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Apr 06 2015
09:57:05 AM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Haha, I just looked at him in his pouch and tried to take a hand or back leg and he just pulled back and unfortunately - he's wide awake and just isn't having it. My glider won't sleep in my bra. I suppose I could put him in there and see what happens.

When I used to have the insert, it would trim down their claws pretty well. At least, there was a difference in how it felt when they ran on me. At the moment, I have tiny scratches on my hands and shoulders. My boy runs on his wheel ALL THE TIME. I'm really anxious to get the Raptor so he can get running again.

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Apr 06 2015
10:21:49 AM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
lol it can be a struggle believe me I know both of mine like the bra, Simon likes to be in a small pouch in my bra, that might help your Moose. Leela doesn't care either way as long as she is on me lol.

Simon was neutered a week before we got him, he had a lazer neuter done with Pom off. He was literally back to normal the next day with no issues.

Others have had complications but I don't think they are as common now as more vets are getting more experienced with them. There are 2 kinds of neutering procedures 1 is lazer, pom off and the other is the traditional incision neuter. For the lazer surgery the sperm can live up to one week after the procedure, for traditional it's two weeks for the sperm to die off.

I'm inquiring about vets in your area from a glider guardian group on facebook to see if there are any good ones near you...
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Apr 06 2015
10:26:39 AM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Thank you so much! I'm just really worried about something happening to my boy after surgery.
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Apr 06 2015
10:33:28 AM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
there is also a vet consultation for other vets, that may be an option. Basically there is a group of vets willing to help other glider inexperienced vets with procedures like this. You can't call them yourself, but other vets can if they are willing too. I'l have to look up the link though I don't have it right on hand....

It's ok to be worried about having it done, that just shows how much you care frankly I would be the same way lol luckily for me the rescue we adopted Simon from took care of the neutering, if it were closer to you I would suggest that vet, they are very experienced and reasonable! they are in fort myers fla though which is a little far for you to travel...
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Apr 06 2015
12:17:24 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
from Christena Blue
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I'm in north ga and needed a vet for my baby. I looked around online for one after having a bum experience in my local city. I ended up going to Loving hands animal clinic in Alpharetta ga. I cannot express enough how perfectly AWESOME & loving and Sooo worth any drive. I'm like a 40 min drive one way. I'll gladly drive that distance for my babes. This vet was so tender and helpful, they were listed online as having glider experience and also of course as an exotics vet. She didn't try to bleed my bank account dry for the services either. Doctor Jojo was the best. Love her. Tell her Rose's momma sent ya

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Apr 06 2015
01:20:25 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
This is really stressing EVERYONE out. Haha! My boyfriend is insisting we hold on neutering him and get a glider and see how it works out and if he needs to be neutered, we'll cross that bridge. It seems like though, we have no choice but to get him neutered. I don't want him to hurt another glider or for a glider to hurt him. But technically, with more time, would he eventually accept another male even though he isn't neutered? I picked up my dogs from the vet in town today and asked my vet again who she recommended and once again, they said Northwood Animal Hospital.

I'll look up Loving Hands now. Thank you!


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Apr 06 2015
01:35:53 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
Understandably so but truly it's probably your best choice to help him get along with another glider.

If you wait and get another glider before Moose is neutered you will want to get another male, preferably already neutered. Otherwise they will likely breed if you get a female. Which again will lead to possible offspring needing neutered anyways or separated from his parents before he reaches 4 months old to prevent breeding with his mother. If the offspring is a female she will also need separated from the father or the father would need neutered.

They may do ok if Moose isn't neutered, and another male is neutered, it's just a greater chance of them getting along better if they are both neutered prior to introductions.

There are many ways this could go, and I understand the hesitation on getting him neutered but the scenarios above are what you are facing if you get a female for a cage mate.

And if you get a male, they may not get along at all, until both are neutered and their hormone levels are reduced.

I don't want you to feel pressured, but you should be informed is all. In the end the choice of course is yours and you will have our support and continued advice if you should need it.

Introducing gliders is already stressful enough, watching signs of depression only adds to that. If you do end up getting another male, be advised that even if they do get a long for a long time, if you ever bring a female glider in to your family that could cause some fighting with the boys, even if the female isn't in the same cage as them.

