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Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 21 2011 : 10:12:36 PM
So...I'm just curious how much you guys are feeding your gliders each day.I usually give each of my gliders 5 mealworms,8 small slices of carrot,a snap pea,a grape,and 10 very small peices of apple.(plus I always have some protein pellets in there for them.) I don't think I'm over feeding because they look right Just wanted some opinions--thanks 
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Rachaels gliders Posted - Sep 20 2011 : 08:01:02 PM
alright then, I see what your saying. I wasn't lying,just not really thinking. I talked to my vet last week about getting him neutered so that will probably happen next month. |
Kozi Posted - Sep 19 2011 : 08:20:07 PM
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Originally posted by Rachaels gliders
I never lied about it, I didn't know that she was pregnant and I never said anything about never breeding them before(which I technically didn't do, she came already pregnant). I am listening to your answers, if I didn't write back about every certain answer then sorry. I definateley have been considering them. I switched to hpw because of this and I haven't quite made the decision to breed them for sure.
I'm sorry but you did lie... knowingly letting them breed, WHICH YOU ARE DOING NOW, is breeding. I don't care how they came to you, it was, at that point, your responsibility to get him neutered. Though as you claim they have lineage and were going to be bred I'm assuming you knew and were ok with the breeding which means yes.... YOU ARE ACTIVELY BREEDING. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Sep 19 2011 : 07:46:00 PM
I never lied about it, I didn't know that she was pregnant and I never said anything about never breeding them before(which I technically didn't do, she came already pregnant). I am listening to your answers, if I didn't write back about every certain answer then sorry. I definateley have been considering them. I switched to hpw because of this and I haven't quite made the decision to breed them for sure. |
Kozi Posted - Sep 14 2011 : 06:29:01 PM
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Originally posted by Rachaels gliders
I have already done all of my researching. I wasn't just born with the knowledge. What am I supposed to do, just never breed because I haven't bred that much in the past? My sugar gliders that are a couple years old have had joeys before and those joeys sold to people who cared. I'm not saying that it isn't a big commitment or anything I'm just saying that both the future parents have good lineage, are well bonded with me,on good diets, won't be put together for a long time still,I have been doing loads of research,I have people who want to buy their joeys,and I know a lot about joeys now. why shouldn't I breed them???
They have no lineage, you've shown no proof of knowledge of lineage.
You only RECENTLY got them on a GOOD diet when you've been breeding all along and lying about it, apparently.
You haven't done enough research, when you're curious you come here and ask people to tell you what to do.. and don't even follow those tips or advice, really.
You lied about breeding, why should we believe anything else you've said about anything.. their diet, their lineage or yourself.. you could be a mill for all we know, geeze. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Sep 14 2011 : 06:25:00 PM
I have already done all of my researching. I wasn't just born with the knowledge. What am I supposed to do, just never breed because I haven't bred that much in the past? My sugar gliders that are a couple years old have had joeys before and those joeys sold to people who cared. I'm not saying that it isn't a big commitment or anything I'm just saying that both the future parents have good lineage, are well bonded with me,on good diets, won't be put together for a long time still,I have been doing loads of research,I have people who want to buy their joeys,and I know a lot about joeys now. why shouldn't I breed them??? |
csg Posted - Sep 14 2011 : 05:58:59 PM
I'm with Kozi.
Also, I posted in your other thread, since that is more in depth. |
Kozi Posted - Sep 14 2011 : 04:49:54 PM
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Originally posted by Rachaels gliders
Like I replied on the other question....I have to learn somehow and they won't be together for 11 MONTHS still....they are on hpw now and I have been learning a lot from our vet and online about breeding. I care way more about my babies than you think. I would never put them together too early. I just thought that when they are older maybe they can have some joeys together...NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL.
Yes, it is a big deal. Breeding is NOT A WAY TO LEARN. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Sep 13 2011 : 08:17:26 PM
Like I replied on the other question....I have to learn somehow and they won't be together for 11 MONTHS still....they are on hpw now and I have been learning a lot from our vet and online about breeding. I care way more about my babies than you think. I would never put them together too early. I just thought that when they are older maybe they can have some joeys together...NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL. |
Kozi Posted - Sep 13 2011 : 01:01:21 PM
And I have to dig this up, too.
Based on this, the diet you're feeding and questions you're asking... YOU DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT GLIDERS TO BE BREEDING.
Seriously, do you need money so bad you just can't wait, you have to breed now without caring about the gliders? |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Sep 02 2011 : 09:30:54 AM
Thanks Farns :) Thanks Charliebear :) The people that I got my sugar gliders from were feeding them some fruit,veggies and a mealworm every once in a while so Iam trying to give them a good new diet. Our vet said that the suncoast diet is good and balanced. |
Charliebear Posted - Sep 01 2011 : 06:44:32 PM
I got a surrender that was a year old who was not on the best diet. I was told by my Vet and Val to switch that day....it took him a week to figure everything out that was on his plate but now he loves it. Mealworms i give every two days as a treat....dont want fatty gliders |
Farns Posted - Sep 01 2011 : 01:01:24 PM
Hi, the pellet food is always going to be an issue as none of them seem to be what they try to be. I started ours off on the SunCoast diet but switched to HPW with added calcium and some of the veggie and fruit recipies from the nutrition section under the resources tab above. I do keep some of the Zookeepers Secret from SunCoast in the cage all the time and change it out as it starts to dry out (it is moist) & have tried the new food Suncoast has but our gliders just toss it out of the cage. With a joey, you will need to keep mama gliders protein intake up for her and the joey's health. That is where the HPW came in handy or one of the other diets. Our gliders eat better than we do! Good luck and keep us informed on your joey's progress. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 25 2011 : 12:55:59 AM
Thank you for all of the advice :) I have decided to just buy the suncoast staple food and do the whole suncoast diet. I just ordered it so it will hopefully be here soon.
