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Jan 03 2015
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I recently got my glider as a pet, he is 2 years old. I have taken major precautions with him. I did some research on them before, during, and im still researching any questions I have. When my glider was bought for me, he came with food, cage, toys, and bedding. They gave me hamster and gerbil food, which, upon research, he cant have. I went to my pet store and bought glider food. He now eats glider pellets (at night) and apples (during the day incase he wakes up.)His cage, bed, toys, and his bed rank of pee. So at night when he was most active, I washed all of his stuff. I ran hot water in my sink and when I put his hanging bed in there, the water turned brown! I washed it SOOOO many times. Even his wheel had pee and dried poop! They gave me bedding, which was cedar. I put it in there (I hadn't yet discovered gliders couldn't have wood shavings) but within that very same day, I came across a website that said cedar was toxic to them. I immediately dumped the wood bedding and used puppy pads until I could get paper bedding. I contacted the previous owner and she said that their pet store told them wood was okay to use. I made him a bunch of homemade toys (all he had was a poopy wheel and pee dried rings for babies.) He now gets new bedding about every 4 days, fresh fruits and veggies, water, and pee and poop free toys! IS there anything else I should do? Am I a good glider mommy? I hope so, I watch over him like a hawk watching field mice.
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Jan 04 2015
08:05:47 AM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
Well it's good that you found out hamster/gerbil food isn't good for them, However neither are glider pellets. At least they aren't good for their main diet, eating them for a long period of time can cause "lumpy jaw" and their fur to turn a brownish color when it should be grey. Giving them pellets as a snack is ok I believe a couple pellets here an there are good for their teeth.

But overall gliders NEED a nectar like staple for their main diet. Along with a variety of fruits and vegetables. There are many "approved" diets here to choose from, a member named Candy has a lot more knowledge and diet information than I do on hand. This food should be left in the cage over night and removed in the morning. Most of the time gliders don't wake up during the day for a snack on their own. They will wake up however and may need a snack in the bonding bag during the day.

It's great that he has a wheel, but considering they had you feeding him hamster food I'm a little worried the wheel he has may not be glider safe. Some hamster/gerbil wheels have led to a lot of injuries, broken tails and even deaths for sugar gliders. It would be helpful if you could post some pictures of whats in his cage.

Cedar is not good for them no, there are some safe woods but pine and cedar are not on the safe list. I don't use any type of bedding in my cage, gliders don't really need it and if they drop food then pick it up to eat it they may ingest the shredded bedding... For me it's easier to just skip bedding and tray liners and simply wipe the tray every day with a mild soap and vinegar mixture. That being said, my local rescue uses a crushed walnut shell bedding for her glider cages I believe she found it at petco. She has many cages to tend to where I only have the one so for her bedding is easier than wiping the trays everyday.

The smell.... is your glider intact? or has he been neutered? If he is intact he may have a very strong pungent odor. Getting him neutered will remove most of that odor! When they're neutered the scent gland on top of their will begin to "dry" up, his over smell will get better. Intact males will "mark" everything in their cage to make it all smell "like home" and to let others know he is the dominant male of that territory.

His bedding and fleece things probably did indeed need a good washing. But keep in mind "over cleaning" things in their cage can make an intact male "mark" everything even more to get his scent back on it. Best to use mild smelling or no scent soaps on bedding and pouches to prevent over marking.

Some other Important things to do is find a glider experienced vet in your area. Gliders can hide illnesses very well and considering he hasn't the best diet for 2 years you may want to take him in for a wellness check.

Nail clipping probably needs to be done as well. If his nails are to long he will get snagged and stuck on fleece etc potentially causing nail or toe injuries or worse.

Then of course you should really consider getting him a cage mate. Gliders thrive the best when they are at least in pairs. They can become lonely, depressed and even over groom and self mutilate. They are colony animals and should not live solitary lives, they need interaction with at least one other glider friend.

So far you've made some good adjustments to his living conditions, just a few more tweaks here an there and he should do very well. Your doing a good job, and keep up the research how big is his cage??



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Jan 04 2015
09:36:02 AM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
Welcome to the forum and to glider parenthood.

Sounds like you are off to a good start with your little guy.

If he is an intact male, most of the odor will come from his scent glands on his head and chest.

Cleaning up his pouch and cage environment will also help greatly.

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He now eats glider pellets (at night) and apples (during the day incase he wakes up.)His cage, bed, toys, and his bed rank of pee.


Another cause of glider odor is a poor diet. As Leela said, the pellets will not provide the nutrients he needs for long term health. He also needs a wide variety of fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables and a nectar like staple that will provide the protein, vitamins and calcium he needs daily.

I have links on my web page for a number of good feeding plans to help you locate the information on these feeding plans. My own GliderKids feeding plan is one of the options.

http://www.gliderkids-diet.com/Staple-Recipes.html


Your description of the dirty wheel makes me wonder what type of wheel he has. If it is a Wodent wheel (solid track and the front of the wheel has 3 or 4 'mouse hole' openings) It will hold all the pee and poop and continue to be a source of odor in the cage. It can also cause severe tail injuries because the center axle becomes sticky like fly paper and can snag glider tails causing broken tails and loss of fur or even skin. Many folks have re-purposed their wodent wheels as a glider toy box - removing the sand and placing the wheel on the floor of the cage with small toys inside for gliders to enjoy.

Here are the glider safe wheels you may want to look at for your glider:

Stealth Wheel http://atticworx.com/
Fast Track Wheel http://www.go fast track.com/spinzone.html
Raptor Wheel http://www.mygliderwheelsandmore.com/
Custom Cruiser Wheel http://customchoicecruiser.all4gliders.com/
H Wheel http://www.humbertossugargliders.com/hwheelv2.0.html




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Jan 04 2015
03:03:02 PM
dekovennicole Starting Member Visit dekovennicole's Photo Album 2 Posts
Thank you all for getting back to me. I will change his pellet diet. I am trying so hard to be the best glider mommy. I do not know if he is intact, I didn't know it could he a problem. I will ask the previous owner and take him to a vet for further examination. As for the glider mate, I'm working on it. I'm saving up my money to buy him another friend. He was by himself for 2 years, and I'm working so he'll have a friend. The wheel, as far as I've seen on google, is a glider wheel made for him. The cage is 4 foot tall and 3 feet wide and 3 feet long. I do not have a pet smart or pet co near me. I will do more research and contact local vets. Thank yall for helping me become a better glider mommy! :).
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