Register Register New Posts Active Topics | Search Search | FAQ FAQ

GliderGossip
 Sugar Gliders
 SCAMS ABOUND

Note: You must be registered in order to post a reply.
To register, click here. Registration is FREE!

  Posting A Reply To: SCAMS ABOUND
UserName:
Password:
Message
Category:
 
Default, miscellaneousResearch InformationFood, DietHealth relatedLaws, Rules, & RegulationsScientific InformationJoeys, birth, parenthoodPicturesInformationQuestionOff topic chatHeated DebatesFunnyMemorial, Passing, RemembranceRescueNewsBehavior
Format: Bold Italic Underline Strikethrough   Horizontal Rule   Insert Hyperlink Insert Email   Image Tag Upload Image My Photo Albums   Insert Quote Insert List   Insert Movie  
Message:

* HTML is OFF
* Forum Code is ON
Smilies
Smile [:)] Big Smile [:D] Cool [8D] Blush [:I]
Tongue [:P] Evil [):] Wink [;)] Clown [:o)]
Black Eye [B)] Eight Ball [8] Frown [:(] Shy [8)]
Shocked [:0] Angry [:(!] Dead [xx(] Yawn [yawn]
Kisses [:X] Approve [^] Disapprove [V] Question [?]
Smile [^_^] Wink [^_-] Tongue [^,^] Frown [^=^]
Cheer [cheer] Bonk [bonk] Clap [clap]
Laughing Out Loud [LOL] Cry [cry] Wave [wave]
Gibbs [gibbs] Now I Get It [nowigetit] Cake [cake]
  Check here to subscribe to this topic.
 
    

T O P I C    R E V I E W
kazko Posted - Jun 23 2011 : 09:55:30 AM
There does seem to be an uptick in listings all over the Internet of sugar gliders for sale in a highly sketchy manner. A true modern day person will not let themselves be taken by scams like these but it never hurts to share what to look for as some people may simply not be aware that there are others out there willing to take your money from you.

Please share some things you think others need to look out for before sending money to some distant island to ship in animals.


Here are mine as I can recall:

Dont send money out of the country or to an island.

Dont fall for sob, extended or complicated stories. Most folks simply list something for sale and that's it. Long stories start to scream scam.

There is no substitute for doing an in-person exchange.

Buy locally.

Roadtrip to pick up your new animals no matter how far. If you really cant manage this, you really dont need to be having animals in the first place.

Ask around to see if anyone else has dealt with this person.

Look for post count in forums.

Buyer beware.

If it seems too good to be true, it is.

Don't be greedy.

Get your animals from a sanctuary, shelter, rescue that has a history.

Take your time. If you are in a hurry, you are not ready for animals.

30   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First)
Scoria Posted - May 24 2018 : 03:29:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ZooVeteran

How can they deliver gliders by post ?!



They don't actually mail them. They fly them. Or at least legitimate breeders do.

https://www.thepetglider.com/pages/travel-arrangements
ZooVeteran Posted - May 06 2018 : 10:42:38 AM
How can they deliver gliders by post ?!
Scoria Posted - Nov 27 2017 : 10:37:22 PM
I just wanted to add my experience to the pile. I got my boys off of Craigslist, but the first two ads I contacted about were scammers. One had a phone number that was definitely not local, used broken english, and immediately offered to "ship them straight to my door" then stopped replying when I said I wanted to get them in person. The other sent me a bunch of glider pictures he pulled off of google images and when I crosschecked his number he apparently also sells marijuana. It's possible that this guy actually did have some gliders but was either too lazy to get actual pictures of them or they were pretty bad off so he didn't want to. I stopped corresponding with him after finding the marijuana ad so I never found out how he'd respond to me wanting to pick them up. It's possible he would have tried to give me bag of mice.
duari91 Posted - May 02 2017 : 06:09:00 PM
Just some more tips from what i've experienced in the past:

The general scam story going around right now is a sob story about how a ladies daughter passed away in an accident, and that she has to get rid of her (insert pet here) because she can't bare to look at it (it reminds her of the daughter).

Essentially they'll go on and on about how they want to make sure that you'll take good care of the animal and you aren't a bad person...yada yada.

They'll write an entire novel of stuff. That's the red flag. No one writes a novel. Legitimate sellers are prompt and direct. They want to sell it for X dollars, at Y day/time, at Z location.

