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Dsmsugarglider Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 01:02:12 PM
I'm new here, so I apologize if this post is in the wrong place, or if these questions have been asked here (honestly, I assume they have, but I don't feel like digging).
About a month and a half ago I got two standard grey, white-faced male joey's who were about 10 weeks OOP. We've bonded fine, and I have no issues. However, my friend has a male and two female joeys (not related, both 10 weeks OOP) that he has to get rid of ASAP and offered them to me for free. My immediate thought was "absolutely!" But I wanted to do some research first. I'm aware of the quarantine period (and plan on buying a larger cage anyways, any size recommendations?), and that they should be introduced on neutral ground, etc. My problem problem is going from 2 gliders to 5 gliders so soon. Spending time with them isn't an issue (I work from home), but having 3 unneutered males with 2 females sounds dangerous. I eventually want to neuter the males, but want to experience a round or two of breeding first. My concern is violence occurring once one or two males bond with a female. Do I separate them by sex immediately? or just the bonded couple?
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sjusovare Posted - Sep 15 2017 : 02:33:16 PM
It seems that there is not really a rule with gliders though, over here it's not my males who are territorial, it's my females, and I have to watch very closely because one of them is a little bully and is always having a go at her sisters for control over everything in the cage. |
lilsistar Posted - Sep 15 2017 : 03:13:23 AM
I've only had gliders in my care for two years and about four in the care of my family. In that time I learned dominance and territory becomes a problem. Unneutered males can become very territorial of females. They also have a problem fighting for who is the dominant one.
My brother bought two female gliders around four years ago. About three years ago he got a male free off Craigslist. They breed and Finn was born. At this time my brother decided gliders were too much for him so I got them. That was a mess.
I went from four gliders to 9. Two have passed away so I only have 7 now. Breeding caused so much stress for me and the gliders. It was very overwhelming. It also made things complicated because I kept getting territorial males. Three out of five males were territorial. One territorial male did pass away making it possible to have only two cages.
I currently have two cages. One with three I take care of and one with four my sister takes care of. I have to separate Finn from all other males because he is very dominant and will fight any glider who is male or doesn't belong to his pod. All of the males are now neutered and I still have this problem.
Why am I telling you this story? Because in two years all of this happened. It was a mess. I don't want you to go through the same thing with out at least getting a warning. My life became so much easier after neutering them. Yes, the babies are cute, but the numbers rack up fast. Don't put yourself through that. |
Dsmsugarglider Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 11:52:48 PM
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Originally posted by BennyNace
Im not trying to sound like a jerk, so please don't take it that way. I would just like to suggest waiting for a while before attempting to breed them. You definitely want to have a good deal of experience before bringing more suggies into the world. Also, I just want to add, from my own personal experience, if you do take the other 3 gliders, be prepared just in case they don't get along. This may mean separate cages (which means more room) and separate bonding times for you and them. Sometimes it can take them a while to like each other. Also, the bigger the cage the better. I have a critter nation cage, and I really love it.
Thanks for the response. I didn't end up taking them on, your points were incredibly valid.
I probably should have elaborated on my original comment. I had a pair of standard male gliders as a kid. When I was ten, I asked for a dog, and ended up with sugar gliders and a ferret cage. They passed away after about ten years. I bonded with them, cleaned their cage, fed them, made sure they had fresh water, and when I was old enough I had to pay for their welfare. During that time, however, I never introduced a third glider, and never introduced a female. Currently I have about a dozen pouches, and my cage from when I was younger (which, looking at it now, is nice, but doesn't provide the space I would prefer for a colony), I bring that up because I just ordered a five level cage. So separating the gliders if they do not get along would be easy.
BYK: What sorts of problems can be caused by multiple unneutered males? I had two and they lived fine their entire lives. I understand that they were brothers, and know that there is always the risk of problems, but what should I look out for? and are they common?
My new plan is to re-visit this breeding thing next year. |
BYK_Chainsaw Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 11:29:31 PM
from what I have read, having 3 unneutered males together could cause problems.
We have gliders for a few years now, I told the wife NO BREEDING, first we needed to learn so much just about gliders themselves. Second there seems to be plenty of others already breeding and lots of gliders on craigslist.
I would just suggest you have and enjoy gliders and learn more about them. maybe learn about breeding (I know very little on the subject) then look into breeding later on. there is just so much to think about, color, lineage, proper care.
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BennyNace Posted - Sep 14 2017 : 02:31:00 PM
Im not trying to sound like a jerk, so please don't take it that way. I would just like to suggest waiting for a while before attempting to breed them. You definitely want to have a good deal of experience before bringing more suggies into the world. Also, I just want to add, from my own personal experience, if you do take the other 3 gliders, be prepared just in case they don't get along. This may mean separate cages (which means more room) and separate bonding times for you and them. Sometimes it can take them a while to like each other. Also, the bigger the cage the better. I have a critter nation cage, and I really love it. |
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