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MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 05 2018 : 08:04:05 PM
I've recently noticed my female gliders chin is rather pink and look like it doesn't have fur on that spot. is something wrong with her? |
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Leela Posted - Aug 19 2018 : 06:13:57 PM
good deal!! hopefully she feels better soon! |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 19 2018 : 05:24:51 PM
I finally was able to go to a vet. We found out a few things. Yes, she had a small abscess. They gave us a bottle of something to clean it with. They say to clean it 2-3 times a day for 7-10 days. If it's not getting better in a week or so to take her back.
We also found out she doesn't have two joeys but, she has three! |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 08 2018 : 03:18:16 PM
Hmmm, that could actually be it. I haven't seen her do it since that time where I showed you. I don't want to assume she doesn't do it because I'm not there with her every second. When she does it she doesn't seem to rub against the cage. It does look like she actually may be scent marking.
Can anyone help me find a vet located in New Jersey? I noticed last night she had this like freak out and while she was freaking out about something she was barking and seemed like she didn't trust me. |
Leela Posted - Aug 08 2018 : 01:09:57 PM
Slowed down you can see her really lean, then rub her belly
If MolyandOlivia's glider reallly got into marking that would most definately explain how she is moving and the random times she does it. Especially if she has joeys in pouch her hormones are elevated....
sorry the music sounds horrible slowed down i couldn't get rid of it 
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Leela Posted - Aug 08 2018 : 12:38:06 PM
This is my porkchop Miss Nicky. The glider inside the cage was a intact male joey. She marked everything on top of his cage but this is the best video i could find of it. She leans against the box to rub her scent on it like a dog would.
I may try to edit it n see if I can slow it down a little.
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Leela Posted - Aug 08 2018 : 11:43:48 AM
That is a very good observation and question. It is unlikely she is scratching, butttttttttt she very well could be 'marking' the cage.
It is not uncommon for some females to mark a cage as much as males do, in fact I have a female that does that and yess now that i think about it she moves like that when she does it, I have a video of it somewhere I'll try to find it. |
scoot Posted - Aug 08 2018 : 11:33:26 AM
About the walking. In the video it looks like she's scratching up against the walls of the cage. Does she always do it against a wall?
I'm more of a novice, but is it unlikely that she's just scratching her back? |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 08 2018 : 09:29:28 AM
I just tried to get a picture of her chin and she wouldn't let me. She squirmed everywhere. I'll probably try again later. How do you get your glider to stop squirming? They were also barking a bit much last night. They don't really bark. They only barked when I first got them. |
Leela Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 10:42:09 PM
abscesses can happen anywhere on the body not just their faces. It is often by the eye yes, but it can present itself anywhere. |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 10:32:42 PM
i have never seen an abscess on a gliders chin. Only their eye or so. Its hard for me to tell if an abscess is the case.
I can try and get a picture of her chin like how i did with her belly but she was very squirmy. |
Leela Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 10:08:36 PM
great pic of her belly.
Ok if she does have a bacterial infection, it would most likely show on her belly. There doesn't appear to be an issue there.
When gliders have bacterial infections in their mouth they can spread it to the rest of their body when they groom themselves. The belly will get dark, almost a dark brown, it will look wet but not really feel wet, it feels greasy like the glider isn't grooming.
If she has an infection, its not likely bacterial her fur looks pretty good. She may have an abscess that hasn't expressed any bacteria to her mouth yet though.
Can you hold her like that again and get a pic of her chin? |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 09:35:39 PM
It's not swollen and there isn't a big lump not really a lump at all. I'll try and get a picture of her chin and I'll insert a pic of her belly. 
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Leela Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 09:11:26 PM
i was curious because i have 2 gliders here with a bacterial infection. They don't move like that, but i also can't see your girls belly to see the fur.
is her chin swollen or like a lump at all? |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 08:59:46 PM
i also just had a look at her chin and it was still red and it had something in the middle. it almost looked like a micro pimple lol |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 08:58:38 PM
oh, Sherri told me that i should probably ask her |
Leela Posted - Aug 07 2018 : 05:11:22 PM
you mentioned bacterial infection yesterday and i forgot to touch on that, what makes you think possible bacterial infection? |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 05:01:21 PM
The good thing here is she's still acting and looks more than okay. Let's cross our finger that it's nothing serious! Since she is most likely having joeys, is there anything I should take note on? |
Leela Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 04:41:38 PM
well then......... not a bad thing that it probably isn't a seizure. I know they freeze like she's saying and that is most common but I didn't know if it would be possible to present physically different from that or not. I've seen another glider seize on a video but it was much more "violent" for lack of a better description, than your girl and it wasn't the freezing up that she described.
But there are many types of seizures so the visible signs may still vary I really don't know.
So if it's "probably not" seizures, could be neurological or as I said earlier an injury of some sort to her spine.
Gliders move in all kinds of crazy ways, it may have happened when you weren't watching.
No one's placing blame, just trying to figure out the cause because that type of movement is not seen very often.