Also, do the following when you find an ad online advertising the sale of Gliders:

#1. Run the photos of the Gliders in google images. It will tell you if they are fakes/copies and where the origin website is. I've almost been fooled by this. I responded to an ad that had images from a UK Glider info website. Of course, I didn't know until I ran the images.

#2. Run their email (if they give it to you/provided on Craigslist). If you google their email address in quotations, it will show you every direct result for the address. You can see if they have a bunch of different ads open, which could tell you if its legitimate or not. One time, I saw a bunch of entries, for a bunch of different pets (dogs/birds/etc). Immediately run from these advertisements,

#3. Run their phone number. This is the same as the email address. But you can also run their area code to see where they are from. I saw some people posting an ad in a state that was different than their area code. Upon inquiry they told me they were out of state and wanted to ship the animal to me. Avoid this at all costs.

Following precaution for buying animals online:

#1. Make sure they come with proper documentation (vet visits/lineage/etc)

#2. MEET IN A PUBLIC PLACE. Can't be stated enough. So many people get robbed, or worse, because they tricked into going to a secluded place. If the seller is unwilling to meet in a public area, cancel the deal. Selling animals is big money for some people. When there is a lot of money involved, the risk for fraud/robbery increases.

#3. Try and get as much info from them as you can. For example, what is their first name(by introducing yourself)? Phone number(texting pictures or communicating)? People unwilling to give general information probably don't want to be known. Avoid them at all costs.

#4. Bring people with you. Safety in numbers, for obvious reasons.

Last little note I can give is, trust your gut.


This is all information i've learned by trying to get MY Gliders via online/through ads. I hope this helps out.

Kinsey.ash Posted - Feb 14 2016 : 05:27:00 PM
I was on craigslist and looking for a sugar glider and saw one in a town about 5 hours away who said they did deliveries to anywhere for free. I was being stupid and replied and they were saying how I needed to send money today for them to deliver a Mosaic Joey to me for only 100$ even though I had only asked how much it was for their Joey. I came to a conclusion that it was probably a scam so I just ignored them but then they stated calling me! And "She" said her name was Elizabeth but when I got the calls it was some Indian guy who called like every hour so I just blocked him because he kept leaving voicemails saying he needed to know where I live and to mail him the money.
daynaandbrent Posted - Sep 08 2014 : 04:27:25 PM
Ok ill have to double check to see which form it was. Thanks.
Candy Posted - Sep 07 2014 : 10:11:53 PM
If you contacted someone from Glider Central you have probably found a reliable breeder. That forum is very strict about making sure the breeders that post their joeys are active members of the glider community - known to other folks on the forum and if they have a history of poor sales practices - they are not allowed to post.

daynaandbrent Posted - Sep 07 2014 : 07:35:54 PM
I just contacted someone off of another form someone here gave me the link to and she contacted me back. I sure hope she isn't a scammer. I believe she is in another state. I can't find anyone closer to where I am to deal locally. If she is scamming I will definitely let yall know!
drummerrip Posted - Sep 03 2014 : 01:00:37 PM
Beware bellesahin@yahoo.com
Turns out "Sahin Belle" is a Camaroon-based scammer.
Always check the photos against Google, and if possible, I recommend facebook stalking to make sure the person is real. :)
tootles Posted - Aug 15 2014 : 07:00:54 AM
No glider pets is S&S exotics they are a mill breeder. You might be rescuing a glider if you get one from them. But if your new I would not suggest it.
9597girl Posted - Jun 28 2014 : 08:36:26 PM
Is GliderPets a good place to purchase joeys?
They are in Houston, TX, and I was wondering if any of y'all have purchases from them. Thanks!
Ezra0622 Posted - Jun 20 2014 : 09:11:33 AM
Has anyone been scammed by someone with the email address brandywesly@gmail i have been looking around for my first sugar gliders for a while now and i received an email with pictures of the gliders yesterday and she thanked me for inquiring about them then told be about them and what they came with. I didn't recall the subject name since i always use the header of the original ad to keep from getting confused. But i replied with a few questions and she replied saying that i could not pick them up since she lived in Minnesota and that she would ship them and their stuff to me for $280. Then she asked for my information. I am from Nj and have never looked any where but within a 3 hour driving distance from my location.
indiccarose Posted - Feb 15 2014 : 01:46:33 AM
I'm sorry, I'm not trying to poke fun about a serious topic, but reading all the posts about Cameroon, have made me giggle because, for one I live on Cameron street In Louisiana(that's just weird). But when I read Cameroon, In my head I pronounce it like Saskatoon ( like in the movie grownups).Maybe I've just been up to late playing with the babies..lol
zeusismyboy309 Posted - Feb 14 2014 : 10:33:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by kazko

