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Sep 19 2007
06:34:23 AM
I was wondering how to tell if a rescue is the real deal or not...Why I am asking is I have a cage that I was wanting to donate and I found a local rescue but not for sure about them. It's called the Central Florida Sugar glider rescue.The only thing that I thought was odd is they have a post to buy gliders.Do rescues buy sugar gliders?
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Sep 19 2007
07:01:06 AM
AngieH Face Hugger GliderMap Visit AngieH's Photo Album 934 Posts
We don't often buy gliders that we rescue, but we have done so on rare occurances. For examle, the 24 gram baby that was being sold. We offered her less than she was wanting and she took it probably to get me out of the store as I was causing a scene. I know of the business you speak about and they are not non-profit but I don't have much information on them to offer you. I would encourage you to look for a rescue that is non-profit or in the process of getting that filed, as we are. Non-profits have bylaws and operating standards and laws they must follow in order to operate legally. I want to thank you for helping the gliders, so many rescues are in need and a cage would be really appreciated by the rescue homes you choose.
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Sep 19 2007
04:17:25 PM
doitall48 Super Glider MO, USA 237 Posts
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Originally posted by AngieH

We don't often buy gliders that we rescue, but we have done so on rare occurances. For examle, the 24 gram baby that was being sold. We offered her less than she was wanting and she took it probably to get me out of the store as I was causing a scene. I know of the business you speak about and they are not non-profit but I don't have much information on them to offer you. I would encourage you to look for a rescue that is non-profit or in the process of getting that filed, as we are. Non-profits have bylaws and operating standards and laws they must follow in order to operate legally. I want to thank you for helping the gliders, so many rescues are in need and a cage would be really appreciated by the rescue homes you choose.

is there a list of resceues that we can goto?
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Sep 19 2007
04:28:00 PM
kazko Little Bunny FooFoo GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kazko's Photo Album kazko's Journal TX, USA 6747 Posts
When you purchase a glider from a store or breeder, it gets replaced by another one yanked from mommy. A rescuer should not purchase an animal. Some have to suffer, there is no other way.
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Sep 19 2007
05:30:28 PM
AngieH Face Hugger GliderMap Visit AngieH's Photo Album 934 Posts
I don't know of a list, perhaps others will help. The only ones I am familar with is Kissed's rescue and our's. If anyone else knows of any please let us know.
Sadly, we know that we can't save them all, but we save the ones we can. Life is not fair to these creatures or other animals. They are a business for many people, and bring them lots of money. Until the world changes, laws change and people change, I don't see an end to the suffering.
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Sep 19 2007
11:59:19 PM
tammyangel Glider Visit tammyangel's Photo Album USA 137 Posts
You can go to www.sugarglider.net and they have places with the people who do rescues and also if they arent close enough they will help find one if that helps you and alot of people pay for rescues because of the situation they are in I have in the past and usually when you rescue they are in a very bad surrounding Ive never seen any in a pet store in our area but I have gotten a few that anyone would have rescued I had a female that was actually living in a shoe box in a old sock and a little hamster hut she was soaked in her own urine and no water or food the lady just thought she was to much work she was one of those who didnt do any research before she got one.
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Sep 20 2007
06:04:33 AM
mel2mdl Face Hugger GliderMap 407 Posts
If this is the one I'm thinking of, they are not a good rescue. Search other glider sites for them. If I remember correctly, they troll for free gliders and breed and sell rescues.

I won't swear by this though. I would email John with Xtreme gliders - he is in that area. You can PM on glider central or email via his website - which is posted here somewhere.
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Sep 20 2007
01:59:38 PM
LuckyGlider Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit LuckyGlider's Photo Album LuckyGlider's Journal TX, USA 5266 Posts
I recently sent a "retirement program" letter to a mill breeder in the southeast. They kill ill-behaved gliders, ones that can't breed anymore and ones that bite. Essentially we are offering a 'retirement' home for gliders who would otherwise be destroyed. I have been told by others that this is an old and bad idea because it "clears the conscience" of the mill breeder and they just keep cranking them out. That new laws are the way to change this. My less sophisitcated and short-term view is those gliders they kill have just as much right to be rescued as the "more desirable" ones that can be re-homed by a more traditional rescue. So while some of us have more "absolute rules" as to "don't buy them" or "don't clear any consciences" etc. I think if you have it in you to rescue animals and donate your time, money and effort to do so, don't be discouraged by all the "rules." Be informed, yes, but let your own heart be your guide, not someone elses.

I for one do believe tohgher laws would help. At present mill operators are within their full legal right to destroy an animal for whatever reason - so long as it is done humanely. I for one am not going to hold my breath for laws to change - assuming of course they would be enforced afterwards anyway - and sit by while hundreds and thousands of gliders die needless deaths.

The ethical and moral ramifications of both breeding and rescue are very complicated. I don't think any one of us has all the answers.
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Sep 20 2007
02:13:27 PM
mel2mdl Face Hugger GliderMap 407 Posts
LuckyGlider - my wording was bad. I meant they take in free gliders and then sell them at breeder prices. Not a 'rehome' fee or anything. Also, I don't think there is any debate that you do not breed rescues. Most seem to agree on that! :)

Again, I'm not sure if this is the same group or not. Since it is in Florida, I would check with John from Xtreme Gliders. You can PM him on Glider Central. He is pretty up to date on the status of rescue groups in his area.
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Sep 20 2007
02:19:13 PM
mel Goofy Gorillatoes Visit mel's Photo Album mel's Journal TX, USA 2464 Posts
Is this anything to do with LIZ912 from awhile back?
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Sep 20 2007
09:10:12 PM
LuckyGlider Zippy Glidershorts GliderMap Visit LuckyGlider's Photo Album LuckyGlider's Journal TX, USA 5266 Posts
molly I was just telling the story of how different folks seem to have personal "rules" on what constitutes a "rescue" and and telling about how people have told me there are complicated ramifications of rescue. I didn't mean to imply you had confused me or anything - just sharing how confusing it all can be. Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Yes, of course, taking in gliders under the aegis of 'rescue' and then selling them as a purely commercial venture "out the back door" seems unethical to me... It is kind of a violation of the trust you have with real rescue operations... But I was not alluding to that in my post - more the difference between regular rescue of re-homable animals vs. the "retirement" rescue of ones that are too sick or undesirable to rehome...
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Sep 21 2007
07:33:55 AM
jacknsally Super Glider GliderMap TX, USA 285 Posts
Central Florida & Liz912 are not the same people. There have been other rescue homes in contact with Central FL to see how legit they are. I don't think the personal one on one has been accomplished yet but there have been phone conversations.

Supposedly they are willing to learn and change a few of their not safe glider practices but one cannot be sure they actually have. Can't speak on their rescue efforts though it does look like a looking to profit rescue. They advertise all over hoobly and other sites about taking in rescues & donations of supplies & such.
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