 | Posted by: | dave, grn_yoshi@hotmail.com | | Subject: | chatroom | | When: | 10:18 AM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 209.119.6.90 |
Ok this is for Eric,
I would just like to apologize for everyones behavior last night in the chatroom. I know we got out of hand and once again I apologize.
Dave
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| Posted by: | Emma, BAPann@hotmail.com | | Subject: | Please!!!! | | When: | 2:14 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 199.120.118.160 |
Every night that I go On the people are talking nasty. try to put more people on watch!!!!!!! 
| Posted by: | kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | chill out | | When: | 2:26 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 206.96.93.45 |
well ya know what emma if we bother you so much then why do you go there every night, we do a lot of good for the gliders, and we work hard to help in any way we can, and yes sometimes we get a group of us that all know each other and we have some fun but never once has it hurt a glider or a glider owner, at least if it has we have never been told so.
| Posted by: | Savvy | | Subject: | chat | | When: | 4:33 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 208.130.245.151 |
You are right, Emma, and you do need to be treated with respect as everyone does. The people who need to talk nasty must do so because of their own insecurities. You are showin more maturity than they are, so don't let them make you feel bad in any way. If I were you, I'd go to the chat room as often as you like (that is your right) and ask whatever questions you need to (that is what the chat room is supposed to be for.)   
| Posted by: | dave, grn_yoshi@hotmail.com | | Subject: | savvy | | When: | 2:36 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 209.119.5.213 |
We do a very good job of running that room.
I dont really appreciate being judged either by someone that doesnt know me in the least. We help a lot of people each day. Any time we do get out of hand a little is late at night, a time when no one under age should be on anyways.
| Posted by: | kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | LOL | | When: | 2:38 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 206.96.93.45 |
Yes your right that is what the glider chat is for but when nobody is asking questions what is the harm in us having a little fun while waiting to help someone? Everyone is welcome in the chat we all know that but if you are not happy there then why would you want to be there, seems to me it cant be that bad if you go every night.
| Posted by: | Savvy | | Subject: | chat | | When: | 4:10 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 208.130.245.167 |
LOL....Since Eric owns the chat room, it IS HIS right to make the judgement calls as HE sees fit. What more can I say?????? It is simply HIS call. (No, I don't know him either!)
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | please.... | | When: | 7:27 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 216.248.35.197 |
sounds like you may have one that had been silenced due to th antics, that was interfering with info. Emma, I am surprised, as you yourself have recieved help EVERYTIME you have gone into that room asking for it. Judge us, go ahead, My money is on that a room set up for under 18 may be the best thing to do, cause neither of you was there last night when it was shut down. And when it was shut down the people involved had already moved to the 18+ room. A room Eric himself had made for the adults.
| Posted by: | Summer | | Subject: | help for gliders | | When: | 7:47 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 152.163.204.184 |
All I know is, I hope a glider doesn't have to die because help could not be given out because of points trying to be made. I think everyone has gotten the point by now and gliders should not have to suffer because of someone's power trip. I think everyone has been guilty of one time or another not talking strictly about gliders, but c'mon...if you're gonna shut it down for what happened last night, what about other nights when there was endless bickering going on???? To me, that is more hurtful to what the chat is supposed to be set up for than this. But after all, this is just my opinion.
| Posted by: | kitara, fuzzybabies@juno.com | | Subject: | what color is your nose.. | | When: | 5:59 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 206.96.93.36 |
For those of us who were actually there last night we know exactly what happened and why the chat is dowm...we are not perfect and we dont claim to be but we also wont take the wrap for more than what we deserve, this nose doesnt go up anyones ass!
| Posted by: | Bourbon | | Subject: | Well Mine sure ain't Brown | | When: | 6:04 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 216.248.35.197 |
it definitly didn't warrant the chat being taken down, that's for sure..
