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Jun 30 2012
02:23:54 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
My daughter decided to step up and try to help. Since we also already do the text free driving thumbbands, we just used that source to create and order wristbands to help her take the initiative to support our state. Until www.ColoradoStrong.com finishes processing, you can use http://coloradostrong.blogspot.com/ and/or www.Facebook.com/ColoradoStrong . Feel free to use it to order wristbands or just simply join the Facebook page and support that way as well. If you'd like to help out in other ways, also check out www.helpcoloradonow.org

She started the Facebook page yesterday and has amazing response and a mention on our local news station. Pretty cool!
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Jun 30 2012
08:35:45 AM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
I absolutely LOVE this idea and I love that Taylor chose The Firefighter Fund and the people that lost their homes to donate proceeds to. Those are two FABULOUS places to allocate the funds. I am so very proud of her creativity and innovation. I just drafted up an email to send off with this information to the people I know and work with in CO and other places. I hope this helps!
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Jun 30 2012
08:37:13 AM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
To order now (since we know they are on pre-order) do we just message her...then paypal? I just want to make sure I am giving good directions. I don't see a link to order on the blogspot. Still reading...I will try to figure it out.
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Jun 30 2012
09:28:35 AM
Catman Goose Catcher GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Catman's Photo Album CO, USA 2670 Posts
Some serious time-lapse video of the fire.

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Jun 30 2012
10:01:17 AM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
Almost looks like the fire is burning itself out? Thanks for the video Scott.
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Jun 30 2012
10:16:58 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Kim, there should be a link on there. The site has 3 tabs. It should be accessible on the third tab or on the main page if you click the picture of the wristband. Let me know if that doesn't work!

I watched that yesterday. Pretty intense! I missed the news conference this morning but looks like we might be at 30%?
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Jun 30 2012
10:36:38 AM
Catman Goose Catcher GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Catman's Photo Album CO, USA 2670 Posts
We got 0 wildlife calls from the fire, ZERO! I have talked to rehabbers from all over the state and they also got 0! Our lovely DOW doesn't even mention the fire on their website, how sad. http://wildlife.state.co.us/Pages/Home.aspx

This show exactly how disconnected the DOW is with our community!

Edited by - Catman on Jun 30 2012 10:38:48 AM
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Jun 30 2012
11:18:40 AM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
I know Scot but I guess we all have to look at it from the human perspective. Human loss is far more important the wildlife loss. To you and us, this just isn't right but it is what it is. No calls probably means nobody is in harms way to make the calls. Maybe get ahead of the fire and look for those needing rescue.
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We got 0 wildlife calls from the fire, ZERO! I have talked to rehabbers from all over the state and they also got 0! Our lovely DOW doesn't even mention the fire on their website, how sad. http://wildlife.state.co.us/Pages/Home.aspx

This show exactly how disconnected the DOW is with our community!

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Jun 30 2012
11:20:04 AM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
contained?
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Kim, there should be a link on there. The site has 3 tabs. It should be accessible on the third tab or on the main page if you click the picture of the wristband. Let me know if that doesn't work!

I watched that yesterday. Pretty intense! I missed the news conference this morning but looks like we might be at 30%?

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Jun 30 2012
11:55:45 AM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
It worked Kylah! I placed an initial order in for everyone in my house and now I am thinking about how many people in CO that I know. I am sending them the information first...hoping they will order and want to buy "more" for family and friends. If not, I am going to get a tally going and see if I can get ADP to spring for a "gift" to our office there. I don't know if it will work or not...but it's worth a shot!

On the wildlife side - Scott - I wonder if they are overwhelmed? Maybe they haven't even thought of you guys. I mean...they SHOULD have. I would get a few rehabbers together and see if you guys can kind of shove resources down their throat. If I was in DOW, I would be leveraging everyone I can. I can't imagine there are no wildlife in need right now and I hate to think the ones they are getting are "put down" due to lack of care options. That would kill me.

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Jun 30 2012
02:24:52 PM
Catman Goose Catcher GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Catman's Photo Album CO, USA 2670 Posts
DoubleBogey ,nope they are not overwhelmed with rescues, phone call maybe , but not rescues. The DOW rarely rescues anything (thats not their JOB)and they depend solely on volunteers for rescue,transport and rehab....and we are just waiting!! They would much rather NOT have wildlife rescue and rehab in this state since there is no money to be made from it.They are not euthanizing anything (unless its a moose that wonders into town and they over sedate them :( ) but choose to let nature take its course and leave the animals to die.