There does seem to be an uptick in listings all over the Internet of sugar gliders for sale in a highly sketchy manner. A true modern day person will not let themselves be taken by scams like these but it never hurts to share what to look for as some people may simply not be aware that there are others out there willing to take your money from you.

Please share some things you think others need to look out for before sending money to some distant island to ship in animals.


Here are mine as I can recall:

Dont send money out of the country or to an island.

Dont fall for sob, extended or complicated stories. Most folks simply list something for sale and that's it. Long stories start to scream scam.

There is no substitute for doing an in-person exchange.

Buy locally.

Roadtrip to pick up your new animals no matter how far. If you really cant manage this, you really dont need to be having animals in the first place.

Ask around to see if anyone else has dealt with this person.

Look for post count in forums.

Buyer beware.

If it seems too good to be true, it is.

Don't be greedy.

Get your animals from a sanctuary, shelter, rescue that has a history.

Take your time. If you are in a hurry, you are not ready for animals.



hi everyone something like this happened to me has anyone of you heard of the name Pocket Pets. well they said that they were the number one breeders in the world. ITS A LIE!!!!!!!! the food is grounded up dog food and the gravy makes them stink. luckily at pet smart i ran into a lady named becka she told us that 3 or 4 of her gliders died from using their so called "healthy diet" so i was really upset when i found that out but what made me devastated was when i found out that the brothers and sisters breed ed and i just wanted to let everyone know
Lbell513 Posted - Jan 14 2014 : 09:36:41 PM
Hey guys if you want to know a legitimate sugar glider website go to www.gliderpets.com they send them in a nice and comfy box for them the next Thursday after you order them I got glider from them and they are great
onelilmermaid Posted - Dec 19 2013 : 01:51:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Candy

The email address should have been your first clue to a scam
taylor_stephanie47@yahoo.co.uk - the UK at the end indicates the email was established in the UNITED KINGDOM



I'm afraid that did not raise any flags for me as I know people who live here but are from the UK that still use the same email address. However, when the "shipping company" sent an email with the same .co.UK that did indeed clue me in. I will, however, readily admit that I am a gullible person, no matter how hard I try not to be.
Candy Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 11:42:14 PM
The email address should have been your first clue to a scam
taylor_stephanie47@yahoo.co.uk - the UK at the end indicates the email was established in the UNITED KINGDOM
onelilmermaid Posted - Dec 10 2013 : 04:12:31 PM
I was recently sold the Jenner story too, from someone claiming to be Stephanie Taylor with the email taylor_stephanie47@yahoo.co.uk . I looked up her email and the photos she sent me, but did not find anything suspicious until the "shipping company" she was going to use sent me an email asking for a wire transfer of money (which of course I said no way to). They were clever and used the name of a real company, AirAnimals, but I looked up this company which said they have been having a lot of trouble with people pretending to be them and selling animals. The email came from airanimals_airlines@yahoo.co.uk .

One thing I learned is that animals are never shipped to your door, someone always must pick them up from the airport.
Lucille Posted - Jun 29 2013 : 02:46:39 PM
NEVER send money via Western Union to a vendor you don't know.
Check out reps of vendors by doing a search both Google and here
If they send a picture, run it through Tineye to make sure the photo is really theirs:
www.tineye.com

There are many reputable vendors. There are many good rescues. And you can be a hero to older gliders who are being rehomed on Craigslist or elsewhere by giving them a new, caring home. Just pay attention.
Be safe. Not only are their scams for your money, but there are violent predatory people on CL, so take precautions.

Using Paypal can be iffy because sometimes they will not back up disputes about critters (although sometimes they do). Using a credit card is good except that you don't want to give a scammer access to your credit card number.