| Posted by: | Summer | | Subject: | nose coloring(Savvy) | | When: | 6:13 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 152.163.204.184 |
For someone who claims they don't know Eric, you sure are spending a heck of alot of time, wasted time, denying that you know him. What's in it for you????? Yeah, it's his chat room, but there are alot of veteran glider owners that spend alot of their free time in there to help those of us who are new to glider ownership. And their advice has saved many a glider. And put many glider owner's minds at ease. It's my opinion that they have a vested interest in the chat room. I've seen many times when there have been people that have come in there just looking to try and start trouble and the people you are complaining about are the first to try and put a stop to it. There have been kids that come in and try to disrupt the chat and those same people have tried to control that too. And those very same people would help you in a split second without even thinking about it, if you were to need their help with your glider. And you would be very thankful that they were there to help you, but it's so easy to place judgement on them now that they are being made examples of. But who will you turn to now??? They made a mistake, they are human, and they made a mistake, one that I am sure I am guilty of making too. Does that mean the whole glider community should suffer for it???? I think not. Stop trying to score points with Eric.... You're not scoring them with anybody else.. But once again, this is just my opinion..
| Posted by: | yerushalayim | | Subject: | I wasn't there last night but. | | When: | 8:14 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 216.80.221.18 |
I wasn't there last night, but I have been in almost everynight since I found out about the chat room. There has been times when it got a little bit to much with some conversations but if they bothered me I would ignore it til someone came in and needed help. Then when someone needed help everyone would stop and all fingers would be typing to the person who needed it. I never saw anyone get ignored when help was needed.
Anyway, I just don't think that people and especially their gliders who need help faster then posting on the board can give them have to suffer because of something that happened last night.
I have no idea how much any of this will help. I just thought I would give my two cents on the whole matter.
Yerushalayim
| Posted by: | Summer | | Subject: | yerush | | When: | 8:20 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 152.163.204.184 |
You said exactly what the rest of us are feeling. Thanks for the post, on my behalf anyway.
| Posted by: | Just a nobody | | Subject: | O my god! | | When: | 6:43 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 208.130.245.68 |
What in tarnation is going on??? Why is everyone up in arms? Why doesn't everyone take his/her complaint directly to Eric? Even those of you who claim not to have brown noses (how I don't know) because your noses are stuck so high up in the air should go directly to the source. I respecfully bow out of all of this.
| Posted by: | Summer | | Subject: | O my god! | | When: | 10:07 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 152.163.204.184 |
If you truly respectfully bow out, then you wouldn't have posted a response to begin with. I, personally, am not trying to score any points with anybody. Maybe this shouldn't be the way that people are voicing their opinions against the chat room being shut down, maybe it should have all been handled by privately e-mailing Eric with the opinins being voiced. And for all I know, he may very well be in the process of sorting through floods of e-mails that have been sent to him voicing what is being said here on the board. But, I believe that there are alot of good people here that are having to forego the use of the chat room because of a mistake that could have been handled in an entirely different way. I believe that we all have the health and welfare of the gliders first above anything else. And with the chat room being closed down, it is the gliders that potentially suffer. That is my concern. I enjoy going in the chat room. I'm not in it near as much as some people are, but it is nice for me to know that those people are there, if I need them, God forbid....Because we all know that it is the veteran glider owners who at times are the ones educating some of the veterinarians and not the other way around. And I take comfort in knowing that they are there as a sounding board if I have a question that needs answered in a way that only the chat room can provide, not the message board. It is a much faster and efficient way of transferring information at times when "time" is not a luxury to fall back on. It is my hope that the chat room will be re-opened. I believe we all have one thing in common: sugar gliders.......
| Posted by: | Sheila, kwillson5@home.com | | Subject: | Darn, I missed something | | When: | 8:07 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 65.3.3.164 |
I usually try to stop by about three times a week to the chat room. Anyone who wants to email me to let me know what I missed feel free.
