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May 29 2007
12:55:47 PM
tootles Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap tootles's Journal 1981 Posts
I think everyone who posts here spends some quality time with thier little guys or they would not waste their time posting here!! Just my 2 cents though!!
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May 29 2007
01:02:53 PM
Booky Joey 21 Posts
Dear Mel,

I would encourage you to read your own post again.

you use words like I am too scared, I am too worried, etc... this is indicative of your personality type. You should never try to do anything new or exciting with your glider because you, not the glider would be the one freaking out way too much and then would cause the glider to be nervous.

You are right, you could never do this with your glider because of your personality type. Please dont treat new glider owners as though they are like you. we all are different, and as someone else said everyone can come to this post and get all kinds of opinions on everthing. they should decide what is best for them, and yes, you do have some people who are just stupid or crazy and will kill some glider because of their behavior, but this is happening everyday, why do you think so many gliders are up for adoption? because some owners who did not know what they were getting into,not to say that all adoptions are for this reason, but people are going to do what they want. so just relax everything will be ok.
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May 29 2007
01:10:21 PM
Ahsaehr Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Ahsaehr's Photo Album Ahsaehr's Journal USA 3478 Posts
I agree with tootles. If we didn't play or care for our gliders we wouldn't be here. I have been in chat hundreds of times and had people stop in mid-conversation and say, "Hey it's 6:00 it's time for me to go play with my babies!" and come back a couple hours later and stop again around 9:00 to go feed them.

Maybe we shouldn't assume things like that but since we are I'm going to assume that this person who puts their glider in water started doing so without knowing the possible risks. Chills, pneumonia, drowning are just some of whats listed, but what about the phsycological risks? This glider is going to start thinking that every time I'm around it's going to get dumped in water.

Perhaps having Neo and his health issues have given me a better understanding than what I did have of gliders and animals in general but Neo didn't like having the collar on but after the first month he stopped fighting it and just let us put it on him, by this time he was so used to the collar that he tolerated it. How awful for him! Then whenever it was off for a week when we put it back on him (since he was making the self mutilating noise but not actually self mutilating we were worried he would) he fought it like crazy. He thrashed and bit and flopped around once it was on. It's just animal nature, and one humans have as well. If a human were inprisoned and learned that every time a certain person came into the area that human would be slapped in the face or something the human would stop fighting it after a while. It's a sort of habit.

I wonder if this glider 'loves' it or if it is in a habit of being thrown in a sink.
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May 29 2007
01:14:31 PM
Ahsaehr Goofy Gorillatoes GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Ahsaehr's Photo Album Ahsaehr's Journal USA 3478 Posts
quote:
Originally posted by Booky

Dear Mel,

I would encourage you to read your own post again.

you use words like I am too scared, I am too worried, etc... this is indicative of your personality type. You should never try to do anything new or exciting with your glider because you, not the glider would be the one freaking out way too much and then would cause the glider to be nervous.

You are right, you could never do this with your glider because of your personality type. Please dont treat new glider owners as though they are like you. we all are different, and as someone else said everyone can come to this post and get all kinds of opinions on everthing. they should decide what is best for them, and yes, you do have some people who are just stupid or crazy and will kill some glider because of their behavior, but this is happening everyday, why do you think so many gliders are up for adoption? because some owners who did not know what they were getting into,not to say that all adoptions are for this reason, but people are going to do what they want. so just relax everything will be ok.



booky, it seems to me you just don't consider the consequences. In the same way you say you do something "new and exciting" is what people who kill innocent bystanders say before a massacre. Columbine, Virginia Tech, Tennemin square- all that was "new and exciting" to the people who created the tragedy.
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May 29 2007
01:28:30 PM
mel Goofy Gorillatoes Visit mel's Photo Album mel's Journal TX, USA 2464 Posts
Well I suppose you are speaking to both Mel and Mel2mdl since you are referring to both our comments. So you may want to define her personality seperate from mine. I'm sorry you are taking the concerns of the posts so personally. I do NOT think I insulted you but was alerted to the possible risk. If I directly insulted you I am sorry but I don't see it. However YOU are directly insulting both Mels. What does that say about your personality? When you hang out long enough you will see for yourself the unresearched, extremest, teens and children who post frequently. Threads should be able to be discussed wgen legit concerns arise without attack or insult. This is too bad.

www.sugarglider.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=5&Number=300572&Searchpage=1&Main=29493&Words=&topic=0&Search=true#Post300572

Ashaer you have learned quickly through your experience just as rescuers and rehabilitators and those who experience the tragedies do.
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May 29 2007
04:07:52 PM
Rita Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Rita's Photo Album Rita's Journal MO, USA 12214 Posts
Booky - We have all been in the hot seat at one time or another. Some people who come here are not opened minded and things must be their way or no way at all. Those are generally the people who personally attack and are very argumentative. They are not usually open to anything new.

Others who have posted against what you said is due to having gliders who are or have been very ill. They have worked very hard to overcome their gliders health risks and are protective and not willing to take any chances with their babies. This is very understandable.
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May 29 2007
04:30:57 PM
tootles Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap tootles's Journal 1981 Posts
You must remember you posted this and you were open for comments and asked if it was safe and you asked for our comments. If you take the comments to peronal and if they upset you then don't ask for others here to post comments. This board has always been truthful here and that is the type of comments you got. NO everyone will not agree with you but you asked for our comments didn't you?? That's what I see at the bottom of your post. You said can anyone else tell me if they bath their animals and how they react to water and if this is safe for my pet??? You got the comments you asked for they are peoples opinions from their experience that you asked for!!

Edited by - tootles on May 29 2007 04:32:49 PM
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May 29 2007
04:33:17 PM
mel Goofy Gorillatoes Visit mel's Photo Album mel's Journal TX, USA 2464 Posts
Rita, Booky is NOT in the hot seat. The ONLY time this person was personally addressed is when this person personally attacked. You talk about drama!
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May 29 2007
04:40:18 PM
tootles Fuzzy Wuzzy GliderMap tootles's Journal 1981 Posts
like I said in my post before Mel's latest post. Booky asked us what we thought and asked for reply's so when you ask don't be offended when others don't agree. Not everyone sees everything the same. But in my opinion booky has no right to be offended when you asked for our thoughts on this matter. You take the good comments the bad comments then you make your own decision.

Edited by - tootles on May 29 2007 04:41:46 PM
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