When things cool down here a little bit, I'm going to contact the fire department and see if we can start some kind of volunteer wildlife disaster rescue team. I'm sure that the fire crews are coming across injured/orphaned wildlife but can't do a thing about it.
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Jun 30 2012
03:35:12 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
That's messed up Scott. All of it. Do you bump elbows with DOW often or have contacts with them?
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Jun 30 2012
03:38:01 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
I'll be honest with you - I kind of imagined that they would need a wildlife triage area due to the volume. I can't comprehend no animal needs help. I mean..you have wildlife all over people's lawns completely displaced. Some of them are guaranteed to have injuries. Is there anyway for you guys to have your information out there for regular citizens to see the information and call into the rehabbers? I almost wonder if that is the best hope for them now. People are going back to their homes. They are bound to find animals in need and I hope that most people would care enough to call. The idea of hooking up with the firefighters sounds like an excellent idea. I wonder if you could send information to the stations just letting them know they have a resource for wildlife rehab and rescue....almost just stepping right over the DOW. Since they apparently are not "right".
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Jun 30 2012
03:39:04 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
I would be tempted to almost make flyers and have people distribute it to the front of neighborhoods, etc. Grass roots...but a guaranteed audience would see it. Maybe even take the fliers to the Red Cross stations and hand them out. Those people will head home and remember, I hope. Assuming they have a home. : (
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Jun 30 2012
04:56:04 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
I am with DB. You know, can't the media release a statement to people who have been able to return to their homes to call Wildlife rescuers such as yourself if they see an injured animal? Not to touch them of course because said animals could be hurt badly and hurt someone. Are you guys allowed to go back to the areas where the fires were and are no longer burning to check for animals? Hopefully some have survived and moved back to their old stomping grounds. Now that their stomping grounds are no longer there, they need rescuing. Just a thought.
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Jun 30 2012
06:27:51 PM
Catman Goose Catcher GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit Catman's Photo Album CO, USA 2670 Posts
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Originally posted by DoubleBogey

That's messed up Scott. All of it. Do you bump elbows with DOW often or have contacts with them?



Bump elbows or bump heads? I do have contact with them every now and then, but I try to avoid them. I only call them when something needs to be dispatched and is to large to transport safety(adult deer,bear,mountain lion or elk)or if someone has direct contact with a rabies rector species.I do attend some of their volunteer meetings and I use to train potential volunteers on how to capture and transport wildlife at the DOW meetings. It's a LONG story but I have been "stepping right over the DOW" for a long time and I have been told that I am on their "red flag" list because I rescue skunks.

The Colorado Division of Wildlife is not here to provide a service to tree huggers or the general public, but to manage wildlife populations for hunters.
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Jun 30 2012
08:30:10 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
(I have been told that I am on their "red flag" list because I rescue skunks.)And here I thought skunks were animals. Hmm imagine that.
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Originally posted by DoubleBogey

That's messed up Scott. All of it. Do you bump elbows with DOW often or have contacts with them?



Bump elbows or bump heads? I do have contact with them every now and then, but I try to avoid them. I only call them when something needs to be dispatched and is to large to transport safety(adult deer,bear,mountain lion or elk)or if someone has direct contact with a rabies rector species.I do attend some of their volunteer meetings and I use to train potential volunteers on how to capture and transport wildlife at the DOW meetings. It's a LONG story but I have been "stepping right over the DOW" for a long time and I have been told that I am on their "red flag" list because I rescue skunks.

The Colorado Division of Wildlife is not here to provide a service to tree huggers or the general public, but to manage wildlife populations for hunters.

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Jun 30 2012
09:37:36 PM
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this is crazy but hey here is a thought why wont we all get together in see if we can help them.I know its a long shot but some of tho's animals might be long to someone and not only that but they to have a heart.Everyday you see a helpless animal in you cant just pass it by like nothing.We are their voice and the protecters god made all loving things in he wouldnt want this for anyone or thing. We as people have the right to protect our home and with that we stand tall we come together as a team to help tho's in need rather is human or animal cause we are all part of life.I know that we are not suppose to do anything but watch and thats not good enough in yes it risky to do in we could end up behind bars for it but why should they pay the price they bleed and hurt just like us.Wouldnt we want someone to help us or just watch as we fall.Sorry but some people have no heart.I read a story of a young boy who went up a 60ft tree to save a womens cat while the aspca and fire fighters did nothing and that took a lot of cuts for him to do but he said the cat been up there for five days and he wasnt gonna let it die there as people walked below in heard it crys.so if he could stand up for that cat then cant we all stand together in help tho's in need let us be the voice for the one who cant speak.
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Jun 30 2012
10:04:32 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
Are you familiar with or a part of this organization? They have a plea for donations on the link below

http://www.wildforever.org/
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Jun 30 2012
10:39:44 PM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
I don't like donating to organizations mainly because they always get a percentage even if it is small. I'd love to donate and have 100% go to the cause.
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Are you familiar with or a part of this organization? They have a plea for donations on the link below

http://www.wildforever.org/

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Jun 30 2012
11:09:17 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
It's somewhat uncommon to see "legal" organizations that can TRULY donate 100% of donations to a cause unless they have some other source of income for staff, operating expenses, and overall the costs to be able to run an organization. It would take a very well self funded organization that literally took no percentage of donations to assist the organization. Perhaps a business that is incubated by another business?