| Posted by: | Mad Max | | Subject: | We are all on the same page.. | | When: | 9:22 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 12.75.96.27 |
OK, I just read everyone's bit on the cat...oops, I mean chatroom. Yikes!! There is nothing wrong with talking, flirting, whatever you want to call it, but I am also reading from people is favoritism. I do not know who runs the chatroom as far as a moderator, but they need to be quick on kicking out smart alecs (if you catch my drift). I was on one night when someone had said they just got bit by their glider and threw it against the wall. They wanted to know if they should try to pick it up or let it lay there. The Moderator should have kicked them off then. It was quite obvious that this person was playing a sick joke. And this is backed up by the fact that this person deferred from telling us that this wasn't a joke. People in the chatroom jumped all over this person and got themselves kicked out for using explitives (for those that are ignorant...they cussed/cursed at this person). I guess this goes to show that common sense is indeed lacking in the world as we know it. It is sad. AND by the context of some of these comments... some of these people need to grow up. I am not sure what Emma means by nasty comments (cussing, freudian verbage,....) but perhaps the next time she comments on it, she needs to be specific. Kitara, I know you are frustrated, but to say you won't put your nose up anyone's butt, PLEASE. Maybe you should evaluate yourself and see if your nose is stuck up your own derriere. You can get mad by this comment, but I only said it based on your comment. Use some emotional intelligence..you will get more respect and go alot farther in life.
| Posted by: | Kimi, norby@greenepa.net | | Subject: | WHAT THE????? | | When: | 11:27 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 209.117.80.82 |
Does anyone here understand the term " Beating a dead horse"? Im willin to get on everyones bad side and say LIGHTEN UP! Dunno what happened but while yer sittin their bein so quick to protest your humanity (ie. We are only human ) thinkin maybe someone should remember that EVERYONE here is "only humane" and if, in fact your are, maybe these things said to Eric ...not out here in public for everyone to read.....just a thought PEOPLES, and by the way when you want to call me out, or call me down my em is posted with my name
KIMI
| Posted by: | Zack, zlessley@yahoo.com | | Subject: | ???? | | When: | 9:41 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 204.212.170.21 |
Um what chatroom?
| Posted by: | Sugar lover, 1mean lover@aol.com | | Subject: | Do you care?? | | When: | 9:48 PM, 19 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 12.75.96.27 |
Hi, my name is Robin. Unlike most of you, I am not afraid to say. I am not very good at this, but I will tell you something , I am not too old because I take care of 12 horses, 16 cats, 6 dogs, and 4 sugar gliders. This is not about any of you. As much as I like it to be, this is about the ponies, the kitties, the doggies, and the gliders. I found by looking at this site, I wonder what you guys and gals really care about. I know I care about them. I also have a nine year old child and of course, I care about her more. BUT I care about them both almost equally!!!! I had the unfortunate opportunity to go into a glider chatroom and I was appalled to find it was more about dating/flirting than the gliders. Please tell me who of all of you ARE the lovers of animals and especially sugar gliders. And if you are, I will give you my home address and we can discuss it over a cup of coffee!!!!
| Posted by: | Barb, blooprints@yahoo.com | | Subject: | Chat | | When: | 1:45 AM, 20 Jan 2001 | | IP: | 208.130.245.3 |
Mad Max, I have to say: I loved your Freudian slip - cat room might well describe the room in recent times. I was long ago banned from it not because I cussed (I don't), not because I threatened anyone (I did not), not because I flirted (I do not), and no - I am not trying to say that I am perfect BUT I was kicked for simply having a difference of opinion.
I might also add that anyone that was in the chat (cat - LOL) room on NY's eve knows that C3PO was not there and so there was no log. That particular night someone was screaming and cursing a blue streak and was NEVER EVER kicked out of the room....What I am saying is that if the computer c3po is not moderating and would be moderators do not choose to then some people have gotten away with lewd behavior, cursing and swearing. (By that I do not mean harmless flirting, as I am sure that doesn't bother most people.)
I don't know you, Sugar Lover, but you sound like one of the more sane people I'd like to get to know.
I hope that this all gets straightened out. I see no reason it can not be if we all start to behave like adults. (Flirt if you must. There is most certainly nothing wrong with that, but do it in private.) I, for one, will go on record saying that I do not agree with all that Eric says or does - but then I don't nessarily agree with everything my friends say either, nor do I disagree with everything said by those that do not happen to like me: To each his own.
Life goes on. Whether or not we agree with Eric, this is, after all, his territory. (I am NOT saying that I agree with him on his decisions because I do not on many of them.)
Well, at least I've had my say....so the saga of the chat room goes........
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