.156.0.2
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HI Everyone!! My first newborn baby joey is borned just last week!! Since the first day, I have been handling it for short moments. But can anyone tell me how come it's so afraid and so scared whenever I handle it?? From macpherson's book, she said that joeys are not afraid of humans but mine seems to be diFFERent!!!! And I hand feed crickets to my pair of adults everynight and this is my method of bonding with them. Coz when I bought them they are already adults and they bite at first. But after I tried using this method of handfeeding crickets, they don't bite and somemore lick and sit on my palm!! I dunno whether is this the right way of bonding with them??? But after they finish their crickets, they will go back to their nest immediately. During the moment when they are eating the crickets on my hands, it's one of the best moments but after they finished the crickets, they just go back to the nest immediately which is kind of saddening.



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Posted by: Jen
Subject: bonding
When: 8:03 AM, 14 Jan 2001
IP: 216.227.111.97

I cannot help you for bonding with the joey as I have no experience with them, but for the parents, do you take them out, pouch and all, during the day while they sleep? This will get them (and maybe the joey, too, but I'm not sure about that) used to your scent and is excellent bonding time. Also, if you don't bond with the joe while it's not an adult yet, you can still try my suggestion and your cricket feeding method to try and achieve a bond then. Still try to get the baby used to you now, though. I am not sure if this next suggestion is even an issue, so don't take my word for it, but maybe the joey thinks you smell weird, like with the soap on your hands from when you wash them or the detergent on your clothes. I don't know if this is true for the joey, but that's what happened to us with our adult male, so now we use an old robe that already smells like him. Sorry if this last information is wrong, it's the best I can do. Also I have read that joeys somewhat imitate their parent's behavior, so even if it seems like it is doing no good, keep handling the joey. It just might take more time to bond with this joey. Just as a bit of side advice, always wash your hands well with lots of rinsing after the soap when you are going to handle the joey so that the parents don't think that the baby smells different.



Posted by: KarenE, KarenElfrank@aol.com
Subject: You'd Be Scared Too, lol
When: 9:14 AM, 14 Jan 2001
IP: 152.163.197.73

Just imagine something about 1000X larger than you sticking its hand through your bedroom window to pick you up, talk to you in a voice that must sound deafening and stick its mouth right on your head ........ SOMEONE HELP ME.
I start by gently stroking the joey with just one finger while it is with the mother. This way the baby will see and feel that mom isn't afraid of me and will give it a chance to get used to my scent.
It can be a scarry place for any baby, so just be patient and remember that mom is this joey's security. Usually after a week or so, the joeys I have had will crawl into my hand from mom's back.
Good luck and keep us posted.