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Aug 31 2013
09:16:23 PM
someone asked me if dartanian was a pie bald? I thought he was a mosaic. What are your opinions?



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Aug 31 2013
09:31:11 PM
Minnesota Zoo Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit Minnesota Zoo's Photo Album USA 1999 Posts
I don't know what he is but he is stunningly gorgeous!

I have seen pics of Mosaics but not of a piebald but I'm sure someone on here will know...
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Aug 31 2013
09:51:55 PM
morganwelch Super Glider Visit morganwelch's Photo Album 300 Posts
I dont even know what a pie bald would look like. can anyone tell me?
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Aug 31 2013
10:01:14 PM
MoMo MaMa Face Hugger GliderMap Visit MoMo MaMa's Photo Album TX, USA 914 Posts
Piebald Sugar Gliders:


There is a phrase called "Piebald Marker" I believe. This means, a Glider shows piebald markings, but doesn't actually carry the gene. Similar to fool's gold. I looks like real gold, but isn't. I thought piebald is just another variation of mosaic like, ringtail, WFB, ringtail, etc? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong
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Aug 31 2013
10:02:33 PM
tsugie Super Glider Visit tsugie's Photo Album 370 Posts
I was going to say the same thing as Minnesota Zoo! XD
LOVE the fluffy white tail
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Aug 31 2013
10:03:45 PM
MoMo MaMa Face Hugger GliderMap Visit MoMo MaMa's Photo Album TX, USA 914 Posts
Pictures are from The Pet Glider website... I don't want to commit plagiarism
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Aug 31 2013
10:05:09 PM
MoMo MaMa Face Hugger GliderMap Visit MoMo MaMa's Photo Album TX, USA 914 Posts
Morgan, Piebalds are pretty rare and expensive to buy FYI. They definitely aren't the typical Glider.
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Aug 31 2013
10:08:43 PM
morganwelch Super Glider Visit morganwelch's Photo Album 300 Posts
Dar has a dark spot on the top of his left front leg. small but different from the rest of him
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Aug 31 2013
10:54:30 PM
MoMo MaMa Face Hugger GliderMap Visit MoMo MaMa's Photo Album TX, USA 914 Posts
Hmmm, im not really sure. Hopefully someone more experience under this category can help. On my first post i realized I listed ringtail twice. Te second one was suppose to say white tip tailed. Oops
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Sep 01 2013
03:19:50 AM
Minnesota Zoo Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit Minnesota Zoo's Photo Album USA 1999 Posts
I just watched a web cast of Glider talk and one of the speakers(from the pet glider)talked about Pied or piebald mosaics.

She was saying that a true piebald has 2 mosaic parents but if the glider has the "white splash markings" on a color coat they are "Piebald markers/traits"...if I got that right...and Piebald gliders have not produced piebald babies but they are still trying to see if they can get definitive results.

It was a Very interesting genetics discussion.

Edited by - Minnesota Zoo on Sep 01 2013 03:22:08 AM
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Sep 01 2013
11:17:47 AM
aalysonh Glider Visit aalysonh's Photo Album 114 Posts
Piebald is a mosaic variation. You do not have to have two mosaic parents to have a piebald sugar glider. This just comes sporadically. Though the chances of having a piebald joey will greaten if two mosaics are paired together.
I would definitely say that Dar is a piebald marker at the least. According to The Pet Glider, he would be a piebald. My Peter is a piebald marker, but he only has two spots on either side of his stripe, one is more noticeable than the other. The odd white on Dar's back is a piebald characteristic. It looks like a form of the "reverse stripe" which is said to be a marker. Any direct contrast in color on a mosaic besides a splash of white on their neck (which is very common) is abnormal for mosaics.
Also, the dark spot on his leg that you talked about is a piebald marker. I have been doing much research on them lately. There are not many piebalds around, but they can cost upwards of $2000. The Pet Glider has three piebald sugar gliders for sale on their website. If you look at their coloring, you could compare Dar's coloring to theirs.
Here's a pic of my Peter and his small piebald marks.
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Sep 01 2013
11:28:44 AM
BB Glider GliderMap Visit BB's Photo Album FL, USA 85 Posts
Is it just me that "laughed hysterically" at when it said, "here is a picture of my Peter and his small Piebald marks"? (my stomach hurts from laughing) I'm sorry, but it must have hit my funny bone just right. Beautiful Piebald, (if it is), though.
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Sep 01 2013
11:50:52 AM
sunglider Face Hugger Visit sunglider's Photo Album 669 Posts
You have a point. HA HA lol
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Sep 01 2013
12:06:43 PM
Tigerlily88 Face Hugger Visit Tigerlily88's Photo Album KY, USA 842 Posts
Aalysonh is correct, piebald is just a variation mosaic, it's like saying your glider is a silver mosaic, or a ringtail mosaic, still mosaic. In theory, any mosaic parent can produce one, there has just been a higher prevalence seen in certain lines, the exact inheritance is still being studied and not fully understood. What constitutes a piebald is also slightly debatable, different people will give you different answers. Personally, I would categorize Dartanian as having a "reverse stripe," which is essentially just having white where the black dorsal stripe would be. Some people would probably call that pied, some would not. Regardless, it is a very unique and striking marking, he's a handsome boy for sure.

Here is the link to Pricilla's page on the color:
The Pet Glider

As a side note, some of the more distinct piebalds have sold for somewhere in the range of $3500.
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Sep 01 2013
01:10:23 PM
aalysonh Glider Visit aalysonh's Photo Album 114 Posts
I'm sorry BB, but I must've missed what was so funny???
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