Remember after 9/11 the trouble the Red Cross got into for not specifying that the donations they were taking were going to OVERALL Red Cross efforts/org and not just for 9/11? It was a mess! But basically, an organization that can legally receive donations is able to allot a percentage for funding their organization and efforts.

Just saying, it will take some work to vet out your preference before donating.
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Jun 30 2012
11:11:16 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
Kylah - are things settling down your way? I was curious to know if the containment was better today and I can't seem to find the most recent update. Perhaps tomorrow they will have one. I was really surprised that I had not heard more about the CA, Montana, AZ, UT, ID fires also. They were heavily under publicized...in my reading for this...I found out a lot of details there. It's sad.
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Jun 30 2012
11:12:59 PM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
Scott is/was a transporter for Wild Forever. Is that what you were asking, Kim?

FYI...45% containment!!! :D
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Jun 30 2012
11:45:05 PM
DoubleBogey Fuzzy Wuzzy Visit DoubleBogey's Photo Album USA 1244 Posts
Yep, I wasn't sure if he was affiliated with them or not. They look like they are getting ready for the effort. I was going to suggest he talk to them to band together for the wildlife piece...but it would appear he is ahead of me! LOL!

45% containment is STUPENDOUS!!! I think the original DOC was 7/15 right? If they are going up by 10-15% a day, they are tracking well! Bless them.
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Jul 01 2012
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kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
I still see smoke/flare ups day and night from where I am so in the grand scheme of things, it's still fairly close and our guard is not down by any means...and then they just said tomorrow's weather may pose a challenge to the fire lines. I hope that is just a general statement, not a warning.
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Jul 01 2012
12:19:56 AM
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Are you familiar with or a part of this organization? They have a plea for donations on the link below

http://www.wildforever.org/



Yep, I have been a volunteer for them since the late 90's. They are down to 2 rehabbers, one has stage 4 lung cancer the other one was diagnosed with Bird fancier's lung/pigeon-breeder's lung last year.Without wildlife rehabbers, they can't operate as a non-profit wildlife rescue. It takes about 3 years to become a licensed wildlife rehabber and they have to be trained by someone with a license(no ones being trained). We have other wildlife rescue organizations scattered all over Colorado that I help when I can.
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Jul 02 2012
01:48:11 AM
kyro298 Glider Sprinkles GliderMap Gliderpedia Editor Visit kyro298's Photo Album kyro298's Journal CO, USA 15262 Posts
For anyone still wanting updates, we are at 55% containment! Hard day for those that lost their homes that were finally let back in to see them for the first time. I personally know two families that lost homes. My kids each know families as well. Emotional day all the way around. It's strange to finally see a few lights on over in that neighborhood finally. Only about 3,000 people still displaced and on mandatory evacuation and that's mostly because of utility and gas issues at this point. Considering there were over 30,000 of us almost a week ago, that's pretty great progress. So proud of and thankful for these guys working around the clock.

I'm emotionally drained after this week and am ready for a new week to begin. There's been SO much going on.

I know this isn't over but the progress is at least optimistic now. People like me will be able to start to sleep easier at night and not lay awake petrified every time the wind blows and run to the window to make sure there aren't flames out there 10 times per night, but feel intense heartache for those that will not. It's a very confusing state of mind to be in when you're so happy to have your home but feel guilty and sad for so many of those that suddenly don't...and you can see their neighborhood out of your window. I also never imagined the sound of wind could make my hair stand on end. Ever.

One of the people I know raised their family in that home and their kids are now grown and gone. That is where their children grew up and every memory was made. He was doing upgrades around the house and was looking forward to having grandkids make memories there as well. I have not been able to reach them and found out about their house the same way everyone else did...on the news or in aerial photos. Even worse, the original list of destroyed homes was published and theirs wasn't on it yet. I can't imagine the roller coaster of emotions thinking your house is gone, then it isn't, then it really is.

ANYWAY, didn't mean to turn this into a journal entry. Just started "typing out loud", if you know what I mean.