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Apr 06 2015
01:59:22 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
I have to share in my excitement and after taking a deep breath of relief, that it turns out when we got the gliders, they were neutered. My boyfriend doesn't tend to ask many questions so when I asked him in they were neutered he said 'no'. But he just pulled up the old email and the people he got them from claims they're both neutered. Granted, some people say it and it turns out not to be true... nonetheless, hearing this makes me SO happy and I'm not so stressed out about it at least for now. I've contacted a few people about a glider and one got back to me and said he was re-homed. Happy for the glider, sad for us!

Does anyone know of a site that people gather at to sell their unwanted gliders or a rescue? I'd like to get one this week since I'm out of school and I'm okay with driving 4-5 hours at the most.

I'm not going to bother with getting a female because I don't want to complicate things. I'd like to find someone who has a single male since it'd be benefiting both Moose and the new glider. I've been avoiding people that are selling two but will allow them to be separated. I wouldn't want to separate two bonded sugar gliders.

Considering pairs though, if I got a pair of boys that are neutered I would assume the two are bonded. Would it be a problem introducing them to a single glider? Getting a pair would be a last resort but I'm just curious. I've heard they prefer groups of 5-7 or something along those lines, at least in a cage. Maybe this isn't true. I'm not sure.

Today I've held Moose in the bonding pouch for a few hours but put him back in his pouch in the cage when he started pushing against the zipper. I feel bad about him being so alone and just wish I could snuggle up with him at night. Haha, if only he were so cooperative!
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Apr 06 2015
02:06:11 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
Phewwwwwwww!! well that will help things considerably I don't have any experience with all boy colonies, but I know many others have successfully bonded 2-4 neutered males with no trouble. It really depends on the gliders themselves though on how it would go.

Personally I would like 2 girl and a boy or 2 boy and a girl trios, but my boyfriend thinks it would cause problems lol I will keep an eye out for some for you though
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Apr 06 2015
02:13:20 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Also, I called three places just a few minutes ago.

Loving Hands, Northwood & Mahan.

Mahan said they don't see gliders which is a little concerning since someone referred me to a vet there. Strange.

Northwood immediately said they saw gliders and the girl was new so she couldn't provide too much info when I asked if they neutered them and how much it would cost.
(Granted, this doesn't matter much now if they are already neutered). I will probably call them back and make an appointment or wait until they call me back with info.

Loving Hands was really expensive and said they have one day a week when a vet will come in and said she takes an interest in them but doesn't necessarily specialize. She couldn't tell me much about a success rate or how much it would cost. She said it's case by case. So, she is supposed to call me back, but I'm not feeling too confident with them.

Northwood was actually really helpful and cooperative, so I will likely try an annual over there.

Also, is there a way the vet will be able to tell if Moose is actually neutered?
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Apr 06 2015
02:15:13 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
They wouldn't fight over the girl? I figured that would cause problems as well.
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Apr 06 2015
02:18:35 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
Usually if neutered, the scent gland on top of their head will be filled in (with hair ). If they are intact they will have a noticeable bald spot. They will usually smell pungent if intact.

And if you can hold him yeh I know lol, but if you can and he has the pom on you can touch it, if it feels "deflated" he is probably neutered, if it feels "full" or "firm" he is intact. If he doesn't have Pom at all he is neutered.
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Apr 06 2015
02:19:48 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
No, not if both males are neutered there shouldn't be a problem
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Apr 06 2015
02:21:16 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
I emailed one of those listings to see if the boys are neutered. I surely hope so because they're so cute! I just personally don't want to deal with getting any neutered myself. I stress and worry about it too much
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Apr 06 2015
02:23:03 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
Intact


Neutered


Neutered ( these are mine Simon is on top and his bald spot is filled in as it will get)


Edited by - Leela on Apr 06 2015 02:25:00 PM
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Apr 06 2015
02:26:00 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Mine doesn't have that on his head at all. I guess he's neutered. Whew! Thank GOODNESS.
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Apr 06 2015
02:29:40 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
all that worry n stress for nuthin

You can sometimes ask breeders to have them neutered for you, just make sure you get the paper work that it's been done so your not getting scammed.
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Apr 06 2015
02:32:17 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Do you think he would do well with a baby? I've never had one before.
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Apr 06 2015
02:37:07 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
Probably, but with joeys you want to wait until they are about the same size or as close to the same as you can. If one is comparably bigger than the other if they fight the little one could get tore up.