So please know, it's nothing you could have prevented, even if it was an accident, and who knows she may have had a preexisting condition before you even got her. There is so much we still don't know about glider medical issues it is a constant learning experience for the whole community.
Your doing all the right things, asking questions, showing how she moves, going to the vet...... that's all you can do and your doing a good job.
Until she can safely have an xray there probably isn't much that can be done for her unfortunately. But vet visit still the best option for her n see what they say.
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MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 04:41:29 PM
She thinks it has something to do with calcium. "I'm thinking either a bacterial infection, neurological issue or possible calcium problem. But calcium issues are normally a secondary problem."
I didn't think of this as they have a good diet |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 03:32:57 PM
Sherri has replied! She says "That doesn't sound like seizures. With gliders a seizure is more like they freeze in one spot, their face twitches and they drool. That occurs from anywhere from 10 seconds to a minute and then they snap out of it and are fine.
Yours doesn't sound like a seizure. Have you taken it to the vet to have her checked out?" |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 02:19:26 PM
I'll definitely keep you updated. I don't think it's a spinal injury because I'm always watching over them and checking on them and they haven't fell or done anything to injure the spine.
I'm going to take her in at least for her chin. They can at least tell me what it possibly is and how to treat it. I don't want to injure the joeys for an x-ray so we may not do that just yet. I just hope she's okay as I want the best for my gliders. I'm also going to get my male a checkup as we got him recently (June 30th) so I want to make sure we got him healthy. |
Leela Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 02:14:25 PM
Good deal  , please keep us updated I'd like to know what Sherri thinks and says.
The other possibility is some sort of spinal injury, but because she isn't walking like that allll the time, I'd lean more towards seizures.
Vet might not want to do xrays on her with joeys in pouch, so they may not be able to much just yet but I would still take her in for sure. Have them check her teeth and chin for sure, and ask about potential seizures.
As far as i know the only thing that can be done for seizures is reducing what ever the trigger is so she doesn't have them as often. But again, Sherri knows much more about them than i do hopefully she will get back to you soon she is probably at work. |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 02:02:48 PM
I'll definitely put another portion of critter love also considering they always lick the plate clean lol. I'm getting them the critter love chicken kibble Incase when she is nursing she doesn't eat at night and in daytime she wants a snack. This is their first time.
I contacted her and I'm still waiting for her reply. I'm taking the to the vet this weekend for a checkup also. |
Leela Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 01:40:03 PM
:) any time.
She most likely does then, you can add another portion of the critter love complete and salad portion to her cage while the joeys are in pouch.
This will provide mom with extra if she needs it while nursing. When they come out of pouch that extra portion becomes the joeys portion when mom and dad start to ween them and mom eats less of it.
Please be prepared if this is the first time they have had joeys. First time parents are not always successful or ready.
I would def contact Sherri about how she moves, she would have a better idea if its seizure like than anyone else I know including most vets lol. You can tell her Carla Yokom sent you to her if that helps. |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 01:27:23 PM
My male also always grooms her but it's always the top of her head or her back. |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 01:25:26 PM
Okay. Thank you so much you are such a big help to me. I'm sure there are joeys because she has been suddenly interested in her pouch and when I took a picture of her chin I felt a bump in her stomach which could halve been the Joey. It may be hard to take pictures when they're sleeping because they curl up and their head faces down. Me and my dad are going to take them to the vet as soon as we can. We will also get the male a checkup to make sure he's doing okay too. I just hope my glider will be okay. |
Leela Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 01:10:34 PM
ok. Just need to ask questions to get the bigger picture and rule anything out we can....
She could be experiencing seizures of some kind.
Seizures are not uncommon but i've only experienced seizing when a glider is just about to pass and those are a bit different than this.
Sherri Lamb has a glider that has environmental stress seizures you could contact her n see what she thinks. https://www.facebook.com/sherri.saarinenlamb
For the jaw, keep trying to get pics of it, even try when she is sleeping i get some great facial pic close up when they are asleep in the pouch...
keep an eye on it for any swelling, and check over your cage and every thing in it very well for any rough spots or fur stuck to anything.
Also watch and see if her mate is grooming that area aggressively, it may be him that is doing it.
If swelling happens it's likely an abscess and she will need antibiotics, but bare in mind you need to confirm if she does indeed have joeys in pouch so the vet takes that into consideration before prescribing any meds or doing xrays. |
MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 12:55:01 PM
She isn't constipated. She hasn't made noise while walking in that position she will just do that and continue eating or playing. She basically acts active and normal that's the only thing besides her chin that's throws me off. Their nails are trimmed every one to two weeks.
I feed Critter Love complete. For snacks I feed papaya, mealworms, yogurt drops sometimes, and cantaloupe. |
Leela Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 12:46:19 PM
hm, does she get constipated? does she make any noises when walking like that? are her nails trimmed regularly?
what diet are you feeding, include everything please
snacks? also include everything please
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MollyAndOlivia Posted - Aug 06 2018 : 12:40:23 PM
She doesn't walk like this always. It's just random times at night or so. |
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