I recently looked through CL and ended up with a nice one year old pair of gliders. But along the way there was a person who said she would sell to me but when I said I wanted to pickup, just stopped communicating. There was another who was excessively vague- could not give me cage measurements, or her name or a phone number. It was a good deal but I finally said no thanks after several unanswered requests for info.

I know how it is when you think you have a really good deal, or when you are led to believe that you have to purchase right then and there or there is no deal. You focus on mental pictures of those cute gliders in your home instead of taking your time and thinking it over and focussing on the transaction. Scammers know this, so they step up the 'cute' descriptions and pressure you to pay up right away.

There will always be other deals, other gliders. Keep your cash and yourself safe by going the extra mile to check out any purchase you are considering.

Lilmama1084 Posted - Jun 25 2013 : 06:38:27 PM
heatherkinggliders@gmail.com this person is also a scam!! From lima cameroon. If you look up her email she's in every city, has pictures, but wants money western union. Luckily for me I told her I wanted to meet her in person. She insisted on shipping to my door which is impossible where I live.
sugella Posted - May 03 2013 : 02:28:38 AM
Another scammer is vannesacorks@yahoo.com. I don't know if 'she/he' is still doing it, but they were active last year. Everything sounds OK until you get the 'no you can't pick them up' (she's 'in Colorado') and the money transfer is through Western Union money transfer, the home of scammers.

Any email that asks you for every detail about yourself is probably a scam (identity fraud).

Any email with 'god bless' sounds like Nigerian or some other African country scammers. That's sad, that they'd use the Lord's name as they attempt to scam money out of you.
DanteD716 Posted - May 02 2013 : 04:01:01 PM
When I bought my glider, me and the seller (a very kind woman) first emailed for about a week, then exchanged numbers and texted for a few more days, and met in person. Safest way and best way I think possible. But somebody posted that improper grammar is a red flag. I disagree, because my seller used texting laguage (ur instead of your, etc) but she was real, and very kind. Some people just like making spelling simpler
sleighr Posted - Apr 21 2013 : 11:59:27 PM
Scammers posted on CL in Flagstaff! free gliders... Wanna make sure they go to a good home.... 180 bucks delivery... Richmond VA this time. Asked for my info, and I asked what service they were going to use to ship and how they could promise 180 bucks delivery to my house out in the sticks. They broke it off. They were working my daughter and me at the same time! When daughter said she wanted to pick the gliders up, the scammer broke off.
When I first contacted these folk, I was mostly concerned about the gliders being snake chow... I really did not care about having a couplemore greys. as the conversation progressed it was obvious there were no gliders involved.... only air. Watch your back!
Happy Landings.
Cathryn95 Posted - Apr 01 2013 : 07:52:07 PM
I am so glad my mum turned me onto this. I was just about to be scammed.
She sent me a scam from 2012 and it read almost exactly like the email I had just received. I figured I would give you guys an update.

The email address is glidersfly30@gmail.com

Hi

All sounds well and its nice reading from you and sorry for the late reply.
Yes I do have sugar gliders.I am having 2 male and 2 female sugar gliders for re homing,as they
socialized well with each other.Their temperament is Good,they are play full with,kids and other pets.
They are more comfortable with toys as this prevent them from getting bored.They
are health Guaranteed .
They are up to date on all shots/deworming.
They will be Delivered with their health papers along side vet records.They are called Max,Fred,Velma and Kiki
Max and Velma and brother and sister.while Kiki and Fred are twins
Here are some attached pictures of the sugar gliders.

I am actually giving out these sugar gliders because they belonged to my daughter(Jenner) but with a heavy heart i lost Jenner and she was all i got ,i work with a global,broad-based health care Company Devoted to Discovering New Medicines, New technologies
and new ways to Manage Health.Jenner died in an Accident last 6 weeks on her way back from
her piano classes and i have very bad memories when
i see these sugar gliders around me,because they were always together with her since i am always busy in the laboratory.
I really need to give them to someone who can really care and love them just the way Jenner used to,as Max,Fred,Velma and Kiki has been very lonely since Jenner passed away so the best thing i decided on as my colleague advised me was to send them to a loving home .

I really count on you if you can be there for these sugar gliders.I will Deliver them to you .
Please may i also ask you a few Questions?
Where are you base?
Are you a breeder?
Do you have kids?
Can you also promise that you will take good care them?
How soon are you ready to have them home?
Which of them are you ready for?

