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The deal with raw, unfiltered honey
The deal with raw, unfiltered honey
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Jul 14 2012
09:40:05 PM
Why is this type of honey not recommended? We humans eat raw, unfiltered honey as a complete food. Pasturization means heating, right? Too much heat destroys the nutrients in raw honey. I eat organic raw honey from my local Srounts Farmers Market and it's wonderful stuff....there have never been any foreign particles or bee parts floating around in it....and I want to give my suggies the highest grade food possible.

Thank you for the info

Resa
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Jul 14 2012
09:50:10 PM
okusandman Face Hugger Visit okusandman's Photo Album 870 Posts
I was wondering the same. I buy locally collected honey from a beekeeper in my area because it's good for allergies.

In nature pollen is a lot of their diet, so it's confusing that filtered would be better for them.
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Jul 14 2012
09:53:53 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
I have been using raw honey from local beekeepers for years. I also buy locally produced bee pollen.

I feel these products are fresher than the pasturized honey that has been packaged shipped and stored before arriving on the grocery store shelves.

Raw honey is fine as long as it does not contain honey comb pieces.
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Jul 14 2012
09:58:01 PM
BuzzAndJessie Glider GliderMap Visit BuzzAndJessie's Photo Album USA 152 Posts
Raw honey can have bacteria and parasites. Pasteurized honey has been...well...pasteurized. It limits your sugar gliders potential exposure to bacterial infections and parasites. However, I agree that raw honey is a better source of nutrients. Just make sure you know the beekeepers and where the honey is coming from, and it's probably fine.
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Jul 14 2012
10:03:33 PM
okusandman Face Hugger Visit okusandman's Photo Album 870 Posts
Good enough for me. I don't get the honey comb anyway :P
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Jul 14 2012
10:10:40 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
Honey actually has antibacterial properties not found in other 'sweet' products. It lasts for years and does not ferment as other sugar containing liquids will.

I have never heard of any parasites that are found in honey. Do you have any information to support that statement.
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Jul 14 2012
10:14:57 PM
okusandman Face Hugger Visit okusandman's Photo Album 870 Posts
Maybe it's just if the beekeeper is unsanitary?
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Jul 14 2012
11:42:44 PM
ResaJane Face Hugger Visit ResaJane's Photo Album 411 Posts
Okay, I'm glad I'm not he only one lol. I buy the organic kind...natural kind, whichever it is lol...i found a new brand today at Sprouts Farmers Marjet and it's from New Zealand of all places. I also found a honey called Acacia honey from the Himalayas....hmmmm.

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Jul 16 2012
08:04:35 AM
JRMMJONES Face Hugger GliderMap Visit JRMMJONES's Photo Album USA 405 Posts
I use locally produced raw honey. I've not had any problems. My children have been eating this honey since they were around 9 months old. 1 tsp a day, to help with allergies.
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Jul 16 2012
11:05:18 AM
BuzzAndJessie Glider GliderMap Visit BuzzAndJessie's Photo Album USA 152 Posts
On Bacteria: kidshealth.org/parent/pregnancy_newborn/feeding/honey_botulism.html

On Parasites: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseases_of_the_honey_bee

Honey bees can get parasites just like mammals. If the honey bee has the parasite and the beekeeper is lazy, it would make sense that the parasite would end up in the honey. While cross-species contamination seems relatively low, in most cases, from insect to mammal, I, for one, would prefer not to take what I consider to be an unnecessary risk. Therefore, I meet my beekeeper if I'm going to use raw honey, or I buy pasteurized honey from the grocery store.
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Jul 16 2012
11:26:16 AM
LuckyGlider Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit LuckyGlider's Photo Album LuckyGlider's Journal TX, USA 5266 Posts
The deal with raw, unfiltered honey is it can have small bits of wax, dirt, or other impurities in it. If you put it through a sieve, you can filter out the wax and other particles.

Honey does have natural anti-microbial features.

Honey has been used for centuries as a salve for open wounds to keep major infection at bay.

At our rescue, we have used hydrotherapy and honey treatments on open wounds for many years and it is highly effective. All under vet's orders.

But when it comes to feeding honey, we prefer the filtered kind so the gliders are not ingesting wax or other foreign particles.

At the store:

Raw, unfiltered honey is typically labeled as such
Filtered honey is either labeled as "filtered" or has no labeling
Local honey is typically advertised as being local honey.
Pasteurized honey will have a label that says so.

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Jul 16 2012
12:00:03 PM
ResaJane Face Hugger Visit ResaJane's Photo Album 411 Posts
LG...that's what I read too...about the foreign bits possibly being in the unfiltered kind so I've been checking it every time I use it. I prefer the benefits of the raw versus pasteurized....and for some reason my gliders prefer the taste is it more lol.

Resa
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Jul 16 2012
12:25:35 PM
Candy Cuddle Bear Visit Candy's Photo Album FL, USA 8110 Posts
ResaJane - I do not think pasturized honey tastes any different than the same honey that has not been processed.

The difference in honey flavor is in the flowers used by the bees gathering the nectar.

I had a chance to taste test several different honeys recently. The flavor also varies by season. Lighter colored honey is produced in spring and summer from flower blooms, darker colored honey is produced in fall and winter when other plants are blooming.

The Spring honey is lightest and the sweetest, winter is the darkest and the least sweet.

Clover is the most common grocery store honey.

My gliders seem to prefer Orange Blossom honey - when I cannot get that I buy Wild Flower.

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Jul 16 2012
12:54:34 PM
angelmom Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Visit angelmom's Photo Album USA 2002 Posts
My rule for honey-

If I can get it locally it can be raw
If I have to buy the name brand at the store it has to be pasteurized.
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Jul 16 2012
12:57:53 PM
ResaJane Face Hugger Visit ResaJane's Photo Album 411 Posts
Ah, that's good info to know and it does make sense too. I usually use a local raw honey I get at the farmers market on my way home from work but this week I neglected to stop there and realized I was out of honey lol. I grabbed a honey from the grocery store and assumed it tasted different bc it was not raw unfiltered lol...it was almost sickly sweet so I cut down the amount I put in. My gliders aren't VERY picky but they don't like ”rot your teeth overnight” sweet and they don't like ”not sweet enough” lol.

Right now I have four different types of honey at home lol. One is pasteurized and three are raw and unfiltered/uncooked. Of the raw kind one is Acacia honey from the Himalayas which tastes just like the honey we get in those bear shaped bottles. One is a honey harvested in New Zealand and it's the most like my local honey in texture....cloudy and a little crystallized. The other one is a honey I found at a farmers market near my house and it's labeled wild flower but it's not cloudy and crystallized. It does taste a little different. My gliders like all but the pasteurized kind I have.

Resa
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Jul 16 2012
05:23:40 PM
nanny Glider Visit nanny's Photo Album 184 Posts
i have always bought raw, organic honey with no problems. i use organic honey for my gliders hpw plus though. easier to blend and measure than my raw honey.

regards,
nancy in detroit
The deal with raw, unfiltered honey

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