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Jul 02 2012
08:50:53 AM
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55% containment is a HUGE step in the right direction! I can't believe how much that number climbs every day. I know it HAS to be quite an unsettling feeling for anyone back in their homes until it's at 100% containment.

I think I said this on your FB page - but there is no insurance policy that can replace those memories for people that have lost their homes. It's a horrible thought and an even worse emotional time for them. I can't even imagine losing everything. There is no way to quantify all of that. I am just devastated for them. Have there been any programs or support channels set up for them?

It's an odd thought but until you are in their shoes, it is hard to comprehend EVERYTHING they had in their house. The small things you wouldn't think of like bath towels, all the clothes they had, all the way to the paper towel dispenser or wine rack or even food that was in the fridge or pantry - in my house that could be upwards of $2000 (4 boys...we stock). My gosh, there is just no way to remember or quantify all of that for insurance....is there? I imagine no matter what...this will be a huge financial set back for many of them. I wouldn't think to put things like...the upgrades I put to cabinetry or a purse that I shelled out $300 for. Even in a new house...things like the toilet paper dispensers and towel racks that they bought in the past. It just wouldn't be on my mind right now and I feel like they are going to lose EVEN more in the end. Not that this is about money - but it does have a place as it IS important.

On a positive note, an associate of mine had her son out there in Manitou. I think I posted about him evacuating and his cat getting out. The cat was gone for 4 days. The guy went back to get him - and there was a black bear standing in his yard. He looked for this cat for 4 days. The excellent news is that his house was spared AND he found the cat yesterday - covered in sap with raw feet. BUT he is okay and back home. It is a huge weight lifted for him. All he would talk about was his cat and his Eagle Scout awards and memories that were in the house. His mom was mortified that his baby blanket from almost 30 years ago was burned. They are lucky.

Thank you for the updates - please keep them coming. I know it's settled down some because we feel like the risk is lessened. But the impact is still there and is not going away any time soon.

Sending more HUGS to CO and to you Kylah. I know this has been an awful time for you and your family. I am just elated for your children though. I can't imagine how good it felt for them to see their bedrooms and all of their stuff again! What an awful rollercoaster.
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Jul 02 2012
08:59:57 AM
Omis n Kais g-ma Pouch Protector Visit Omis n Kais g-ma's Photo Album TX, USA 7524 Posts
Kylah, it's not hard to get distracted and pulled into others pain. 55% is awesome. Someday you guys will look back and say remember the Waldo Canyon fire? And you'll say...don't remind me. I'm not surprised this is affecting you like it is. It's really hard to see what you are seeing. You may wind up with PTSD from this. We are here for you girl so journal away.
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For anyone still wanting updates, we are at 55% containment! Hard day for those that lost their homes that were finally let back in to see them for the first time. I personally know two families that lost homes. My kids each know families as well. Emotional day all the way around. It's strange to finally see a few lights on over in that neighborhood finally. Only about 3,000 people still displaced and on mandatory evacuation and that's mostly because of utility and gas issues at this point. Considering there were over 30,000 of us almost a week ago, that's pretty great progress. So proud of and thankful for these guys working around the clock.

I'm emotionally drained after this week and am ready for a new week to begin. There's been SO much going on.

I know this isn't over but the progress is at least optimistic now. People like me will be able to start to sleep easier at night and not lay awake petrified every time the wind blows and run to the window to make sure there aren't flames out there 10 times per night, but feel intense heartache for those that will not. It's a very confusing state of mind to be in when you're so happy to have your home but feel guilty and sad for so many of those that suddenly don't...and you can see their neighborhood out of your window. I also never imagined the sound of wind could make my hair stand on end. Ever.

One of the people I know raised their family in that home and their kids are now grown and gone. That is where their children grew up and every memory was made. He was doing upgrades around the house and was looking forward to having grandkids make memories there as well. I have not been able to reach them and found out about their house the same way everyone else did...on the news or in aerial photos. Even worse, the original list of destroyed homes was published and theirs wasn't on it yet. I can't imagine the roller coaster of emotions thinking your house is gone, then it isn't, then it really is.

ANYWAY, didn't mean to turn this into a journal entry. Just started "typing out loud", if you know what I mean.



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Jul 02 2012
01:05:01 PM
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I have only one thing to add that you all haven't already touched on.

How on earth is it that the elderly couple DID NOT get out of their home? It has been the topic of discussion with everyone I've spoken to the past few days. It is unfathomable that these folks were in that house.

I do have one Glider-related thing to share that might lighten our emotions
My 13 1/2 week oop girl has decided she likes sleeping down my shirt,
so I really MUST read the forum and find out how you all deal with this.
Pouch? Extra bra? Special clothing?
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