At least with this information,I will get to know better where they will be going to .I just hope you will love them.
I will also like you to promise me that you will always send
pictures to me monthly so that I can see how they are doing in
your home.I will be waiting for your mail.

Thanks

There were even pictures! I'm a little upset now, because those gliders looked simply adorable.
karensink Posted - Mar 21 2013 : 05:56:58 PM
wow, i look at that scam info that i posted over a year ago.... i have learned sooo much in this past year. i can understand overcharging for gliders, but i just don't get the advertising and not even having them. i guess to just get the money and run. so glad that i didn't fall victim. i have a sweet family of 13 gliders now, from all over, all different reasons that they have come to me. and some born here.
glad everyone looks out for each other.
valkyriemome Posted - Jan 27 2013 : 03:51:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by michellehc2007

quote:
Originally posted by karensink

Here's a new scam, they list the same listing in various cities. www.hoobly.com/0/0/1991305.html
here's the email i got concerning the listing (same email from same person, different cities)
i know it has to be fake, no one microchips or vacinates gliders, do they?
They are still available and ready to go for a new home.I have 5 sugar gliders.They are home raised, vet checked and will come with all papers needed. In placing this gliders up for adoption,am looking for reasonable,knowledgeable and cautious person who can offer them tenderness,nursery with lots of love kisses and hugs.I am not out to look for money by selling my babies but all i need is just a caring and loving forever home for my babies where they will be well loved and spoiled to rotten ..... .These adorable,cute and gorgeous gliders are 11 weeks 4days old and will be the perfect match for your family.They will be the best playmate you've ever dreamed of.With their great personality & good temperaments with kids and other pets,they will be the once to steal your heart.They will be coming along with their vet records with lots of play toys.You have nothing to worry about because i will also enclose their hand book & feeding menu to their package. Promise me that you will shower them or one of them with lots of TLC ..And i will never like my baby to end up in a shelter or rescue,feel free to mail me if you are willing to get them or one.I will like to ask you some few questions if you do not mind.

1:Where are you located(Mr/Mrs)?
2:Do you have kids.if yes are they going to take good care of the gliders?
3:Are you a breeder?
4:Do you have experience in breeding gliders?
5:How soon do you need them?
6:How many gliders will you like to adopt? Identify sex of gliders you wanna adopt.


Sorry for asking so much questions but i am just trying to look for a good and loving home for my babies. Am giving them out because i just moved into a new and non pet apartment so am desperate in getting them re-homed in any part of USA since they all have approved shipping papers and traveling crates.One will go at an adoption fee of $180 with traveling cage since i will be shipping them to any interested person from Maryland where i live, 2 will cost $360 & so on depending on the amount you wanna adopt.

Sugar gliders also come with the following papers;

# Health guarantee
# Vaccine record
# Microchip Registration
# Pedigree
# Nutrition supplement
# Traveling Crate

View recent pictures of gliders below

Thanks and wait for your response asap.






Funny- that is EXACTLY the same message you get when you inquire about other scammed animals. Be it a parrot or a cat or a dog .... the EXACT same email, only the species has been changed.
Sam13 Posted - Jan 27 2013 : 02:59:29 PM
Witchcraft is also a correct name, one can be Wiccan without being a witch and vice versa. I practice the craft but am not Wiccan.
Please do post who did the scam, I'm thinking about getting a third baby in the next year or so and REALLY don't wanna be scammed :D
kb314 Posted - Jan 27 2013 : 02:41:41 AM
I saw that same ad on hoobly when I first started looking for a breeding pair in 2012, I am glad I trusted my gut and realized they were a scam. I was planning on driving to pick up my pair, wherever they were so I told them I wanted their information so I could pick them up, also told them I wanted their phone number so I could call them, never could get a response back. So I would suggest to get them to prove that they are reputable. Anyone that is, will be able to prove it.
julieee9473 Posted - Jan 18 2013 : 02:46:40 AM
I'm Wiccan as well. It truly changed my life for the better. =)
ILoveLucy Posted - Jan 17 2013 : 10:59:25 PM
Not personally a Wiccan... But I do have a great respect for their beliefs & practices! It has been something that has always interested me, and would love to learn more about :)