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JazzNZoeysmom Posted - Aug 24 2011 : 09:10:53 PM
Also, if you give it some thought,...your baby is eating WHAT YOU FEED HER. She's hungry & is gonna eat what is provided. And I do know that they need extra protein & calcium while they have Joeys in the pouch to help support that new life. Just because she is surviving doesn't mean she's thriving & I know you want what's best for her so I would definately do some research. You don't have to take anyone's word for it here...I got my babies from PP & they cautioned me NOT to believe the forums so I steered clear for a bit, but I did research Sugar Gliders in the wild & common sense told me if they are sap suckers, hard pellets can't be good for them...they have no juices to "suck." I do believe Suncoast probably has a quality pellet as far as pellets go,... I don't believe they are just a bunch of junk. They sent me a sample with my cage, I soaked them in apple juice to soften them & my babies liked them & I am still considering purchasing some for an occassional treat for them to nibble on, but they won't eat them consistently. The only thing they have ever eaten consistently & totally cleaned the bowl every time is HPW COMPLETE. Just another opinion but I wish you all the luck in the world with your baby & her Joey. |
newby Posted - Aug 24 2011 : 08:26:46 PM
Thank you Dizzy, forgot to add that part. LOL. |
DizzyPo Posted - Aug 24 2011 : 08:02:47 PM
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Originally posted by newby
Another thing, did you know that gliders can and have lived 15+ years? With that being said, just because they have lived off of pellets for their whole of ONE year does not really mean that pellets are good for them.
I just wanted to add that they can, have, and do live up to 15 years on a good diet! With the majority of pellets equaling poop on a stick, I'd toss the crap now and get something decent. |
newby Posted - Aug 24 2011 : 07:30:22 PM
Diet change will not stress them out.
Another thing, did you know that gliders can and have lived 15+ years? With that being said, just because they have lived off of pellets for their whole of ONE year does not really mean that pellets are good for them. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 23 2011 : 09:41:08 PM
I probably will get the suncoast pellets but I will at least wait till the female has had her joey. I've read on a lot of websites that a diet change really stresses them out. Also I know that it is okay to feed them that just for a couple more days until the joey because she has had two other very healthy joeys while eating those pellets. |
misscarl Posted - Aug 23 2011 : 02:49:44 PM
does that mean if they had been fed cat food all their lives you wouldnt switch? it does not matter if they have always eaten it if it isnt good for them. i would strongly recommend getting them on an approved diet or at least feeding the actual suncoast diet and not the pellets you currently have. they are like feeding junk food to your glider. i disagree with feeding pellets as part of their diet anyway, but thats just my personal opinion. if you are going to feed the suncoast diet, you should feed the suncoast pellets or else it is not the actual diet. the other pellets will not have the same amounts of protein, calcium, and phosphorus in them and that will throw off the whole diet. using the excuse that they have always eaten it means nothing. it should not matter. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 23 2011 : 12:50:21 PM
Lisa emailed me back and she said that I need to feed them less fruits and veggies and not feed them mealworms everyday because of the fat in them. She didn't seem to find anything wrong with the dry food...I just don't think I should switch it since I got them when they were about 1 year old already and they have been eating it all of their life. |
kyro298 Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 09:25:43 PM
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JazzNZoeysmom Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 08:13:50 PM
Valkyriemome is absolutely correct! I feed HPW COMPLETE... hpwplus.com can give you info. I have researched the Suncoast pellets but only as a dry pellet to toss in the cage since mine sometimes like something hard to chew on & IF I'm going to do that, what I offer will be nutritious, or as nutritious as a pellet can be. But you really need a good balanced diet as a base. |
valkyriemome Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 07:22:32 PM
Vita exotics is NOT a good pellet to use. If you aren't using SunCoast pellets, you aren't feeding the SunCoast diet. The pellets have the correct protein amounts.
Really - suncoast pellets and "Happy Glider" from Pet Pro (I think?) are the only pellets I'd ever recommend - and even then they are NOT a complete diet. |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 06:52:59 PM
it's called ~vita exotics~ |
Kozi Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 04:51:09 PM
Pet store food is often bad. I haven't seen one pet store yet that sold good 'dry' sugar glider food.
What brand is it? |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 04:04:00 PM
Iam using the pet store brand dry food. I just emailed Lisa so I am just waiting for a reply  |
valkyriemome Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 02:33:29 PM
You are feeding the SunCoast dry staple?
If that is the case, then I think it should be fine. I'd check with Lisa at SunCoast to make sure her diet has enough calcium. |
sjones5254 Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 02:04:58 PM
check the nutrtion tab up top it also has a caculator for finding out ratios |
Rachaels gliders Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 01:58:40 PM
What is it lacking though? |
beanie Posted - Aug 22 2011 : 01:06:16 PM
I don't think I would feed that either. I think you should do a little more research on recommended diets . I feed the original HPW. |
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