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Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: Should I ???
When: 1:36 PM, 24 Oct 2000
IP: 209.117.80.135
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I currently own a three to four year old glider named Lilbit, she has been with me for 3 years and has not been around any other gliders in all that time. Finding any info about my little buddy has been extremely difficult until I became enlightend to the new age and got a 'puter about 3 months ago. I have made many mistakes, but thank whatever powers that be none of them extremely serious. I am learning more every day and I now know how communal these little guys are. I have an opportunity to get her a buddy, a one and a half year old male named Gilbert. From all the info I have gotten 'bout Gil he has had an extremely rough little life and is going to come equipped with an attitude. My Question is should I keep him away from 'Bitty till I can make him feel safe here or should he meet her right off so he knows he isnt alone here. Bitty came with an attitude of her own when I got her so I have some small experience with dealing with the biting. You give excellent advice about dealing with it yourself. My other question is will Bitty feel inclined to be territorial or will she more likely welcome the companionship. I would appreciate any input on the subject. And terrific site by the way. Thanks Kimi



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Posted by: Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu
Subject: Depends
When: 4:48 PM, 24 Oct 2000
IP: 12.77.82.114

All gliders are different. Your glider may be very happy to be a lone glider and may not take in another glider. At the same time she may be very lonely and is dying for a friend. She may be just fine and won't really care one way or the other.

It is just too hard to say. If you have the opportunity then it would be a good idea to try and introduce them before you ever buy the male. If they easily accept each other then you should be okay with them being together and it will help the new glider to get adjusted to your new home. However if they fight then you may hav e alot of work on your hands. They may just need time ton get used to each others smells...but you may end up with two gliders that always hate each other and never wnat to be together. Taking her there ahead of time will help you to see what you are in for.



Posted by: Rocki'sMom, babygirl@ccp.com
Subject: none
When: 11:20 PM, 24 Oct 2000
IP: 216.60.86.90

I agree with Beck...when I got my first lil guy Rocki a mate, I took him to the breeders house and let him choose, he picked a real cute lil girl, they played a bit, then we put them in the same pouch to come home and they have been together ever since and infact are expecting their first joey. I would do like beck said and take her to him ahead of time and see what kind of reaction you get. I have introduced several pairs and have not had any trouble, but have read stories of not so great introductions. Please keep us posted.

Carolyn ;)



Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: none
When: 1:39 AM, 25 Oct 2000
IP: 209.117.80.151

The situation is not convenient enough for me to take her to him. From all the info I have gotten so far I am more interested in getting him out of the situation he is in. A college student has him now and she is, in short, afraid of him or hasnt or doesnt want to take the time he obviously is going to require. My understanding of the situation is that he was found in some crummy pet shop living in an aquarium with no toys or any kind of outside contact to the point that he had chewed away half of his tail out of frustration. From there a women took him to her home and nurished him back to health but between her dogs and cats and assorted other pets hadnt the time to care for him properly and so gave him to the college student, who was looking for a buddy for her six to eight month old female who was, from what I gather, looking for something a whole lot meaker. I understand how much of a mess I am getting myself into, trust me, my own Bitty came with a set of her own problems, I am hoping to be able to make this little guys life a thing he will enjoy, I am pretty much looking for help with how to go about it and get them together with the least amount of consternation to them both. Please help people, I am definatly no expert on the subject in question, I do however have the time, the love and the patience it will require. And o yea I'm running out of time half to pick him up soon. Any input at all appreciated.



Posted by: Bourbon
Subject: Kimi
When: 2:20 AM, 25 Oct 2000
IP: 216.248.35.163

Understand that as was said ealier this may not work out, are you prepared for two cages and having 2 lone gliders? You must always prepare for the worst.
Here is a page that has been built with the pros and cons and ideas regarding intros..
<a href=http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/tips/intros.html>http://www.angelfire.com/nb/sugarglider/tips/intros.html</a>



Posted by: Kimi, norby@greenepa.net
Subject: none
When: 2:37 AM, 25 Oct 2000
IP: 209.117.80.151

yes I have thought that far ahead. I understand they may have to be kept in different rooms even. I am worried that Gil may not be able to take another change, and no matter what he is never going to have to take another one. I am not looking to breed them to sell any babys, I quite frankly dont think there are many people that will take the time they need for more than a month or so. I have a loathing for just about any pet store owner I have ever had to deal with, What kind of person could put a critter in an aqaurium when all you have to do is pick up any book and figure their natural habitat requires a lot of freedom or at the very least room to move? Please dont get me started, I may have made plenty of mistakes, but none where intentional



Posted by: dagny
Subject: idea for introduction
When: 8:03 AM, 25 Oct 2000
IP: 24.18.196.238

when you do introduce the two gliders..try it in a space that your original glider is not super used too (this could cut down on any teritory disputes. also when you do introduce the two of them into a cage, it is a good idea to replace or clean VERY well and move around al the contents of the cage (to also limit the feeling of territory) put the new one in first. if you are still haveing problems you can set up 2 different cages, and switch their pouches/bedding every few days to get them used to each others scent. if the introduction doesnt go perfectly the first time...sometimes you need to be gradual with theise things. (I'm not saying put them together if they are trying to kill one another..but sometimes animals that are not so sure about one another can become friends with some gentil coaxing ( I have seen the scent aproach work too... once they get used to that it becomes easier..finding some neutral ground for introduction is also important) winkgood luck



Posted by: Mary/Beck, intr01dc@frank.mtsu.edu
Subject: The male
When: 4:44 PM, 25 Oct 2000
IP: 12.77.81.80

1. The male could be sick and cause your female to be sick. So do not put them in the same room for at least 2 weeks. Take him to the vet asap and get him tottally checked out. How did they get him to stop chewing on his taul? Self mutilation is very serious.

2. If you aren't going to breed then get him neutered before you ever introduce them.

3. He is going to have some major trust issues so it would probably be best for you to just work on bonding with him before ever putting him in with the female.

4. If he has serious emotional problems then he may not accpet another glider...on the other hand he may be very happy to see another one. Just watch them real careful when you introduce them.

5. Your glider has been a long glider for a very long time. When you get the new glider you will have no choice but to spend less time with her. This could cause her to stress out...so pay close attention to her needs. Its not good to hurt one glider to save another. She may have a hard time accepting a new glider because of jealousy. Make sure you spend special time with ehr even after they are introduced so she knows how much you still love her.