However, having said that my male is twice the size and weight of my female and they did just fine! Simon my male is 4 yrs old, me female is almost 1 yr old. Their introduction took about a half an hour, they have been together ever since.

The joey will take to Moose probably easier than Moose will to the joey, but Moose may take to any glider instantly because he is alone now, honestly you just never know until you introduce them.
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Apr 06 2015
02:39:13 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
sounds good. thanks! would you recommend any sites other than craigslist for gliders?
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Apr 06 2015
02:45:55 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
If your open to gliders in need of rehoming https://www.facebook.com/groups/sugargliderguardians/

this group is excellent! many of the gliders posted are from craigslist, others are posted by the owner needing to rehome them. Many of these folks buy craigslist gliders in desperate need of a better home, then rehab them and socialize them some before adopting them out again to experienced glider owners. You can also post your own situation there and let them know you are looking for a single/pair of gliders in the areas you are willing to drive, If anyone has one or two available they will comment on your post or tag someone in those areas.

my name is carla sloan on facebook, if you go to that group you will likely see my profile

Edited by - Leela on Apr 06 2015 02:47:38 PM
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Apr 06 2015
02:53:53 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
I just sent a request to join the group. I guess I'll be accepted soon and ask. :) I'll keep an eye open! Mine is Ashton Leik.
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Apr 06 2015
04:45:59 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
As long as Moose is neutered, it's okay to get a girl. Right?
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Apr 06 2015
04:47:45 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
yes Maam
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Apr 06 2015
04:49:20 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Another thing I'm curious about is when I got my first two sugar gliders, Bear and Moose, they were on the BML plan and Moose is still on the plan. Some people are selling their gliders with bagged food. Should I look specifically for those on the BML plan? I've heard there is a process to switching diets.
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Apr 06 2015
05:03:32 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
no, there is no process in switching their food. It may take a day or two for the new glider to eat it well, but that is normal anytime you change their diet. I will say, some gliders do ok on bml for a while, then stop eating it. Mine won't touch it so I had to change to a different staple.

A lot of people on the fb groups are finding the same thing with their gliders. I think it's partly due to being so restrictive with the fruits and veg, and I think it just has to much calcium and their bodies are telling them it doesn't need it. bml has one of the highest calcium to phos ratio's of all the diets and relies on the fruits and veg to balance it out. Just my personal opinion... If Moose eats it stick with it until they don't eat it anymore...
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Apr 06 2015
05:24:17 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
I've been on it because I thought it was the best diet for him. It's what he was already on anyway. What would you advise to be the best diet? I was looking for something that would be most effective since my sugar gliders are so picky about fruits and veggies... and meal worms. haha!
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Apr 06 2015
05:30:54 PM
Leela Goofy Gorillatoes Gliderpedia Editor Visit Leela's Photo Album Leela's Journal 2919 Posts
It's not a bad diet, unless they won't eat it, then it does them no good.

If you are constantly scraping it off their food dishes and throwing out more than they eat then it's time to change diets. Until then If Moose eats it all gone I would keep him on it and see if the new one will eat it too.

There really is no "best" diet the best diet is one they will eat... a few folks are changing to the highlands diet, which I'm not convinced is a great diet but their gliders are eating it. On that one I don't think there is enough calcium, and it has vegetable oil in the recipe which I don't feel is necessary on a daily basis either.
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Apr 06 2015
09:33:55 PM
laraashton Joey Visit laraashton's Photo Album laraashton's Journal 43 Posts
Fair enough. :)

Earlier, we talked about toys for Moose so just an update:

I made a mesh shelf that I actually found online and put a couple straws through it. He came out and ran around on top of it, trying to take the straws out. Once he stood around there for a while, he got under it and hung upside down trying to get the straws.

I was going to make more but after seeing how stimulated and excited he is, I think I'm going to just hold off and make something every couple days or so then maybe start adding things, like the easter eggs, or some bracelets or something. I'm trying to organize it out so that he's stimulated up until getting a new cagemate. Then they can enjoy the new toys together (hopefully).
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